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"Doing more exercise with less intensity,"
Arthur Jones believes, "has all but
destroyed the actual great value
of weight training. Something
must be done . . . and quickly."
The New Bodybuilding for
Old-School Results supplies
MUCH of that "something."

 

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hit4all

Sweden

And the price to be poster number 200 is to ask one question: When will the book be able to buy?

LOL! Don't reply, just enjoy the waiting for something good!
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MurrDawg

Pennsylvania, USA

Since Monday I must have checked this page a few hundred times.....

Anybody have any idea when it's going to be ready? Any info whatsoever?
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Paul25

MurrDawg wrote:
Since Monday I must have checked this page a few hundred times.....

Anybody have any idea when it's going to be ready? Any info whatsoever?



Me too and it would be nice to have a rough idea of when it will be ready to order as the 17th has gone.
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NZbro

I've been watching this thread with interest and really enjoying all the old stories that you guys are relating to training back in the early days with Nautilus in the 70's. In New Zealand here there are very few people (if any) that even know who Arthur Jones & Ell D are.

In the gyms that I have freqented here (and there have been quite a few!!) I've never personally seen anyone else train with a the low volume/infreqent approach. It all seems far to diffuclt in this day and age to push yourself.....IMO people is too soft these days....I guess it's a fact that that people the world over are getting lazier and want the easy road to everything.

If only I had a time machine........
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PHS

Lesson has seemingly been learned - it is better to not set any dates than set dates that may not be met.

All we have had are the latter with this project, so we are all better off waiting in the dark until orders can be taken.
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Tom Traynor

I'm content hearing insightful commentary from Dr. Ken and Kim Wood until the book comes--also enjoy hearing from David Landau....the stories and wisdom are priceless.....

Drew Baye: I hear you are working to schedule in Liz Galeski (my training business associate) for a workout while she is down in Orlando. Bring your video camera (seriously)--it's almost unbelievable....form+function deluxe.
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Drew Baye

Florida, USA

Tom Traynor wrote:

Drew Baye: I hear you are working to schedule in Liz Galeski (my training business associate) for a workout while she is down in Orlando. Bring your video camera (seriously)--it's almost unbelievable....form+function deluxe.


Hey Tom,

If she wants, we can film the workout for her and send it on DVD for a couple extra bucks (to cover the DVD and postage).
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QmAn

WHERE JONES WENT WRONG

Tim Patterson: Arthur Jones was wrong!

He was wrong in 1980 when he began encouraging bodybuilders to train less than three times per week.



This study:

http://www.asep.org/...c2004/Smith.pdf

Doc version:
http://www.asep.org/...c2004/Smith.doc

(which I know most of you have already seen) of peer reviewed scientific literature.

If there is no extra benefit (in terms of building muscle) to training 3x per week instead of 2x, which all the studies reviewed suggest then why train 3x per week as it is a waste of resources? I think Arthur was right and the evidence seems to back him up, 2x per week is best for most.

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shlevon

QmAn wrote:
WHERE JONES WENT WRONG

Tim Patterson: Arthur Jones was wrong!

He was wrong in 1980 when he began encouraging bodybuilders to train less than three times per week.



This study:

http://www.asep.org/...c2004/Smith.pdf

Doc version:
http://www.asep.org/...c2004/Smith.doc

(which I know most of you have already seen) of peer reviewed scientific literature.

If there is no extra benefit (in terms of building muscle) to training 3x per week instead of 2x, which all the studies reviewed suggest then why train 3x per week as it is a waste of resources? I think Arthur was right and the evidence seems to back him up, 2x per week is best for most.




Bear in mind that's not "train with weights twice a week," that's the frequency at which muscles are being exposed to resistance training.

So, while two days a week full body would qualify, so would 4 days a week with an upper/lower split or something.

Further, there ARE studies which show an advantage for 3 days a week, though in fairness, to the best of my knowledge, "most" of the benefit is had by going from once a week to twice a week.
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Paul25

QmAn wrote:
WHERE JONES WENT WRONG

Tim Patterson: Arthur Jones was wrong!

He was wrong in 1980 when he began encouraging bodybuilders to train less than three times per week.



This study:

http://www.asep.org/...c2004/Smith.pdf

Doc version:
http://www.asep.org/...c2004/Smith.doc

(which I know most of you have already seen) of peer reviewed scientific literature.

If there is no extra benefit (in terms of building muscle) to training 3x per week instead of 2x, which all the studies reviewed suggest then why train 3x per week as it is a waste of resources? I think Arthur was right and the evidence seems to back him up, 2x per week is best for most.



Hi, many thanks for that post Qman and just shows what a great man Authur Jones is and what he has done for Strength/Fitness industry, where would be without him and Darden?



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Paul25

Looks like the book is delayed for a long time by the look it??
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Ellington Darden

It's not the book, the book is ready to be shipped, it's the ordering process.

Ellington
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Paul25

Many thanks Ellington for updating us much appreacaited!
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Ellington Darden

Paul, we're all anxious, especially me.

As soon as the ordering process is solved, and totally secure, the book will be announced . . . and orders taken and shipped.

I'd like to say that this is just around the corner, like the first part of next week. But I've done that several times and I've had to eat my words.

Again, I'm very sorry about the delay.

Ellington
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MurrDawg

Pennsylvania, USA

No problem El..... we really appreciate the update. We all just cant wait to get our hands on your new book.
It's a testament to you and your books how impatient we are....

Thanks again...

-MD
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PHS

Why wasn't the book made available on Amazon.com and other traditional bookseller web sites? The problem would never have existed and orders would have shipped to customers by now.

I have previously acknowledged that the authors have every right to sell the book in whichever way they please. But is the only thing of importance here the sellers without respect for the buyers?

Most every book in the world is sold through Amazon.com and traditional booksellers, so why not this one? And wouldn't selling it through Amazon.com and traditional booksellers been better for customers?
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k38wood

Dr. Darden has the right to sell his books anyway he pleases...to set up
a "secure" situation for the inter-net
customer is the right thing to do and
doesn't happen overnight. PHS, your
anxiety is amusing...you might not be tough enough to train the high intensity way...
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Wolfie

k38wood wrote:
anxiety is amusing...


I wonder if a lot of these people think this book is going to contain THE SECRET to their muscle-building dreams.

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k38wood

ah, the search for the "missing piece"...in over 30 years of selling
machines I ran into all kinds of people. Believe it or not there were
men who couldn't train unless they had a whole line of Nautilus machines...
they had to have things "perfect"...
of course, I sold them machines but I
was really laughing at them underneath...

essential to the real meaning of
Arthur Jones and Nautilus was being
resourceful...the "will" to improve
and the intellegence to do it the right
way regardless of the situation
was key...

I'm sure Ell's new book is a dandy but the answer is inside "you"...not any book.
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CarlHudon

Ontario, CAN

Kim, you sure have it right- while I look forward to Dr. Darden's new book and search high and low for the best possible training conditions and equipment. The answer does truly lie within us.

I was reminded of this last year when for family reasons I was not able to train for several weeks. We were out of town for a family funeral and I was very busy taking care of many, many loose ends. There was a window of about an hour where I was alone (my wife had our young child).

So there I was in a hotel gym, nothing fancy for equipment, universal type multi station, chrome dumbbells to 35lbs, you get the picture and no gym attire. As I hadnt trained in several weeks and it looked like I wouldn't train for at least 1 more my workout was as Dorian Yates would say - balls to the walls. No doubt my most intense workout ever maybe 8 sets total.

So when I hear the if only my gym was open 24hrs, if only they had a pullover machine. The only "if onlys" should be if only I worked out as hard as I possibly could then rested and then when I felt recovered repeated the process - no secret there


Carl


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BloodandGuts

PHS wrote:
Why wasn't the book made available on Amazon.com and other traditional bookseller web sites? The problem would never have existed and orders would have shipped to customers by now.

I have previously acknowledged that the authors have every right to sell the book in whichever way they please. But is the only thing of importance here the sellers without respect for the buyers?

Most every book in the world is sold through Amazon.com and traditional booksellers, so why not this one? And wouldn't selling it through Amazon.com and traditional booksellers been better for customers?


You remind me of that spoiled little girl in "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory"! It would seem to me that you're just angry because you can't have what you want, when you want it, the way you want it.

you speak as if Dr. Darden "owes" YOU this book, and must make it available to YOU when YOU desire it and in the way YOU desire it, simply by virtue of the fact that he has the ability and experience to do so.

You keep speaking of respect for the "buyers", well, how about a little respect for the creator of the product you wish to buy?????

Dr. Darden is free to write, publish and sell his book in any manner he so chooses or is capable of. You are free to accept it or not. You are free to buy it or not. You are, obviously, free to complain about it or not (although to do so is childish). If you feel he is not showing proper "respect" for his customers then don't buy his book and don't recommend to others that they buy it either. It's that simple!

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Paul25

Good posts Kim and Carl.
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QmAn

Let's just hope there's enougth to go round!
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PHS

In answer to Kim, I have been training the high intensity way since the late 1970s when the first Nautilus health clubs came out, in large part because of the guidance received from Dr. Darden's books. I am not sure how tough that makes me. After all, I never played or coached in the National Football League.

But I do know that I am tough enough to ask the difficult questions that I am confident others are wondering about as well, knowing that some folks are going to take off after me.

I mean no disrespect to anyone, especially the authors. But the point that the customers of this book would have been better served by having it made available through traditional bookseller channels, regardless of the obvious rights of those authors to sell it in whichever way they would like, needed to be made. And, again, I am at least tough enough to make a controversial point and not back down from it.

I am also entitled as much to my opinion as the authors are to their rights to market the book however they choose, as long as I am being respectful (which I think I have been). We can respectfully agree to disagree, I hope, and still support the book, its authors, and the principles of HIT.
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markandspike

Dr. Darden. Could you please post one of your old routines before you started HIT. Also when you first started how many sets were you using.
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