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amg455

I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the addition of essential oils(flaxseed, cod liver, Udo's, etc) to one's diet? Marketing hype or are there actual benefits?
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Sesame

i like to bathe in essential oils amkes my skin so soft :B
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amg455

Sesame wrote:
i like to bathe in essential oils amkes my skin so soft :B


Okay, fruity...
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Ryan Sergent

Indiana, USA

amg,
I ask the same question. Like most 11 year olds my son had a problem focusing on his school work. I put him on Omega-3 fish oil gel caps and the improvement in his grades is stunning! Some studies lend creedence to this... then again threatening to destroy his paint ball gun collection might have more to do with it:) I don't know about the fat loss claims though.

Ryan
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Sesame

Ryan Sergent wrote:
amg,
I ask the same question. Like most 11 year olds my son had a problem focusing on his school work. I put him on Omega-3 fish oil gel caps and the improvement in his grades is stunning! Some studies lend creedence to this... then again threatening to destroy his paint ball gun collection might have more to do with it:) I don't know about the fat loss claims though.

Ryan


A stunning behavioural change on fish oil pills? If you are sure of this connection this begs the question of why and what is he deficient in?? Is his diet this bad that fish oil pills make such remarkable changes, because a "stunning" change is very unusual and aa possible cause for further investigation. Not making any accusations here just saying anytime such a simple addition to diet results in such a remarkable change raises my eyebrows!
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J.W.

Indiana, USA

EFAs are necessary for good health, lowering cholesterol, nerve and brain function etc. There has also been some improvement shown with the treatment of children who have autism when including EFAs in there diet.

As far as any increase in athletic performance; you are probably not going to notice much change with the additon of more EFAs to you diet.

J.W.
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Ryan Sergent

Indiana, USA

sesame,
I'm short on time but when I get back I'll explain why I tried these and how they may work.

Ryan
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bill1

California, USA

DHA is considered to be required for healthy normal brain developent and is now required by the Feds to be added to infant formula. Children's developing brains probably benefit from DHA in thier diet. Fish oil from dietary sources has been shown to decrease the incidence of heart attack.
Many physicians are now prescibing fish oil capsules for some inflammatory conditions.

I think that including high omega fish in your diet at least twice a week is a very good idea. If you can afford it and if you do not have a medical condition that would contraindicate it''s use, why not use it in moderation? Someone with low platelet count, on blood thinners, hemophiliacs, etc. should not use fish oil from what I understand, unless it is prescibed by thier Doc.

Is supplementation of fish oil neccessary to build muscle? No.

Bill
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STanner

Texas, USA

When I dose fish oil in large amounts (15 to 20 grams a day), I notice significant cognitive improvemant. The nutrient partitioning effects of fish oil is also outstanding.

That said, you can buy pure omega-3 liquid that turns many fish oil pills into a teaspoon of omega-3.
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tylerg

A stunning behavioural change on fish oil pills? If you are sure of this connection this begs the question of why and what is he deficient in?? Is his diet this bad that fish oil pills make such remarkable changes, because a "stunning" change is very unusual and aa possible cause for further investigation. Not making any accusations here just saying anytime such a simple addition to diet results in such a remarkable change raises my eyebrows!
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I am not surprised. It doesn't take much to throw one's system out balance and, conversely, it doesn't take much to get it back on track. I have seen positive results with such things as EFA's, trace minerals and the like. I know I am waxing anecdotal, however, the results were positve. I also know that there could have been other factors in each of the cases to add benefit.

Tyler
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Ryan Sergent

Indiana, USA

Sesame wrote:
Ryan Sergent wrote:
amg,
I ask the same question. Like most 11 year olds my son had a problem focusing on his school work. I put him on Omega-3 fish oil gel caps and the improvement in his grades is stunning! Some studies lend creedence to this... then again threatening to destroy his paint ball gun collection might have more to do with it:) I don't know about the fat loss claims though.

Ryan

A stunning behavioural change on fish oil pills? If you are sure of this connection this begs the question of why and what is he deficient in?? Is his diet this bad that fish oil pills make such remarkable changes, because a "stunning" change is very unusual and aa possible cause for further investigation. Not making any accusations here just saying anytime such a simple addition to diet results in such a remarkable change raises my eyebrows!
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Sesame,

Okay here it is...stunning is still the adjective

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...ega_three.shtml
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Sesame

Ryan Sergent wrote:
Sesame wrote:
Ryan Sergent wrote:
amg,
I ask the same question. Like most 11 year olds my son had a problem focusing on his school work. I put him on Omega-3 fish oil gel caps and the improvement in his grades is stunning! Some studies lend creedence to this... then again threatening to destroy his paint ball gun collection might have more to do with it:) I don't know about the fat loss claims though.

Ryan

A stunning behavioural change on fish oil pills? If you are sure of this connection this begs the question of why and what is he deficient in?? Is his diet this bad that fish oil pills make such remarkable changes, because a "stunning" change is very unusual and aa possible cause for further investigation. Not making any accusations here just saying anytime such a simple addition to diet results in such a remarkable change raises my eyebrows!
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Sesame,

Okay here it is...stunning is still the adjective

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...e.shtml



Ryan, that's great that he's improved so well. Yes, I'm already familiar with the claims made in your link, but thanks for additional info.

But my point is the fact that your son improved so dramatically with supplemental fish oil just a symptom of a greater deficiency of diet? Many have diet so meat, dairy and potato centered..steak, hamburgers, hot dogs, french fries, wing dings etc, mashed potatos laden with butter and fatty gravies etc... that a deficiencies occur more often than we might like to admit in important nutrients that are found only in plants.

In short, we focus and expend most our alloted cals on meat at the expense of other nutrient dense foods. Our diest are so screwed up..
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Ryan Sergent

Indiana, USA

Sesame,
I think that EFAs are removed from packaged food to extend the shelf life

Ryan
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amg455

Sesame wrote:
Ryan Sergent wrote:
Sesame wrote:
Ryan Sergent wrote:
amg,
I ask the same question. Like most 11 year olds my son had a problem focusing on his school work. I put him on Omega-3 fish oil gel caps and the improvement in his grades is stunning! Some studies lend creedence to this... then again threatening to destroy his paint ball gun collection might have more to do with it:) I don't know about the fat loss claims though.

Ryan

A stunning behavioural change on fish oil pills? If you are sure of this connection this begs the question of why and what is he deficient in?? Is his diet this bad that fish oil pills make such remarkable changes, because a "stunning" change is very unusual and aa possible cause for further investigation. Not making any accusations here just saying anytime such a simple addition to diet results in such a remarkable change raises my eyebrows!
:|



Sesame,

Okay here it is...stunning is still the adjective

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...ega_three.shtml


Ryan, that's great that he's improved so well. Yes, I'm already familiar with the claims made in your link, but thanks for additional info.

But my point is the fact that your son improved so dramatically with supplemental fish oil just a symptom of a greater deficiency of diet? Many have diet so meat, dairy and potato centered..steak, hamburgers, hot dogs, french fries, wing dings etc, mashed potatos laden with butter and fatty gravies etc... that a deficiencies occur more often than we might like to admit in important nutrients that are found only in plants.

In short, we focus and expend most our alloted cals on meat at the expense of other nutrient dense foods. Our diest are so screwed up..
:|


In my estimation, your diet is the only one that is screwed up...apparently you don't know much. You can play down meat all you want, but considering meat is high in vitamins A and D as well as certain B vitamins that cannot be obtained via plant sources, it seems essential to me. Also, saturated fat helps the cells take in omega-3 fats and other essential fats.

http://www.westonaprice.org/...ats/skinny.html

I'd like to see you argue this with Dr. Mary Enig, PhD a foremost expert on fats.

BTW, the Framingham Heart Study was complete bullshit:

"The Framingham Heart Study is often cited as proof of the lipid hypothesis. This study began in 1948 and involved some 6,000 people from the town of Framingham, Massachusetts. Two groups were compared at five-year intervals?those who consumed little cholesterol and saturated fat and those who consumed large amounts. After 40 years, the director of this study had to admit: "In Framingham, Mass, the more saturated fat one ate, the more cholesterol one ate, the more calories one ate, the lower the person's serum cholesterol. . . we found that the people who ate the most cholesterol, ate the most saturated fat, ate the most calories, weighed the least and were the most physically active."3 The study did show that those who weighed more and had abnormally high blood cholesterol levels were slightly more at risk for future heart disease; but weight gain and cholesterol levels had an inverse correlation with fat and cholesterol intake in the diet."



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Sesame

I've said it before and I'll say it again here, calorie for calorie PLANTS are MUCH more nutrient-dense than animal foods with the exception of B12. Add FISH to the diet, or a B12 supplement, you have a far far better source than beef. I'm not going to argue with you the ridiculous notion that more saturated fats and cholesterol in one's diet is a healthy alternative. That's just plain wrong, and everyone here knows it. What I've outlined here is far better way to get your nutrients, essential amino acids, etc. And you interpretation of the Framington Heart Study is bizarre to say the least.
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