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Turpin wrote:
Training still going well and coming to the end of another 12 week training block . This week I conclude with 620lbs + on the trap bar and then look to prepare for the `British drug free powerlifting assoc`. qualifiers ( single lift comp / deadlift )later this year.

My diet has ( as ever ) been consistently high fat / low carbs and TBH I have become very strict on my carb count as the weeks have progressed and as a consequence my training focus ( & condition ) has improved no-end . It always amazes me how things all come together mentally and physically when in the weeks leading to personal best efforts one is completely focussed.

T.


620?!!!!! You f'in animal Turpin!!!

Good luck!
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Frank Scott

If that is for the open deadlift you are expecting to get a 400lb lift to qualify?
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HeavyHitter32

Great job!
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Turpin

Frank Scott wrote:
If that is for the open deadlift you are expecting to get a 400lb lift to qualify?


TBH Frank I left the sport lifting 620lbs and I wouldn't compete again lifting much less ( what would be the point ) even though I am much older.
Despite qualification I would be competing against MY best efforts with an eye on the masters record.

T.

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Turpin wrote:
Frank Scott wrote:
If that is for the open deadlift you are expecting to get a 400lb lift to qualify?

TBH Frank I left the sport lifting 620lbs and I wouldn't compete again lifting much less ( what would be the point ) even though I am much older.
Despite qualification I would be competing against MY best efforts with an eye on the masters record.

T.


Awesome work T!. You're an inspiration!.


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Spidercam

Turpin wrote:
05/01/16

12 week training cycle concluded with a trap bar deadlift @ 605 lbs x 3 reps at 160lb bodyweight.

https://www.youtube.com/...h?v=65PefOmv_r4

T.


A true gutsy effort, well done.
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Turpin

Spidercam wrote:
Turpin wrote:
05/01/16

12 week training cycle concluded with a trap bar deadlift @ 605 lbs x 3 reps at 160lb bodyweight.

https://www.youtube.com/...h?v=65PefOmv_r4

T.

A true gutsy effort, well done.


Thank you guys . The above effort was the conclusion of my last training cycle ( popped my ear drums on the last rep ) . Tonight I conclude with 20lbs heavier again .... I`ll post something up when complete .

Cheers T.

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Ray200

605lbsx3 is exceptional. We're so desensitised now by the proliferation of assistance gear (suits, wraps and copious drug use) affecting poundage that we forget what a remarkable feat a 600lbs+ deadlift is. Look forward to the next record.

Best,
Ray
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Turpin

Well , I took 285kg/628lbs and performed 2 reps. These look much faster than they felt , on the first rep I felt I lost the groove and had to pull it in , whilst the 2nd rep was better . I DID plan on trying to do as many reps as I could .. but this was it , and I suffered the next day , nothing untoward but enough to know you put some effort in.
Now a period of lighter stuff before a prep for my comp in Nov.

https://www.youtube.com/...h?v=o60UWTr4YhE

T.
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DukeMatisse

Awesome.

Ive been following this thread from day 1 and am excited to see you pull 4 times bodyweight in competition.

Do you feel the trap bar deadlifts transfer positively to a barbell power lifting deadlift?

Whats your plan for the months/weeks leading up to the competition?
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DukeMatisse wrote:
Awesome.

Ive been following this thread from day 1 and am excited to see you pull 4 times bodyweight in competition.

Do you feel the trap bar deadlifts transfer positively to a barbell power lifting deadlift?

Whats your plan for the months/weeks leading up to the competition?


Thank you . My form / set up on the trap bar is not far removed from my conventional deadlift form , and what I am gaining in what little leg drive the trap bar affords me I am losing by pulling a little further to conclude the movement than I would on a conventional bar deadlift.
BUT I intend to switch to straight bar work over the summer months and simply repeat similar training cycles that have brought me to this juncture . With an emphasis on volume ( multiple low rep sets ) @ 80% effort and only occasionally dipping into 90%+ to manage the intensity and subsequent recovery.
Assistance work has been imperative to get me back here and that is always performed simply as 3-4 sets of 10 reps on selected exercise. I never go to failure here , just 3-4 hard sets on exercises that address my weaknesses and give something to the main lift.

I am very excited ( & feel blessed ) at the prospect of being back and competitive at something I always felt I lost my best years by suffering my injury all those years ago when I was just rising in the sport.

https://www.youtube.com/...h?v=d8DQIFUyB0Q

Thank you for your continued interest in what I do ... much appreciated.





T.
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Turpin

My condition to date . Not as lean as I have been BUT at a body composition level that is conducive to optimise my training efforts in the sport I am pursuing.

T.
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spud

Swiss bar OHP / KB Rows ( 5 cycles 10 reps )

Hi Turpin,

When you write things like the quote above what does it mean?

I think I get it but I'm not sure.

I'm guessing it means that you do a set of Swiss bar OHP for a set of 10 reps and then immediately i.e. with as little rest as possible do KB rows for a set of 10 reps.

At that point you rest for 30 seconds (because this is slightly more physique orientated than the powerlifting/strength movements you do.

After the 30 seconds rest you then do Swiss bar OHP for a set of 10 reps and then immediately follow it with KB rows for a set of 10 reps.

That would be 2 cycles.

Is that correct?

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Also do you, throughout this thread use the terms cycle and supersets interchangeably or is there a subtle difference between the two?
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spud wrote:
Swiss bar OHP / KB Rows ( 5 cycles 10 reps )

Hi Turpin,

When you write things like the quote above what does it mean?

I think I get it but I'm not sure.

I'm guessing it means that you do a set of Swiss bar OHP for a set of 10 reps and then immediately i.e. with as little rest as possible do KB rows for a set of 10 reps.

At that point you rest for 30 seconds (because this is slightly more physique orientated than the powerlifting/strength movements you do.

After the 30 seconds rest you then do a set of Swiss bar OHP for a set of 10 reps and then immediately follow it with KB rows for a set of 10 reps.

That would be 2 cycles.

Is that correct?

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Also do you, throughout this thread use the terms cycle and supersets interchangeably or is there a subtle difference between the two?


You are correct Spud , 1 set followed immediately by another then rest = 1 cycle , the term s/set is just the same.

T.

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spud

Bulgarian Split squat / Sumo KB deadlift ( 5 cycles x 15 reps )

Turpin,

How would the above work?

Bulgarian Split Squat is a single legged exercises, so which way does it work in practice?

Bulgarian Split squat LEFT leg / Sumo KB deadlift / Bulgarian Split squat RIGHT leg / Sumo KB deadlift / Bulgarian Split squat LEFT leg / Sumo KB deadlift etc etc

Or is it?.

Bulgarian Split squat LEFT leg / Bulgarian Split squat RIGHT leg / Sumo KB deadlift / Bulgarian Split squat LEFT leg / Bulgarian Split squat RIGHT leg / Sumo KB deadlift etc etc

Thanks in advance for your help!
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spud wrote:
Bulgarian Split squat / Sumo KB deadlift ( 5 cycles x 15 reps )

Turpin,

How would the above work?

Bulgarian Split Squat is a single legged exercises, so which way does it work in practice?

Bulgarian Split squat LEFT leg / Sumo KB deadlift / Bulgarian Split squat RIGHT leg / Sumo KB deadlift / Bulgarian Split squat LEFT leg / Sumo KB deadlift etc etc

Or is it?.

Bulgarian Split squat LEFT leg / Bulgarian Split squat RIGHT leg / Sumo KB deadlift / Bulgarian Split squat LEFT leg / Bulgarian Split squat RIGHT leg / Sumo KB deadlift etc etc

Thanks in advance for your help!


The latter version Spud .

Those cycles were a killer on the legs , and are something I am leaning toward going back to as assistance work for my powerlifting .

T.

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Turpin

Started a whole new 12 week training block , Todays training :

Front squat: 300lbs x 3 reps ( 8 sets )

Bulgarian KB split squat : 4 sets x 10 reps

https://www.youtube.com/...h?v=qEHY3McIF8o

Donkey calf raise / Dumbell side bends : 4 cycles x 25 & 10 reps respectively.

T.
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Average Al

Turpin,

I recall that you injured your back deadlifting, but I don't know the nature of the injury. Did you ever get a firm diagnosis? How long did it take to recover from the physical effects of the injury? What has lead you to get back into powerlifting now?

I ask because I just tweaked my back deadlifting a few weeks ago. It seemed minor, but I must not have given myself enough recovery time, because I managed to reinjure myself again a few days ago. I will now be laying off of several exercises until I can stand up straight. It has me rethinking the risk versus reward for that particular exercise.
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Average Al wrote:
Turpin,

I recall that you injured your back deadlifting, but I don't know the nature of the injury. Did you ever get a firm diagnosis? How long did it take to recover from the physical effects of the injury? What has lead you to get back into powerlifting now?

I ask because I just tweaked my back deadlifting a few weeks ago. It seemed minor, but I must not have given myself enough recovery time, because I managed to reinjure myself again a few days ago. I will now be laying off of several exercises until I can stand up straight. It has me rethinking the risk versus reward for that particular exercise.


I injured myself in powerlifting competition 23yrs ago performing a 600+ squat and my suit blew causing the bar to fly over my head whilst in the low position. I injured a facet joint and strained the S.I and after lots of specialist interventions ( inj. therapies , chiro , physio etc ) it has taken me 23yrs to recover physically and mentally .... well I haven't really recovered , as the effects of the injury is still there BUT I no longer avoid exercises that I once feared would aggravate ( or were prone previously to aggravate ) . I now train in a manner that addresses my issues and not around them , by attempting to make everything strong again and for the most part utilising 80% effort at volume and only occasionally progressing to 90-100% effort . This has realised me back lifting enough to consider competing once more , this time in the masters 3 division ( over 50`s ) and pulling 620+ recently for a double.

I often weigh up the `risk to reward` of what I do , BUT after 23yrs of misery and avoiding that ( which I know now ) which would / could have realised recovery back then I am presently enjoying the reward factor .

T.

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Turpin wrote:
Average Al wrote:
Turpin,

I recall that you injured your back deadlifting, but I don't know the nature of the injury. Did you ever get a firm diagnosis? How long did it take to recover from the physical effects of the injury? What has lead you to get back into powerlifting now?

I ask because I just tweaked my back deadlifting a few weeks ago. It seemed minor, but I must not have given myself enough recovery time, because I managed to reinjure myself again a few days ago. I will now be laying off of several exercises until I can stand up straight. It has me rethinking the risk versus reward for that particular exercise.

I injured myself in powerlifting competition 23yrs ago performing a 600+ squat and my suit blew causing the bar to fly over my head whilst in the low position. I injured a facet joint and strained the S.I and despite lots of intervention ( Injection therapies , Chiro , physio etc ) it has taken me 23yrs to recover physically and mentally .... well I haven't recovered really , the effects of the injury is still there BUT I no longer avoid exercises that I once feared would aggravate ( or were prone previously to aggravate ) . I now train in a manner that addresses my issues and not around them , by attempting to make everything strong again and for the most part utilising 80% effort at volume and only occasionally progressing to 90-100% effort . This has realised me back lifting enough to consider competing once more , this time in the masters 3 division ( over 50`s ) and pulling 620+ recently for a double.

I often weigh up the `risk to reward` of what I do , BUT after 23yrs of misery and avoiding that ( which I know now ) which would / could have realised recovery back then I am presently enjoying the reward factor .

T.



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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

I injured my back when I was about 16 (slightly crushed disk and some damage to a facet). Constant pain... throbbing to slightly sharp... usually a 5-out-of-10 on average (some days less pain, other days more).

I saw a few chiropractors regularly, but that didn't help much (sometimes irritated the area more with the snapping and cracking and twisting). One chiro told me to avoid heavy lifting, particularly things like squats and deads. I did that, but over time my back felt worse.

I then said "f*** it," and got back into squats and deads (although I learned to dead only as low as my knees and not all the way to the floor). By my mid 20s I was 90% better.

Two things got me to 100%... using the MedX low back machine and regularly working (massaging with a therapy ball) my gluteals. I was surprised as to how much low back tightness and pain was caused by knots in my glutes.

In any case, I'm with Turpin... avoiding certain things, particularly those that DEVELOP and STRENGTHEN the lumbar muscles, when a problem exists in the lumbar region, often is not the best thing to do. Of course, every situation is unique.
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Training 25/04/16

OHP : 80% effort@ 80kg x 3 reps ( 8 sets ) / Wide pullup : bodyweight x 10 reps ( 8 sets )

Gironda dip / KB Rows : 3 cycles x 10 reps.

FAT bar curl /CG floor press : 3 cycles x 10 reps.

Face pulls : 3 sets x 10 reps.

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B`fast : 3 eggs scrambled in butter , 1 toast , coffee.

Lunch : Salmon salad with , cyder vinegar & mayo dressing.

Evening meal : Rib eye Steak , egg n spinach , wine.

Supper: Cottage cheese , walnuts n blueberries.

T.
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Brian Johnston wrote:
I injured my back when I was about 16 (slightly crushed disk and some damage to a facet). Constant pain... throbbing to slightly sharp... usually a 5-out-of-10 on average (some days less pain, other days more).

I saw a few chiropractors regularly, but that didn't help much (sometimes irritated the area more with the snapping and cracking and twisting). One chiro told me to avoid heavy lifting, particularly things like squats and deads. I did that, but over time my back felt worse.

I then said "f*** it," and got back into squats and deads (although I learned to dead only as low as my knees and not all the way to the floor). By my mid 20s I was 90% better.

Two things got me to 100%... using the MedX low back machine and regularly working (massaging with a therapy ball) my gluteals. I was surprised as to how much low back tightness and pain was caused by knots in my glutes.

In any case, I'm with Turpin... avoiding certain things, particularly those that DEVELOP and STRENGTHEN the lumbar muscles, when a problem exists in the lumbar region, often is not the best thing to do. Of course, every situation is unique.


I can relate to everything you wrote here Brian , and most of your other writing too.

T.

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Average Al

Thank you both for the feedback.

Deadlifting has done great things for my posterior chain and low back, setting aside the recent injury, so I don't want to give up on it.

I like the idea of more volume at a lower intensity, and skipping or limiting the limit strength (1RM) attempts.

I've also been thinking about doing more accessory work to build up strength with less injury risk. Sure wish I had access to a Medx low back machine. I've always wanted to try something like that.

That squatting accudent sounds like a good arguement in favor of "raw" lifting.
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