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TravisH

Florida, USA

Well. I am going to train probably 3 times per week, whole body, everything to failure. All negatives. I am currently doing 9 sets of negatives per workout but have been only training on avg 6 times per month.

The trick for me is going to be increasing my caloric intake. I have a horrible habit of not eating enough. That will have to change if I am gonig to do the Wimped out version of the Colorado experience.

I am dubbing this the "Springs Experiment" Since that is where Jim lives. I am going to get geared up for it and start in 2 weeks. I will take all measurements, bodyweight, and bodyfat. Then I will record everything I eat on a daily basis, as well as liquids consumed.

The workout should change, but the premise will be heavy compound movements all negative. M-W-F. This may quickly lead to overtraining since I don't have the genetics or other help that Casey did. What do you think El?

My workout will be

Negative Avenger Leg Press
Negative Leg Extensions
Negative Deadlift
Negative Nautilus Pullover
Negative Chins Weighted -
Negative Dips Weighted
Negative Chest Press
Negative Lateral Raise Med Ex
Negative MedX Shoulder Press
Negative Pushups
Negative Bicep Curls

I can usually go all out without resting until I hit Shoulder press. My goal is to make it all the way through without stopping. My current time for this workout is 13 minutes. I want to get my bodyweight back up to 220 but stay lean like I am now. I am 6ft 1"

If You guys want I can post my diet and progress. It may be a motivator to stick with this for the 6 weeks I plan on doing it. I just have to get mentally focused for it. Hopefully Jim doesn't tell me that i am not ready for it. I think I am. He tends to be a bit protective.

He is always yelling at us when one of us pukes in the gym. He is worried someone might die from a heart attack. One guy got so delerious a couple of weeks ago that he was just slumped on the floor laughing hysterically for no reason and wouldn't respond. Then he puked and fell asleep in the driveway. Jim almost kicked my ass for that one.

Take care guys!!!!

I could really use some moral support in starting this insane workout regimine. What do you guys think?
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Growl

I think that workout would over train nearly every primate on the planet in a matter of one week. Funny post though. Any thoughts Dr. Darden?
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hdlifter

All I can say is GOOD LUICK! It would kill me, so better you than I. I look forward to hearing how it pans out?
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Ellington Darden

Travis,

I believe your training routine is too much -- by at least two exercises. I recommend that you drop the negative chins and negative dips.

Ellington
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cmg

Hello Travis,

Thanks for the update!!

That sounds like a lot of work without much rest. My thought is would possibly be good shock for one week but bring it down to 6 x's per month after that for one month.

Please keep us apprised!

Regards,
Ron
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latman

Texas, USA

Travis,
Please post your progress and diet info.
How are the workouts going?
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latman

Texas, USA

Just checking to see if everyone is still alive here. Travis, how has your new routine been? Im curious about the volume and if you have been able to recover from such a routine 3x week.
Any new routines from Jim?
Please keep us posted.
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Growl

I sent Travis a message and asked for an update. I'm curious to see if he is still alive.

Jeff
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TravisH

Florida, USA

Sorry for not writing sooner. El is right I dropped the negative chins, but kept the dips. Flanagan told me I was insane to do that workout as often as I had planned. The 6 times per month is the most realistic. To be perfectly honest with you the workout is not going so well right now.

I was able to do it for about 2 weeks and then started having a hard time finding a third person to come in and help with the spotting. I did recruit someone and when I get back from vacation next week I will get it going again. The progress was good, but I didn't have enough time to accurately guage results.

I have been training normal HIT, those two words together don't make sense. The workouts are still tough, but I am convined after the two weeks of negatives that it was working. i am going to do this right this time. I will take some before pictures for you guys and I am going to write down everything I eat and drink in a day. Then I will do the routine for 60 days and post the results.

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latman

Texas, USA

Travis,
If the problem was the spotters cant you just lift the weight with both limbs and lower with just one on certain exercises.
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TravisH

Florida, USA

Yes, I have tried the negative accentuated training, but it seems to put my body out of balance during the exercise. On leg press I have been advised by Jim not to go too heavy on the one leg negative in that it puts uneven pressure on the spine and hip flexors.

The only thing that I really need two spotters for is the leg aspect. One is enough for the rest. I think I have it figured out. Just got back from vacation. Going to start the routine Saturday.

~T
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TravisH

Florida, USA

Oh by the way. Yes that was wayyy too much and definitely overtraining. I have the Jones 2 book series, not sure if any of you have purchased it. It is black hard bound and comes in a case. One is a story of his life, and the other is every Nautilus bullitin he ever wrote.

I misread the Colorado Experiment. We are only going to the negative workout sans the Chins and Dips once a week. Every other Wed we are going to do the squat chin dip, squat chin, squat dip, squat, deadlift, shrug routine. On the other Wed we will be off. I am working so much that it is hard to write a weekly update, but I will try.

~t
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Growl

I thought so, Travis. I've done some crazy shit as well and that looked tough. There is a routine in Bulletin 2, I'll try and find. It looked good.

Jeff

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That routine I mentioned was not a negative one but looks really good and could be used as such with a litte adapting. It's on page 196 of the A.J. set you own which contains the Bulletins. He has you perform a second sets for about 4 exercises but if it's only done for one set each, it would end up being about 7 exercises total.
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cmg

Hey Travis,

How are the results coming? Working out 6 days/month?

Regards,

Ron
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mraine

Big Growth for a Beginner?
I previously worked an HIT routine to great results, if sloppily conducted. I strayed for awhile, and now I'm back - and I've recruited a follower who I found doing 20-30 sets, 4-5 times a week!

Problem is - I've not been training with high-intensity, and it's been a few months since I last trained consistently. I am 6' 155-60, and very lean at the moment. I want to get back up to 175, and quick! We'll talk 180-85 later.

But, I don't want to hurt myself and wind up doing no training at all.
I really like this workout, but is it right for me?
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Growl

mraine wrote:
Big Growth for a Beginner?
I previously worked an HIT routine to great results, if sloppily conducted. I strayed for awhile, and now I'm back - and I've recruited a follower who I found doing 20-30 sets, 4-5 times a week!

Problem is - I've not been training with high-intensity, and it's been a few months since I last trained consistently. I am 6' 155-60, and very lean at the moment. I want to get back up to 175, and quick! We'll talk 180-85 later.

But, I don't want to hurt myself and wind up doing no training at all.
I really like this workout, but is it right for me?


I don't think this workout is right for you. You don't need it at your stage to grow. Go to the discussion forum and look for the Jones routine thread. That routine would work better IMO. You can drop the second sets in that routine if you like and it may be a good idea for now. Buy Dr. Darden's new book on this site for a lot of needed info. http://arthurjonesexercise.com... is also a good place to read Nautilus Bulletin 1 and 2 for free.

Good luck,
Jeff

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cmg

Hello Travis,

Just wanted to see if you're still training with Jim. If so what type of routine and what kind of results.

Thanks,

Ron
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drog

I couldn't agree more I've only talked on the phone a few times with Jim ,he took from his busy schedule to talk and even invited me to meet with him for a workout as( I was scheduled to be in FL)..I never met with Jim but he was gracious,knowledgable and the real deal there aren't many high intensity people around in upstate NY , his words were a real 'shot in the arm'
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cmg

Does anyone know if Travis still trains?

Regards,

Ron
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Ellington Darden

cmg wrote:
Does anyone know if Travis still trains?

Regards,

Ron


I visited with Big Jim yesterday and he noted that Travis trained with him almost every Saturday.

Ellington

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cmg

Ellington Darden wrote:
cmg wrote:
Does anyone know if Travis still trains?

Regards,

Ron

I visited with Big Jim yesterday and he noted that Travis trained with him almost every Saturday.

Ellington



Thanks Dr. D.

Is he still progressing nicely?

Regards,

Ron

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spud

Dr Darden,

It would be great if you could have a word with Jim and see if Travis could start updating this thread again, even if it's just once a month.

It would be good to know what his routine is and what his body weight and some other stats are.
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H.I.T. Believer

I read in Dr. Darden's new book that Jim had 23 medx machines and 4 old nautilus machines. The compound bicep and compound tricep is mentioned in this thread .
Does anyone know what are the other 2 older classic nautilus machines are in Big Jim's private home gym ????
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Ellington Darden

Big Jim has two plateloading pullover machines, a rowing-torso machine, and two multi-exercise machines -- plus the compound biceps and compound triceps.

Ellington
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H.I.T. Believer

Dr. Darden,
Thanks for the information..What did you think of the old nautilus compound bicep and why did Nautilus stop making the machine so quickly ? What did you think of the old compound tricep machine ? The compound bicep-tricep must have had a real short production run and i was curious of your opinion on why
thanks
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