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"Doing more exercise with less intensity,"
Arthur Jones believes, "has all but
destroyed the actual great value
of weight training. Something
must be done . . . and quickly."
The New Bodybuilding for
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MUCH of that "something."

 

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paulmanubay

New Hampshire, USA

Ellington Darden wrote:
Question for the old-school Nautilus buffs:

Who was Bill Bradford?

It would be interesting to get him to join our discussion.

Ellington


Dr. Darden,
Bill "Coach" Bradford was a strength coach at Deland High School in the early seventies. He is about 75 years old and has lots of early Nautilus/Arthur Jones stories. He still trains on Nautilus machines in his home gym.
Paul
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SB2006

Bill Bradford was the coach at Deland H.S. His H.S. weightlifting teams enjoyed a lot of success in Florida H.S. lifting competitions.
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Ellington Darden

Paul and SB are both correct. Coach Bradford has a small gym in his home, and from what I hear, he often talks with great enthusiasm about the old days. I believe he told me about two years ago that he still can bench press a 300-pound barbell.

Ellington

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Oreste

But in your book "the new high intensity training" you use a 3 day on 2 weeks program..
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josh_pitts

Ontario, CAN

Ellington Darden wrote:
Landau wrote:
El - Kim - Ken: Just received footage of Arthur briefly training with his shirt off at Jumbolair. Looks like a spin of 60 Minutes. Rare take. David

David,

I'd like to see the footage on your next visit to Orlando.

Ellington




Would it be possible for you to post the video somewhere on this site? id like to see it to.

josh
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cokerat

Does Bill Bradford train negative-only like he used to train the Deland H.S. weightlifting team with?
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Landau

Florida, USA

Arthur doing single arm bicep. Clarity not that good but you get the idea. Coach Bradford benches now about 265 and does traditional Nautilus Protocol, he may do negatives, but have not see him do so. David
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k38wood

Don't know if I really need to see
Arthur training at Jumbo-lair without
his shirt or not but I'll tell you this,
in the early years to witness Arthur
training was an awesome experience...
and a real chance to learn the essence
of his training ideas.

Talk about serious training...every rep, every part of every rep was all- out.

Arthur defined "intensity" as "percentage of momentary ability" and his training gave life to these ideas...he not only talked the talk, the mofo walked the walk. When he trained the temperatue in the room went up...things were happening...everybody stood back.

Everyone got very cautious...like you'd be when
a big German shepherd was eating. His focus was almost scary.

One time I saw some guy go up to him when he was grinding out a hard set on the pullover...the guy barked "three more reps"at Arthur...

In a flash Arthur was off the machine and in the guy's face.

"Don't you ever talk to me when I'm training...I work as hard as humanly possible...I don't need YOUR help." (the poor guy almost peed in his pants!)

When Arthur trained all the ideas and theories came home...he knew how to get the most out of his training...he knew how to get the most
out of his body.

And guys, isn't that the real meaning of "high intensity training"?
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Ellington Darden

Kim,

That's great insight into the training intensity of the real Arthur Jones.

I've mentioned something similar, several times, but you have captured what I remember better, much BETTER, than I ever have.

Thanks for painting a meaningful picture.

Ellington
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hdlifter

Ellington Darden wrote:
hdlifter wrote:
Ellington... I have been keen about this book since earlier this year. When will it finally be released???

Look for a specific announcement to be posted on Friday, September 29th.

Ellington


Errr, it is Friday, September 29th... did I miss something???
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henry_bordeaux

Mr. Landau,


could you give us some more insight into the AJ training feature (length and content) will it be available on dvd from you?


best regards,


henry

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Drew Baye

Florida, USA

hdlifter wrote:
Errr, it is Friday, September 29th... did I miss something???


Come on man, it's not even 7:00 am. Have a little patience :)
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JimBryan

Florida, USA

Arthur usually wore long sleeved dress shirts but once in the gym he took off his shirt and did a short workout/demo for me in his undershirt. I don't recall his age but he outdid me in weight used and I considered myself strong at the time. He had a set of arms that most would be proud of.

Most of the time when I was put through a workout I only recall the start and the finish. By then I was laying outside in the grass trying to recover.

I remember once Casey was outside doing sprints and came up to me while I was trying to get up and was laughing at my attempts to stand up. And reminding me I had a 2 hour trip home. Never threw up but many times I thought I was going to.

Everyone from Body Builders to Football Players, to MD's, to "Names" in the strength world came to Lake Helen and Deland.

I remember having "Adrenal Burgers" on the way up to Deland and being proud I did it on the way back. Arthur always made me feel at home. I doubt anything like this will ever happen again.

Arthur and a small handful of people made an enormous contribution. That handful would include. Kim Wood, El Darden, Jim Flanagan, Dr. Ken. It was an honor to have been around and learn and laugh. Yes, we had plenty of laughs too. Arthur was always "On" while I was around.He could be funny as hell.

Hard to believe it was so long ago.
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hdlifter

Drew Baye wrote:
hdlifter wrote:
Errr, it is Friday, September 29th... did I miss something???

Come on man, it's not even 7:00 am. Have a little patience :)


Not here in Australia, it was 7pm when I wrote that. Hehehe

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Ellington Darden

Jim,

Did you ever see any of those guys, who got so spooked by Arthur and his training techniques, that they would throw up BEFORE their workouts?

I remember a couple of them . . . hard workers they were, once they actually got into the training . . . but they had never experienced anything like Jones. And the anticipation of being "trained by Arthur," was very, very stressful.

But later, if they worked as hard as they possible could, Arthur would roll out the bond of HIT friendship.

It was a really neat to see the team building -- and listen to those amazing AJ stories -- that occurred AFTER the workouts.

Ellington
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robtom

Ell and Kim-as the two of you know more than anyone else, Arthur could be absolutely brutal with people. Few stand up comics could cut someone to pieces verbally as quickly and thoroughly as Arthur could if he wanted to. Some people he just didn't like from the outset and he would bait them or just berate them in part I think, to see how much abuse they were willing to put up with.

Often as you know, it was a test to see what the response would be. If he trained you or if Ell, Jim Flanigan, or I trained them, Arthur would watch to get a sense of what they were about and as was noted, passing muster sort of got you into his very limited "club" where he at least accepted you as someone who would make an attempt to train hard.

If you couldn't get that far, you weren't getting anywhere with him and there is no doubt, as Jim B. pointed out, that we had a group that knew we were "different", doing something different, and it in some way made us "better" in that we were willing to try and/or do what others wouldn't and do so on a regular basis.

The fact that the entire group, and I'll include myself in the group though at the bottom of the barrel, with Ell, Kim, Laputka, Jim Flanigan, Jim Bryant, Casey, guys who were at the hut or factory gym who regularly got toasted, wound up either like Casey or Ell, being built better than most anyone who strolled in when you examined the quality of muscle, or who were super strong like Kim and Tom and Flanigan and I mean stronger in not only barbell "stuff" but in moving equipment, working physically hard all day and things like that, could all be the way they were made the entire experience successful, unusual, and certainly unlike anything going on at the time.
Dr. Ken
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k38wood

Many times when Arthur first met someone he'd look right at them and ask the question "who are you"...

Now, Arthur's eyes are a little "off" (they aren't perfectly "lined up") and his eye-balls have red bumps on 'em...he told me that was from trying to photograph a giraffe at top speed with him leaning out of the truck holding the camera while the giraffe kicked-up mud clods into his face, but they still had a "lazor-beam" effect on most people...

Few people could stand-up to that gaze and tell him who they really were ("not who you say you are...but who you really are...")...and some people came apart big time when facing that question (and those eye-balls)...

I witnessed him ripping on people...but my feeling was that rarely did he go after someone who didn't deserve it. The man was an awesome teacher...and he was always ready to test you.

Of course, so is life.

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JimBryan

Florida, USA

Ell,
I don't recall anyone getting sick before a workout but I do remember an incident at the office. Kim, Arthur, liza, my girlfriend (now wife) were all sitting around and talking. Two guys came in and stood near the door. These were big guys. One was visably shaking and when Arthur asked "can I help you?" The 300 pounder spoke up but had almost lost his voice. They were there to workout and Arthur had known they were coming.

Arthur told the biggest one "I can see your going to have to lose about 50 pounds of pure fat!" Then Arthur told them to go check in at the hotel and that he'd see them later. I could tell they were both glad to be leaving. They were Players from the Phil. Eagles I believe.

Then there was the story about this "Mature" Bodybuilder that was convinced that Arthur could get his career back on track. The Guy (K.K.) Rented an apartment or condo or house (don't remember) Anyway Arthur called me to say that he never showed up for training (the first visit) and that the land lord thought that someone had died in the condo.

Turns out the "mature" Bodybuilder had fully stocked the refridge and took off. After a while everything started to rot and they thought he was dead. Turns out it was just rotten food. He did come back later with his Wife and Daughter.

You could always tell when Arthur was sizing someone up. Then he'd get that look like "watch this" Kim and I would look at eachother wth a "here it comes look." And Arthur would launch into one of the standard "educational opportunities" like I got from him in York, Pa.
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Cherry

When I first met Arthur he took one look at me and said "When was the last time you worked out... or DO YOU? (he emphasized "DO YOU" ;)

I cheerfully replied "Oh yea I've been working out for years!"

Looking straight thru me, he said "Now that you've failed at bodybuilding what else do you plan on failing at?"


I didn't bother answering, i had gotten the point ;)
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Ellington Darden

Cherry wrote:
When I first met Arthur he took one look at me and said "When was the last time you worked out... or DO YOU? (he emphasized "DO YOU" ;)

I cheerfully replied "Oh yea I've been working out for years!"

Looking straight thru me, he said "Now that you've failed at bodybuilding what else do you plan on failing at?"


I didn't bother answering, i had gotten the point ;)


Cherry, that sounds EXACTLY like Jones.

Ellington

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Paul25

Hi, sorry to be inpatient but any more updates on ordering the New book?
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Ellington Darden

Paul,

An updated announcement is expected before 7 PM (EDT) today. There are also other additions to the Web site . . . all of which require time.

Stay tuned.


Ellington
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Tom71

The Jones descriptions/stories on this thread are interesting, to say the least.

I wonder what would've happened if he went into psychology? It sure sounds like he knew how to break down mental barriers.

Actually, in his own way, maybe he was in psychology.

Tom
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Ellington Darden

Tom71 wrote:
The Jones descriptions/stories on this thread are interesting, to say the least.

I wonder what would've happened if he went into psychology? It sure sounds like he knew how to break down mental barriers.

Actually, in his own way, maybe he was in psychology.

Tom


In his early teenage years, I believe Jones wanted to go to medical school and specialize in psychology. He certainly read a lot in that area.

Ellington

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dr ken

Ell's friend Jerry who worked in the print shop at least for part of the time I was down there, would get sick before workouts because he was so hyped up. Arthur asked me to speak with him and try to calm in down. "He'll do better if he doesn't wear himself out puking before he trains" was what Arthur told me.

Jerry was well built and as a friend of Ell's (geez Ell, didn't he work in the print shop as a graphic artist or something or am I truly losing it?) and an employee, he obviously had it going for him but he told me he just came apart when he had to deal with Arthur, especially on the training floor.

Relative to some of the put-downs Arthur was so well-known for, I worked at Nick Orlando's showroom/gym but was actually working for Arthur and doing various other things while in NY for him. Kim can tell everyone why I was fired that time!! I went back to school and began my professional career as a Chiropractor and very quickly had a successful office in Manhattan when my wife and I traveled to Lake Helen at Arthur's insistence to see the burgeoning movie and tv studio.

He made it a point to get me in front of quite a few people and already knowing the answer, in a very loud voice asked, "So Ken, what the hell are you doing for a living these days?" I walked right into the trap and confidently answered, "I'm in Manhattan, practicing as a Chiropractor" and Arthur bellowed as he took a sip of coffee he held in one hand and took a drag on his unfiltered cigarette that was in the other, "Well when the hell do you stop practicing and get competent enough to actually treat someone and do some good?"
Dr. Ken
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