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"Doing more exercise with less intensity,"
Arthur Jones believes, "has all but
destroyed the actual great value
of weight training. Something
must be done . . . and quickly."
The New Bodybuilding for
Old-School Results supplies
MUCH of that "something."

 

This is one of 93 photos of Andy McCutcheon that are used in The New High-Intensity Training to illustrate the recommended exercises.

To find out more about McCutcheon and his training, click here.

 

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hamby

hello, about new bodybuilding for old school results. when will this book be available to buy?
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Paul25

Ellington Darden wrote:
chrisgale83 wrote:
Dr. Darden,
I am in the Army and deploying very soon. I was just wondering when to expect your new book because I have to warn the wife so she can buy it and send it to me as soon as it comes out.
Thanks,
Chris

Right now, the books are in transit to the warehouse in Colorado Springs. They should arrive Monday or Tuesday, October 16th or 17th. As soon as they are unpacked, an announcement will be made on this Web site . . . with instructions on "how to order."

Ellington



Hi, look at the post above from Ellington so hopefully we will know how to order more over the weekend.

Paul

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shlevon

henry_bordeaux wrote:
shlevon wrote:
Cherry wrote:
john38 wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
I don't know how you guys can do 8-12 exercises (via total body) to absolute, total positive failure. I can only *really* do it for 4-5 exercises. Usually after a few sets of leg exercises, I am finished.

I think Mentzer had the right idea here (but eventually took it way too far). I think the Heavy Duty I routine is more practical for many.

Agreed! I can usually get seven-9 in Jones' original HIT routines(circuit style).


We used to do 12-15 moving as quickly or quicker than Drew in his video. ALL were set-up in advance and several machines involved pre-exhaustion of the large muscle groups without ever leaving the seat! We feared the workouts and we'd finish in ~20 mins lying on floor in a pool of sweat and tears at the foot of that last machine. Alas those are the long-lost good ol days of rational training... :(

I have to ask...

What did you even get out of that training?

I ask because I've seen others report the above with no mention of actual progress over time, in terms lifting more weight and/or, you know, actually adding muscle.

It's like some people rejoice in the ability to lay themselves out cold without giving thought to why they're trying to do it in the first place.

Not saying this applies to you, but you've also ducked (to the best of my knowledge) any attempts to assess your personal progress with HIT, muscular or otherwise.





Starting from scratch with 4 junior rowers (16-18) we trained them in exactly that way. No Rest between exercises, 8-12 exercises per session, 2xper week. all on nautilus 1st & 2nd generation equipment.

they were in very good cardiovascular condition at the start, so there was no break-in training needed, except to get their form right on every machine. those guys want it. they throw up sometimes afterwards, and yes, they fear the workouts.

but, during the first control test, which is done on a rowing-ergometer, they all got personal bests, and were much more improved than the control group, which continues to train in a conventional way.

the Hit group did no rowing before the control test, except skill work.
the typical rowing race lasts between 6-10 minutes for 2km.

the harder you train, the more you get out of it (all other factors equal). and if someone denies that, he's just searching for an easier way, which is only human...







Depends what you mean by "hard" training, though. There's many ways to train hard that don't involve constantly training to failure.
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spud

shlevon wrote:
Depends what you mean by "hard" training, though. There's many ways to train hard that don't involve constantly training to failure.


Please tell us of these many ways to train hard that don't involve constantly training to failure.

Do you mean incorporating NTF workouts, or only working 50% of your sets to failure?
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shlevon

spud wrote:
shlevon wrote:
Depends what you mean by "hard" training, though. There's many ways to train hard that don't involve constantly training to failure.

Please tell us of these many ways to train hard that don't involve constantly training to failure.

Do you mean incorporating NTF workouts, or only working 50% of your sets to failure?


I don't know, why don't you go watch a session at Westside Barbell or one of the olympic programs (domestic or foreign) and tell them, since most of their sets aren't to failure, that they aren't working hard. I'm sure they'll appreciate that :P
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Drew Baye

Florida, USA

shlevon wrote:

I don't know, why don't you go watch a session at Westside Barbell or one of the olympic programs (domestic or foreign) and tell them, since most of their sets aren't to failure, that they aren't working hard. I'm sure they'll appreciate that :P


While they may be working hard, if they're not training to failure then by definition they're not working as hard as possible.

However, training to failure isn't an absolute necessity for progress. It just helps.
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Paul25

Any updates on the books arrival?
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PHS

The one thing that seems very problematic in all of this is selling Dr. Darden's new book exclusively on his own web site and T-Nation, which certainly is his divine right, rather than on conventional sites like Amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com that are already set up to sell books.

When books are sold on the conventional web sites you can obviously place orders far in advance of publication and availability for the titles you are interested in purchasing and then not worry about it, which is what I think almost all of us were hoping to be able to do.

Selling the book through traditional online retail outlets would have eliminated a lot of angst and anxiety for customers of the book, which have still not been alleviated as of this writing. But I recognize that there is undoubtedly more profit to be had marketing the book in this exclusive fashion, which the authors have every right to do.

I am sure the quality of and information in the book will make up for the frustration many have felt while waiting for it to arrive. And we are all very glad to have access to it. But I have to wonder if marketing the book in a more traditional fashion would have been a better way to go, everything considered?

Clearly from a selfish point of view it would have been a lot easier for me as a customer to order the book from Amazon.com weeks and months ago and then just wait for the publishing process to run its course. But this way customers are having to wait on both - being able to order and the publishing process - right up to the point of availability, which is frustrating if for no other reason than we are not used to that when buying books normally.

Finally, I would also feel a lot more secure ordering the book over a traditional site like Amazon.com where I have previously purchased with confidence than over a site that has struggled so much to reconfigure in order to accept such orders.

The book will be a blessing to have, but its customers should also be taken care of during the ordering phase.
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Drew Baye

Florida, USA

Paul25 wrote:
Any updates on the books arrival?


This last weekend I had lunch with Ellington, Jim Flanagan, Joe Mullen and David Landau, and Ellington gave me a copy of the book. It's phenomenal.

The book has a lot of great stories and training advice, and some great photos as well. It manages to be both highly entertaining and informative and I found it very hard to put down. I also liked that it had a lot of useful information for athletes as well as bodybuilders.

Ell mentioned the book was due to arrive in Colorado Springs today or tomorrow (Monday or Tuesday) so hopefully they'll have the web site set up to take orders soon.
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Ellington Darden

Thanks, Drew.

On page 274 of The New Bodybuilding for Old-School Results, I noted that in 1992 I observed Gary Reinal demonstrate super finger/forearm strength. Gary did three chinups with only the middle finger of both hands wrapped around an overhead bar.

Last weekend, at Jim Flanagan's gym in Orlando, Drew Baye tried to duplicate Reinal's achievement. Well, he failed. He did only 2 full repetitions . . . which is quite an accomplishment in itself.

Other than the training video that Drew posted here last month, I've never seen him exercise. But after his finger-strength feat, I gained a little more respect for his usual on-target advice.

Ellington
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Joe Mullen

Florida, USA

Ellington Darden's new book is the greatest offering, and most in-depth explanation, of the true principles and endless possibilities of High Intensity Training ever written.

Arthur Jones, and the HIT true believers will be proud of this book.

Ellington re-ignites the heart, soul, and genius of the great Arthur Jones, and pays homage to some of those who recognized it from the beginning.

This book is truly "The Bible for True Believers" and the power of its contents, will return sanity to the field of HIT exercise and total conditioning.

Congratulations, Dr. Darden on a job well done!

Joe Mullen


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Paul25

Hi, sorry to sound inpatient but any idea of when the book will be avaliable to order?

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PHS

I would respectfully suggest that with so many potential customers losing patience as deadline after deadline is moved, it does not help the situation for insiders who have been given copies of the new book to tell us how good it is.

We expect that.

What we want is an opportunity sooner rather than later to obtain our own copies. And any information provided other than that is just flat out annoying.
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shlevon

PHS wrote:
I would respectfully suggest that with so many potential customers losing patience as deadline after deadline is moved, it does not help the situation for insiders who have been given copies of the new book to tell us how good it is.

We expect that.

What we want is an opportunity sooner rather than later to obtain our own copies. And any information provided other than that is just flat out annoying.


Stop acting like an anxious little school girl.

Disclaimer: if you are, in fact, an anxious little school girl, then my apologies.
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PHS

Sorry, but I have admittedly lost patience with so many dates for things to be done and completed in this regard offered and then none of them met. And I say this as someone who has defended the difficult process of getting this book published until now and owns all of Dr. Darden's previous books.

But I am a "do what you say you are going to do" kind of person. And this is just no way to market a book.

I only hope that the marketing of future Dr. Darden books will benefit from this experience.
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hdlifter

I'm with PHS. Having waited about a year for its release, and two friends who write me daily about yet another delay, makes for frustration. I have my credit card ready, have had for some time, but each time I check this site it seems I am left wanting, unsure when the time will happen!?

With so few, if any bodybuilding books worth buying nowadays, unlike times of old when there was a wide variety, this is a cherished addition to my vast library. Yet I feel I am no closer to getting hold of my own copy that a year ago when I went through a variety of book stores, one promising, even then, to get a copy for me.

Now if that makes me an "anxious little school girl" then so be it! But a year... PULEEEEEZE!!!
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Drew Baye

Florida, USA

Guys, when you get it, you'll understand why it took this long to write. Word for word, there is more content in this book than in any of Dr. Darden's dozens of other books, and possibly more than any other two combined. There is a LOT in there. They also really did an incredible job laying it out. It's one of the best looking bodybuilding books I've seen.
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hdlifter

Thanks Drew, my post wasn't aimed at you. But I can relate to others who are feeling the "we are missing out" bug, and are biding their time patiently waiting to see what all the fuss is about!
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kevindill

Maryland, USA

Honestly guys,

For a project of this size, complexity, requirements, and number of different groups involved in getting the book published and then getting the website updates and functionality done, I would have been more surprised if it had been delivered on time. Relax, it will get here when it gets here.

Regards,
Kevin
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SteveHIT

can you get the book in the uk? how much with p&p?
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ics1974

Hi Dr. Darden,

Just curious what the price is for the new book. I would be buying it from Canada.

Thanks

ICS
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markandspike

I feel let down by the delays. Why didn't you just release this book using amazon or as an e-book. Living in england will i be able to purchase the book too.
Mark
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QmAn

Drew Baye wrote:
Guys, when you get it, you'll understand why it took this long to write. Word for word, there is more content in this book than in any of Dr. Darden's dozens of other books, and possibly more than any other two combined. There is a LOT in there. They also really did an incredible job laying it out. It's one of the best looking bodybuilding books I've seen.


Drew, why not post a detailed review of the new book on your website.
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Paul25

any news or update on when we will be able to purchase the book?
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Drew Baye

Florida, USA

QmAn wrote:
Drew, why not post a detailed review of the new book on your website.


I will eventually. Right now I'm so tied up with writing projects for our training facility and other responsibilities at work and home that I have little time to do much with my web site.
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