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howard1976

hi,i have been reading on here about negative training,and interested in trying it,will i get better results from say negative dips than just positive dips? at the momment im training ever five days, one set to falue, squats and pulldowns routine a ,then deadlift and dips routine b. should i try negative only or postive then negative after?

i have only just got back into training after a five year lay off! so my main question is really will i get better results from just doing negatives? or adding them after positives or just say with positives? as you may be able to tell im a bit confused what will be best!! and dont want to waste time trying to find out,as have some catching up for lost time!
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BF Bullpup

Massachusetts, USA

Five years... if that's your abs in your avatar picture, what happened? If I were in your shoes, I would just do positives with controlled negatives. Save the negative reps for when you're ready to take your training further.
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tompuderbaugh

I agree with Bullpup....Save the negatives for later. After a five year layoff, you can make plenty of progress with normal sets, so save negatives for perhaps six months from now.

They are a specialized technique that definately works, but you don't need it just yet.

Hope this helps and good training!

Tom Puderbaugh
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BF Bullpup

Massachusetts, USA

tompuderbaugh wrote:
I agree with Bullpup....Save the negatives for later. After a five year layoff, you can make plenty of progress with normal sets, so save negatives for perhaps six months from now.


Funny, I was also thinking 6 months from now. :-D
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howard1976

thanks guys,think i may give it more time. do you think when i do them,i would get better gains from positive and negatives or would that just lead to over training?
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BF Bullpup

Massachusetts, USA

howard1976 wrote:
thanks guys,think i may give it more time. do you think when i do them,i would get better gains from positive and negatives or would that just lead to over training?


You mean do positive contractions and then negative contractions in the negative-only training fashion? I don't know how that's possible, because in negative training you use weight that you can't lift positively for more than a few reps, if at all. Or have I misunderstood you?
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waynegr

Switzerland

I am looking for something I had about negative only, in short we found if far better after a few sets of exersices, or after pre-exhaustion, far better than before any exersices at all, the negative only seems to work far better when your muscles are warmed up.

Wayne
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saseme

Negatives are good anytime, juts be sure to alternate off with all other ways of training like pre-exhaust, straight sets to failure, straight sets not to failure, forced reps, nagative-only, negative accentuated, partials, free-weights sometimes, machines other times, drop sets, double drops, superslow, double pre-exhaust, irregular training days, regular training days, change time of day, change order of exercises, layoffs and anything else on it's own, in some combination with the aforementioned or all at the same time.
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howard1976

BFBullpup wrote:
howard1976 wrote:
thanks guys,think i may give it more time. do you think when i do them,i would get better gains from positive and negatives or would that just lead to over training?

You mean do positive contractions and then negative contractions in the negative-only training fashion? I don't know how that's possible, because in negative training you use weight that you can't lift positively for more than a few reps, if at all. Or have I misunderstood you?


i mean doing positives to fauilure,then start afer negatives to fauilure.would that work better than just negatives only?
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chaire

North Carolina, USA

Howard,
I have been training negative only for 18 months. I have made the best gains of my life. I have done NO, NO jreps, and max contractions with a negative rep at the end. I believe NO training is the best using any of the above protocals. I have been training HIT for over 30 years. I also have several Eccentric Edge machines, which makes NO training more practical.
I never do over 6 exercises, and now train 3 times every 2 weeks. I hope that helps.
God Bless,
Charlie
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howard1976

chaire wrote:
Howard,
I have been training negative only for 18 months. I have made the best gains of my life. I have done NO, NO jreps, and max contractions with a negative rep at the end. I believe NO training is the best using any of the above protocals. I have been training HIT for over 30 years. I also have several Eccentric Edge machines, which makes NO training more practical.
I never do over 6 exercises, and now train 3 times every 2 weeks. I hope that helps.
God Bless,
Charlie


if i did negatives it would be on dips,pulldowns or chins.ive read so many people on here say negative only is the way to go,but not sure if to do postives first? will doing positives first,then negatives after be better? get the best of both worlds so to speak? or is it just a case of finding out myself which works best!

just started back after not training for five years! and want the best way to get back the muscle in quickest time! also does muscle memory last five years or will be be like starting from new?
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Growl

chaire wrote:
Howard,
I have been training negative only for 18 months. I have made the best gains of my life. I have done NO, NO jreps, and max contractions with a negative rep at the end. I believe NO training is the best using any of the above protocals. I have been training HIT for over 30 years. I also have several Eccentric Edge machines, which makes NO training more practical.
I never do over 6 exercises, and now train 3 times every 2 weeks. I hope that helps.
God Bless,
Charlie


Hi Charlie,
Your posts always motivate me. How are the JReps working out? What were your gains like?
I ordered my zone training material but have been training using partials for some time now in my own attempts to fatigue the muscle thru a full range of motion (without machines) while using barbells, dumbbells, dips, and chins.

I often perform straight sets, using partials, in a range of motion that doesn't get hit as hard, followed by negatives in the FROM. This does the trick for me but I always change things up while keeping the sets low and the intensity high.

Jeff
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