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Crotalus

It isn't unusual to see advice about keeping you gym time and training resonable in order to live a 'normal' life with time also there for family , friends and other activities. You always see good advice about not letting your interest in a better body become an obsession that makes you an outcast and keeping your goals reasonable with what you genetics will allow .

Yet I never see the same sane advice when it comes to eating. The way I see it, your diet can become pretty ridiculous too. I've been guilty of it in the past, becoming so overly concerned with calories and food combinations that it definately got in the way of a normal lifestyle at times.

In doing that I missed out on some fun times with friends and family ; summer cookouts, parties or just a fun night out for pizza, beer and girl watching with my buddies because of 'my diet'.

I didn't take it too far where I became an unreasonable nutcase about it and lost friends, but I look back and see how ridiculous I acted about it at times and how little difference, if any, it would have made if I joined those people after work once in awhile or didn't skip that July 4th cookout because of my 'I don't eat that junk' mentality at the time.

I see some of the extreme eating regiments mentioned here in another thread and am curious about how some of the extreme eaters are doing socially with such strict diets. On a date, when your date is eating a steak are you really limiting yourself to slicing up a celery stick or do some of you avoid social things like dating altogether because it doesn't fit your diet ?

I'm wondering about the guys who have kids if the Sunday 'stop for ice cream with Dad' is something the kids have learned not to even mention ?

Like I said, I also missed out on some fun along the way while trying to look like Franco Columbo, LOL. I now realize that was just plain stupid as I'd still look the same as I do now or did then if I did attend the cookout or had that night out with the friends and enjoyed myself.

I've read posts on some of the extreme diets and have to wonder how many guys posting them are making the mistake of messing up a social life for fear of going off their diet for a day ?

It's not just the gym time or training that can get out of hand in this interest ...


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tompuderbaugh

Very interesting point....

Moderation and balance in all things seem like the best approach.
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David_27

Tennessee, USA

Excellent post! This needed to be said, IMO. It's true that no matter how you eat, and no matter how you train, you'll get similar results. That's my experience, anyway. The thought some people (and I include myself here) put into diet and training represents an unhealthy amount of self obsession, I think.
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Yes

I dont find it that difficult to hold a strict diet.

BBQ with my friends? Well, I just have some chicken with low fat potato sallad and some veggies. Good food.

Going on a date? Theres always some healthy food on the menu, and I dont have to eat up all the food that is served. Plus I can eat a little less on my other meals.

Night out with my friends to get shit faced? Sure, i?ll drink lots of diet coke and have a good time.

I dont see any problem. I dont miss out on anything. Some days I even allow myself some junk, as long as it wont happen too often or too regularly.
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elecjet

New York, USA

Crotalus wrote:
It isn't unusual to see advice about keeping you gym time and training resonable in order to live a 'normal' life with time also there for family , friends and other activities. You always see good advice about not letting your interest in a better body become an obsession that makes you an outcast and keeping your goals reasonable with what you genetics will allow .

Yet I never see the same sane advice when it comes to eating. The way I see it, your diet can become pretty ridiculous too. I've been guilty of it in the past, becoming so overly concerned with calories and food combinations that it definately got in the way of a normal lifestyle at times.

In doing that I missed out on some fun times with friends and family ; summer cookouts, parties or just a fun night out for pizza, beer and girl watching with my buddies because of 'my diet'.

I didn't take it too far where I became an unreasonable nutcase about it and lost friends, but I look back and see how ridiculous I acted about it at times and how little difference, if any, it would have made if I joined those people after work once in awhile or didn't skip that July 4th cookout because of my 'I don't eat that junk' mentality at the time.

I see some of the extreme eating regiments mentioned here in another thread and am curious about how some of the extreme eaters are doing socially with such strict diets. On a date, when your date is eating a steak are you really limiting yourself to slicing up a celery stick or do some of you avoid social things like dating altogether because it doesn't fit your diet ?

I'm wondering about the guys who have kids if the Sunday 'stop for ice cream with Dad' is something the kids have learned not to even mention ?

Like I said, I also missed out on some fun along the way while trying to look like Franco Columbo, LOL. I now realize that was just plain stupid as I'd still look the same as I do now or did then if I did attend the cookout or had that night out with the friends and enjoyed myself.

I've read posts on some of the extreme diets and have to wonder how many guys posting them are making the mistake of messing up a social life for fear of going off their diet for a day ?

It's not just the gym time or training that can get out of hand in this interest ...





This is strange this hasnt been said. I feel the same way, all the time of lifting ridculous amounts of time and not going somewhere because i would miss a meal.

I am just sick of it now and that is why i am trying this warrior diet out. I have not been on it long but so far i love it. My energy during the day is very high i never have crashes at all. Suprisingly i yawn very little. I go home after work maybe workout a little bit and then have a big meal ( big enough where i am full but not stuffed where i can't move).

I do not know how it will work out but for some people on here they love it.

Right now i am trying this diet out which is the easiest diet in the world and lifting H.I.T. Oddly enough my workouts are on a completely empty sotmach and i have alot more energy this way.

I am glad Dr. Darden opened up a new way of eating and lifting for me which is great. But i am a binge eater and eating such low calories and breaking up the meals was not for me. I realized this when i noticed i have been binging for almost a year!

But i have another post on people eating 1-3 times a day or just one big meal and i will track progress in there with H.I.T. and the one meal a day to see how it goes.

Crotalus I feel that a lot of people on here or any other site is exactly the same way but i am young and can not let this get in the way of life.

This post should have it's own section with peoples thoughts.

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spud

David_27 wrote:
It's true that no matter how you eat, and no matter how you train, you'll get similar results.


I don't think that is true.

Whilst I do think some people split hairs over the details, volume, frequency, intensity, exercise selection etc are important.

Some people can progress regardless of how they train. Others have to be a little more selective with what kind of program they follow.

As far as diet is concerned food choices and overall calorie intake do have an effect although macro nutrient splits may not be quite as important. I don't think you can dismiss these factors so easily.

David_27 wrote:
The thought some people (and I include myself here) put into diet and training represents an unhealthy amount of self obsession, I think.


I agree with this.

I remember when I first got into HIT.

I was pleased that I worked so hard and progressed so well whilst spending very little time actually lifting weights.

The way I was training was so much more efficient compared with the methods adopted by these sad fools who do set after set and spend hours in the gym every day.

Looking back, I wasn't very different from these "fools". Whilst my time in the gym may have only been 20-40% of what theirs was, if the truth be known I thought about training and diet CONSTANTLY.

Whilst lifting weights only took about 2 hours a week I still had to travel to and from the gym which took 15 minutes each way.

Then there was the eating. It's all I thought about. I avoided going out with my friends for fear of having to drink even the smallest amount of alcohol and be deprived of a few hours of sleep.

It was pathetic. Despite my time efficient training, my life was dominated by it.

At the end of the day I think it all boils down to sacrifice. If you are willing to sacrifice everything to maximise your physique, then you will probably end up looking terrific. The only problem is that you will be such a hermit, nobody will ever get to see it.

I think that level of sacrifice is only necessary if you are serious about competing in a contest of some description.

There is certainly a very fine line between dedication and obsession.
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Paul Marsland

It depends on how you want to look, if you just want to look "OK" then diet does not need to take on that much importance.
However (and this is coming from someone who used to disregard diet as I too believed that training protocol would take care of everything) if you want to maximise your appearance then diet plays a vital role.

Obsessive? Maybe, but it depends on how you view obsessive, I see it as dedication and discipline, once your body fat starts to come down and you see the influence that manipulating your diet can have on your apperance then you start to pay more attention to what you eat and how often. For me this consists of 6-8 meals a day, but I'm training with a specific purpose in mind that being competitive bodybuilding.
I realise my views may seem extreme, but for me my day doesn't start till about 11;30 am (due to my job) and I usually eat my first meal shortly after waking, my last meal is normally about 2:00 am the following morning.


The addage "You are what you eat is very true". In my opinion and from what experience has taught/shown me.

Paul.
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elecjet

New York, USA

I am going to see how it works out but man last night was great. We had a clam bake at work and it was my big meal of the day. So i started out with some salad and a little dressing and then on to the marinated grilled chicken and man did i destroy this. I went it ate and mingled and had a great time without thinking about food.

I got up this morning after a excellent nights sleep and didn't feel bloated at all.

I am very much hoping this change in diet ( not my training) will aid in the life little pleasures i gues you would say.

If diet did not play a role in life then everyone would have a great life but it's sometimes not the case.
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Swedish Viking

California, USA

I suppose I have the most 'extreme' diet of anyone on this board. It has never kept me from being social. The only thing that has kept me from being social is the idea that I have to be eating something to have fun. If you like the way you eat and you like being social; it doesn't make sense to change the way you eat just so you can go out and have fun the way you always have. Compramising the healthiest parts of your life for fun, when you can have just as much fun without compramising them doesn't make sense. Just start having fun without eating and destroying your body, which seems to be the trend nowadays. I go out to dinners and things of the like pretty often without eating. I go out to bars and clubs without drinking. It's all pretty simple. It's usually the people you are with that have the problem with it, not you.
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Cherry

I'm not sure that i qualify as an "extreme diet" but I eat mostly a plant-based diet and very ocassionally fish. Very very occasionally chicken meat or a little pork.

When i eat out, by myself or with others, I get the salad bar, or a side salad, or maybe just a low-fat pasta dish. I don't see the problem and I am strong enough not to cave into whatever social pressure may exist to eat excessively or very harmful things.

(I do fall off the wagon from time to time and order up a cheese laden veggie pizza.)

I'd rather not eat al all than to eat smthg like greasy sausage, greasy potatoes, steak etc.. junk like that.

:)
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