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Richard Glover

From what I understand from Dr Darden's comments the data collection from the West Point study were flawed. I'm guessing this was a possible reason why the study didnt have the impact on the health and fitness world it should of had. Although there certainly were some great results.

If the study were to be re-created, I was wondering what should be done differently? Or what would you guys measure?
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Ellington Darden

You misunderstood my comment. The only test that was flawed dealt with the measurement of lean-body mass. Different personel performed the before-and-after test of that parameter.

The other tests were all done properly.

Ellington
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shlevon

Or maybe the people in the West Point study got stronger without gaining any actual lean mass. :-x
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Ellington Darden

shlevon wrote:
Or maybe the people in the West Point study got stronger without gaining any actual lean mass. :-x


Shlevon,

I was a West Point in 1975 for the entire study. I trained each cadet multiple times. I saw with my own eyes the additional muscle mass that each cadet built. And it was evident in most of the before-and-after pictures. I'm not sure why Jones never published any of the comparison shots. It was probably related to all the "politics" involved. I'll ask him on my next visit.

Ellington

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HIT

Norway

Ellington Darden wrote:
shlevon wrote:
Or maybe the people in the West Point study got stronger without gaining any actual lean mass. :-x

Shlevon,

I was a West Point in 1975 for the entire study. I trained each cadet multiple times. I saw with my own eyes the additional muscle mass that each cadet built. And it was evident in most of the before-and-after pictures. I'm not sure why Jones never published any of the comparison shots. It was probably related to all the "politics" involved. I'll ask him on my next visit.

Ellington





Maybe the cadets lost lean mass and fat, and then looked leaner and more muscular??
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Richard Glover

Ellington Darden wrote:
shlevon wrote:
Or maybe the people in the West Point study got stronger without gaining any actual lean mass. :-x

Shlevon,

I was a West Point in 1975 for the entire study. I trained each cadet multiple times. I saw with my own eyes the additional muscle mass that each cadet built. And it was evident in most of the before-and-after pictures. I'm not sure why Jones never published any of the comparison shots. It was probably related to all the "politics" involved. I'll ask him on my next visit.

Ellington




Thanks for the clarification Dr. Darden - apologies for my misinterpretation. It would be great to see the photos, what a hidden gem!
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shlevon

HIT wrote:
Ellington Darden wrote:
shlevon wrote:
Or maybe the people in the West Point study got stronger without gaining any actual lean mass. :-x

Shlevon,

I was a West Point in 1975 for the entire study. I trained each cadet multiple times. I saw with my own eyes the additional muscle mass that each cadet built. And it was evident in most of the before-and-after pictures. I'm not sure why Jones never published any of the comparison shots. It was probably related to all the "politics" involved. I'll ask him on my next visit.

Ellington





Maybe the cadets lost lean mass and fat, and then looked leaner and more muscular??


Bingo.

Look at all sorts of known before/after's (e.g. Christian Thibadeau's on t-mag) that had the math/analysis done. In many cases, these people gained very little (or none) LBM but look like different people.

This is a product of what happens when you reveal muscle, the visual impact can really alter your perception of how muscular somebody is.

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Wolfie

Before and After pictures wouldn't have made a difference. People would just say they were doctored.
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