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Boyer Coe Interview

One of the greatest bodybuilders of all time describes the high points of winning the Mr. America and Mr. Universe contests. He then talks about Arthur Jones, Joe Weider, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Finally, Coe shares
with you his foremost bodybuilding secret.

by Ellington Darden, Ph.D.


I couldn?t take my eyes off his arms. Each one must have measured 18-1/2 inches and he had just bench-pressed 385 pounds like it was 225. In the warm-up room, he was quiet, did not smile, and kept to himself. He couldn?t have been more than 17 or 18 years of age.

"Who?s that with those huge arms?" I whispered to a buddy.

"We?ve been hearing about this kid from Louisiana for several months," he replied. "He?s Boyer Coe."

It was early 1965 and I was in a regional powerlifting contest at the downtown YMCA in Dallas, Texas. I weighed 20 pounds more than Coe did and was several years older, but I couldn?t bench press what he could . . . and my arms were a lot smaller than his were.

I wasn?t in my leanest condition at that time and I didn?t enter or hang around for the Southwest physique competition, but Coe made a major impact on those who saw him place second. Six months later ? and 8 pounds heavier ? Coe impressed me in a way that I could hardly believe.

Texas, being such a big state, was very cliquish. There were AAU bodybuilding contests for Mr. North Texas, South Texas, East Texas, West Texas, Central Texas, and titles for all the major cities, such as Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, and Waco. You didn?t have to reside in those places to enter, but since most of the judges were from that specific area, local competitors almost always won.

The Mr. Texas contest was much the same. There was no written rule that out-of-state bodybuilders could not enter. The few who did were always badly burned by the Texas judges. As a result, most of the top-notch bodybuilders from other states stayed away from competing in the annual Mr. Texas contest.

Until . . . 18-year-old Boyer Coe of Lake Charles, Louisiana, strolled into Tyler, Texas, on a warm July afternoon, hit only six poses (three of which showed his magnificent arms to advantage) and danced away the 1965 Mr. Texas contest by getting first place votes from all the Texas judges. I doubt that that has ever been done before or after 1965.

Coe ? with his solemn, non-emotional, confident demeanor ? inspired hundreds of Texans, including me, that day to get bigger and better.

That was just a start for Boyer Coe ? height: 5 feet 8 inches, weight: 190-215 pounds. From 1966 to 1990, Coe won more national and international bodybuilding titles (amateur and professional) than anyone in the history of the sport. When you review all the champions ? such as John Grimek, Steve Reeves, Reg Park, Bill Pearl, Sergio Oliva, Larry Scott, Dave Draper, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, and Ronnie Coleman ? that?s a huge accomplishment.

Today, Coe lives with his wife, Terrie, in Huntington Beach, California. In 2002, he stepped in and helped his brother-in-law, who needed medical treatment, run an insurance business related to specialty cars. Sadly, his brother-in-law passed away this past February, so Boyer, along with Terrie and sister, Candy, are now in charge of the company. "We insure exotic, classic, and high-performance cars," Coe said when I interviewed him. "It?s a fascinating business and I?ve met many auto enthusiasts over the last two years."

At 58 years of age, Coe still takes his workouts very seriously. He?s an early riser and trains at 3:00 a.m. at a 24 Hour Fitness Center near his home. "I have the place mostly to myself," Coe said, "and I like it that way. It helps me focus better on each exercise."

I began my interview with Boyer by rolling back the clock to 1965.


Boyer Coe has probably won more Best Arms awards than anyone in competitive bodybuilding.


A LOOK BACK

ED: Boyer, there?s a picture of you in a double-arm biceps pose on page 16 of my new HIT book. That?s the way I remember you looking when I first saw you pose at the 1965 Mr. Texas contest. Were you aware at that time that you were much better built than the men you were competing against, even though most of them were 5 to 10 years older than you were?

BC: I know the photo that you are speaking of and it was taken right after a workout. I honestly can?t say that I was aware in 1965 that I was better than everybody else was. When I started there were so few people to get advice from. I had to learn mostly on my own.

I could probably best describe myself as "being like a sponge." Everyone thought I was real shy; actually I was trying to soak up as much as I could, that?s why I never said too much. But I was watching and listening. I just wanted to get bigger and I was hungry for inspiration.

I was so unaware of what to do initially. The first contest I entered was the 1964 Mr. Louisiana. I found out about it four days before it was to take place. I was only 17. I didn?t own posing trunks and had to use my swimsuit, rolled up. I was so into pumping up that I missed the line-up. When I realized I was the only one in the warm-up room, I hurried out the wrong door and found myself outside in an alley. The door slammed locked and I had to run around the block and come in through the audience to get on stage ? just as the announcer called my name. Keep in mind this was in the middle of January in New Orleans and it was cold outside. I came in third, and won most muscular and several body part awards.

On the way back home, my dad made the comment to me that he thought it was pretty smart how I came in through the audience. I never had the heart to tell him it was only because I got locked out.


INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE

ED: Boyer, whatever you were doing was certainly working ? especially on your arms. Today, I realize that there are no hidden secrets in muscle building. But at that time, we thought you knew something that we didn?t. Besides having the right genetics for bodybuilding, were there certain people who helped you early in your career?

BC: You?re right. At that time, everyone thought there was a secret ? I certainly thought there was. For hours on end I used to sit and stare at photos of Bill Pearl, thinking that he had the secret and that I had to discover it.

In 1960, Red Lerille from Louisiana won the Mr. America. I remember how excited I was when I read about it in Strength & Health. Red was the first bodybuilder I ever saw in person. When I was 14, he came to the Lake Charles YMCA and put on a posing exhibition. He didn?t do anything fancy, but he sure inspired everyone there. I knew then that I wanted to be a competitive bodybuilder. Red and I became life-long friends and he has always been a positive figure in my life.

Another person who had a great influence on me was John Gourgott. I saw him win the Jr. Mr. America in 1962. I was very cautious but I managed to get up enough courage to go over and congratulate him. Two years later when I was in the Mr. Louisiana contest, John was a judge. He gave me words of encouragement. Plus, he remembered me from two years earlier. Man that made me feel terrific.

After that we became close friends. I visited him many times over the years. John, although an eye surgeon retired, owned a World Gym in the San Francisco area and helped Joe Gold run World Gym Enterprises. Sadly, John passed away a couple of years ago.

Ben Mouton also had a major impact on my life. I met Ben when I moved to Lafayette to train at Lerille?s Gym and attend the University of Southern Louisiana. Ben had been in the circus most of his adult life and as he told it, "For 15 years I worked 15 minutes a day." He was the top attraction at Ringling Brothers. His trapeze act was so high it had to be performed outside the tent. Ben had traveled the world and been almost everywhere. He had been in the movies and worked with Errol Flynn. I used to sit and listen to his recollections for hours. He wasn?t just an old man telling stories because he had photos and newspaper clippings to verify what he said.

From Ben I learned the importance of showmanship and stage presence, things that I had not considered. He, along with Red, taught me about posing, how to contract and make it look natural and unstrained. A good example is that picture you spoke about earlier. Study that biceps pose of Casey Viator and me in your HIT book on page 16 and you?ll see what I?m talking about.


BEST LIFTS

ED: Yeah, I see what you mean. You certainly made your routine look easy as you flowed from pose to pose. You also entered a few powerlifting meets in 1965 or so, didn?t you? What were your best lifts in competition?

BC: I?m sure you will remember that the bodybuilding competitions in those days took place after the lifting was finished. I really started competing in powerlifting to give me something to do while I was waiting for the physique contest to start. Plus, I was so open for knowledge and I liked hanging with the powerlifters. They were always willing to help one another out. I was pretty good in the bench press and squat, but was never very good in the deadlift. I must have been built wrong for that lift.

I remember benching 420 pounds before I got out of high school, at a body weight of 182. I did a squat with 500 pounds at the same body weight ? and that was with no lifting belt.


MR. AMERICA & MR. UNIVERSE

ED: In 1969, you won the AAU Mr. America and the NABBA Mr. Universe titles. Which one was the most difficult to win and which one do you remember the most about?

BC: I had a good year in 1969, but I really thought I was going to win the Mr. America the year before. In 1968, I won the Most Muscular award, most of the body parts, and the crowd was really with me. Yet, I came in second to Jim Hasilop. In all fairness, Jim did have that all-American look. Naturally, I thought I was all set to win in 1969. But a strange thing happened the night before the contest.

As you well know, up to that point, there had never been a black Mr. America. There was a big push for Chris Dickerson to win that year. As I later heard, there was a meeting between the NAACP and the judging panel the night before the contest. After the contest, I learned that I had only won by half a point! So, that was the harder contest to win.

The Mr. Universe in London, however, was indeed special. Nothing, in fact, has given me as much satisfaction of winning the NABBA Universe in 1969. By that time, I really wanted the title. And I was going up against Jim Haislop, who had beaten me several times.

Coming out on top was certainly satisfying, but so was the feeling I got from the crowd, the love and respect I felt from the audience made it such a unique experience.

I will always remember leaving the auditorium through the back door and asking a stagehand, why were the streets blocked off and why were all of these people milling about? He said they were waiting to see the winner. I was so excited trying to shake everyone?s hand that I missed the coach to the hotel. All I had on was my sweats and no money, so I had to walk several miles back to the hotel. But it didn?t matter, I was on cloud nine!


WHERE ARE YOUR TROPHIES?

ED: When I was competing in bodybuilding throughout the 1960s, I recall frequently visiting Ronnie Ray at his National Health Club in north Dallas. As you know, Ronnie was many times a National and World Champion powerlifter. He had a small room inside his health club that must have contained more than a hundred, three-to-four-feet tall, championship trophies. I used to walk in that room in awe of all his accomplishments. You must also have several hundred championship trophies? Do your trophies have any special meaning for you? What have you done with them all?

BC: Ell, I don?t have a single trophy in my possession! I guess I?ve never been a collector. But I commend Ronnie for keeping and displaying his awards. I really admired him for his strength. And I know that Red Lerille still has all of his trophies.

In the early 1980s, I was competing in a lot in the IFBB contests in Europe. When I would win, I would always give the trophy to some aspiring bodybuilder, who would come up to me after the show. I did this in hopes of motivating the guy to continue on.

Having said that, however, there are two awards I wish I had today. First, the trophy I won for the 1969 NABBA Mr. Universe. This was a real part of history. It was the same trophy that John Grimek, Steve Reeves, and Bill Pearl won. It wasn?t huge, it wasn?t gaudy ? but it was all class. They stopped making that trophy in 1972. Somewhere along the way, I lost it.

Second, I wish I still had the Mr. International trophy I won in 1970. This was an annual contest held in Tijuana, Mexico, by Eddie Silvestre, a former Mr. Universe. When he put on the contest, it seemed like the whole city of Tijuana turned out. There were thousands of people there. Anyway the trophy was beautifully made of marble and bronze and weighed well over a hundred pounds. It was so heavy I had to ship it back to Louisiana on a Greyhound bus. I?m not sure what happened to it, but I?d sure like to have in my home now.


HOWARD HUGHES EMERGES

ED: Arthur Jones tells a humorous story about Red Lerille and you visiting him in Florida in 1970. Seems like it had something to do with Howard Hughes. Can you remember the specifics of what happened?

BC: Yes that was a funny story, although I didn?t learn of all the details until much later. Arthur phoned and asked us to come to Florida as soon as possible to examine and test an improvement he had made to his pullover machine.

Red was in the middle of getting his instrument rating in flying so we rented a private plane and flew down. And you know how Arthur likes to talk, and talk, and talk? By midnight I had had enough and wanted to go to the motel to get some sleep. Arthur drove us to the motel, but kept talking at least another hour in the car. What we didn?t know at the time was that someone had told Arthur an outrageous story that Red and I were plotting against him. So Arthur decided to unravel the truth.

What he had in mind was to plant a listening device in our room and record our conversation. Kim Wood was working for Arthur at the time, so he had Kim rent the room next to ours. Their plan was to drill through the wall and slip a microphone into our room. What they failed to realize that the wall between the rooms was a support wall of solid concrete. It took Kim half the night to get that hole drilled. He was supposed to turn the light off in his room as a signal to Arthur that the microphone was in place. So Arthur kept us in the car, waiting for the light to go out. When Kim finally flipped off the switch, even Arthur was talked out.

When Red and I got in the room, I was so beat all I remember Red saying was that Arthur reminded him of Howard Hughes. "Hell, maybe he is Howard Hughes!" I replied as we fell asleep.

Kim?s microphone recorded the two Howard Hughes thoughts . . . and a couple of hours of us snoring. That was it ? nothing else.

Arthur finally realized that all his spying techniques and Kim?s night-long drilling were for naught. But he never told me what they had done until years later. Come to think of it, I don?t know if I ever told the story to Red.

You know, Ell, half the fun of these scenarios that Arthur often rehashes, is watching and listening to him as he paints those colorful word pictures. Just thinking about some of them brings a big smile to my face.


JONES CALLS

ED: Yeah you?re correct. Jones was a great storyteller. How did you first meet Arthur Jones?

BC: This is interesting and you?ll be amazed at the connections. I won the Mr. America and Mr. Universe in 1969. Around that time, Arthur phoned Bill Pearl and asked him to come to Florida to look at his exercise invention (the name Nautilus had not been thought of yet). Pearl was busy with another project and suggested that he contact me. So I got a call from Arthur in early 1970, which was the first time I talked with him.

But there?s a foreword to the story. In 1960, there was a movie called Macumba Love. I can?t remember what the movie was about except it starred a big-busted woman by the name of June Wilkerson. I was about 13 at the time.

Arthur also saw the movie, which, in turn, gave him the idea of making a film along those same lines. At the time Arthur was living in Slidell, Louisiana. He came up with a title for the project ? Voodoo Swamp. He wanted a big bodybuilder to play a monster so he contacted John Grimek for some names and numbers. John recommended that he get in touch with Bill Pearl. Bill agreed to participate so he came down to Slidell for a month of filming.

I?m not sure Voodoo Swamp was ever released. I begged Arthur to let me see what he had of it, but we never got around to digging it out and having a look.


NAUTILUS AND PUMPING IRON

ED: Those were unusual connections. Interestingly, Macumba Love made it to Texas, because I remember seeing it at my local theater when I was a teenager and Pearl mentions Voodoo Swamp, and even has some photos from it, in his latest book.

How much of an impact did Jones and his Nautilus machines have on the fitness business in the 1970s and 1980s?

BC: In my opinion, two things occurred to bring about the beginning of the fitness revolution. One was the invention of the Nautilus machines and the philosophy on how to use them most productively, which was a radical departure from everything that been accepted before. Two was the movie, Pumping Iron, which created an interest in bodybuilding. Not the best impression, but enough for people to think it was cool to go to a gym.

Arthur Jones was the only person in strength training to create something new that was actually better than the old. Granted there were a lot of other companies to come along and build good exercise machines. But they were all patterned to some degree from Jones?s original Nautilus machines.

Not only did Arthur provide the tools, but he gave you a clear explanation of how to use the them. As he progressed in his research he always kept you informed on what was result-producing and what was a waste of time.

The thing that interested me the most was his research on eccentric or negative exercise. From everything that I have read it?s the most effective way to train to increase strength, muscle girth, and flexibility. I wish that Arthur would have continued and developed a complete line of negative machines to train on. I wanted to do that during the years that I was with Body Masters.

You attend the trade shows today and everyone has good equipment, but it?s all basically the same. So it becomes nothing but a price war ? who can sell the same equipment for a little less. No one is making any money and no one is seriously buying because the equipment does not wear out and there is nothing new, and nothing to excite the public. The first company that develops a line of eccentric equipment will breathe new life into the fitness industry.


VIATOR?S POTENTIAL

ED: Since Jones worked closely with Casey Viator, who grew up near you in Louisiana, when did you first meet Viator? Could you recognize then that he had the makings of a future Mr. America?

BC: I first met Casey when he was 13. He had amazing muscle maturity for his age. I knew that if he stuck with it he would be a champion, since he had incredible genetics. Red and I paid Casey?s way to the 1970 Mr. America contest. Even though Chris Dickerson won, Casey was the one that everybody was talking about. In fact, I took Casey over and introduced him to Arthur, who had his first Nautilus machine on display at the contest.


THE 1980 OLYMPIA

ED: You competed in the 1980 Mr. Olympia in Australia, which was marred by Arnold Schwarzenegger entering at the last moment and winning. Mike Mentzer never recovered psychologically from his 5th place finish. Interestingly, you were 4th, Frank Zane was 3rd, and Chris Dickerson was 2nd. Looking back now, how do you view what happened? Did Schwarzenegger deserve to win?

BC: I don?t believe for one minute that the result would have been the same had the contest been held in the USA. Also, if there had been a qualified judging panel the outcome would have been different. I will say this, Ben Weider has been true to his word. Not a single member of that panel has ever judged a Mr. Olympia since!

I think it was a gross mistake on Arnold?s part. That was right before he first appeared in the Conan movies. Perhaps he thought winning the title would help his movie career. It was a wrong move. People have short memories and all is forgotten by now. But to answer your question, he did not deserve to win. If memory serves me right, Tom Platz placed 8th and he was better than Arnold that night. I?m sure if you asked Arnold now if he would do it again, he would say . . . NO!


GOVERNOR SCHWARZENEGGER

ED: Have you talked with Schwarzenegger since he was elected governor of California? What?s you take on Arnold?s political ambitions?

BC: I have not spoken to Arnold since he became governor of California. My wife and I, along with Red, attended the memorial service for Joe Gold and Arnold was present. He was not more than 10 feet from me, but with the security, bodyguards, and the crowd, it was pointless to go over and try to see him.

George W. Bush winning the recent election is a big plus in Arnold?s future. I know Arnold wants to be President in the worst way, and why not, he has succeeded in everything he has done. It will take an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to make Arnold eligible, whereby he would be the first person not born in America to run for president. I certainly would make for an exciting election: Schwarzenegger running against Hillary Clinton in 2008!


WEIDER AND HIS MAGAZINES

ED: How much of an influence did Joe Weider and his magazines have on the politics that were necessary to win Mr. Olympia during the 1970s and 80s?

BC: I don?t think Joe cared one way or another who won, his magazines still got the benefit. I would like to state one thing very clearly. If it had not been for Wayne DeMilia there would be no professional bodybuilding. He and he alone deserves all the credit of organizing, staging, promoting, and working with the athletes to create a successful division. I am not sure what happened and I don?t know the story as to why this past year his position was terminated in the IFBB. But there is no arguing with the fact that for the last 30 years, pro bodybuilding owes him a lot.

There is no doubt that Arnold and Mike Mentzer were Joe?s favorites, and yet Mike never won the Olympia. On the other hand, I know that Joe cared little for Chris Dickerson and Samir Bannout and yet they were both Olympia winners.


AAU & IFBB

ED: Once you became an IFBB professional competitor, didn?t you miss some of the kinder-and-gentler surroundings of the AAU contests of the 1960s?

BC: Yes, there was a difference, but not as much as you might think. When I went over to the IFBB, you must remember there was still very little money involved. All of us loved what we were doing and would have done it even if there were no money involved. We were all friends and would help one another out. In fact, as I mentioned earlier, that was what attracted me to powerlifting. Those guys were eager to offer you advice.

Today with the big contracts, it?s possible for a top pro to make upwards of a million dollars a year. And I am very happy for them. But it is more of a business today. I remember hearing a comment by Flex Wheeler that once he retired from bodybuilding he would never go into the gym again. That is just beyond me, the enjoyment is in the training. I guess that is why these guys do not stay in the sport as long as I did.


A MEETING TO REMEMBER

ED: Do you remember that 1983 meeting we were involved in Arthur Jones?s office in Florida . . . which included Joe Weider, Terry Todd, Vic Tanny, and Mike and Ray Mentzer? Jones seemed determined to put a little scare into Weider, didn?t he?

BC: That was a very interesting meeting. That was one thing today that I wish we had taken the time to video or at least record. To this day, I am not sure why Joe Weider came down to Florida. I still laugh about Arthur driving all over town looking for a pharmacy so that Joe could buy "Tucks." Joe had just had an eye lift, and the doctor told him to put the Tuck pads over his eyes to keep the swelling down. As you know, those pads are used for hemorrhoid treatment!

Vic Tanny was a regular in those days as he lived over in Daytona Beach. I remember when Weider heard that Tanny was coming up the stairs, all of a sudden Joe jumps up, spreads his shoulders and lats as far out as they would go, sucks his stomach and sticks out his chest. He held that pose until Vic came into Arthur?s office and they shook hands. That get-together started about three in the afternoon and when I left Arthur?s office about 10:30 that night the meeting was still going strong. Boy there was some tall tales that night. But it is still a mystery to me why Joe was there?

ED: Boyer, don?t you recall that Weider visited Jones in 1983 because he was trying to persuade Nautilus to advertise in Muscle & Fitness? To sweeten the deal, Joe offered to give Nautilus 4 pages of articles each month in his magazine. Arthur, being the sly fox that he was, said he would consider advertising if Joe would give Nautilus, not 4 pages, but 32 pages. Maybe Joe would have agreed to 8 pages, but 32 pages would have consumed half of his publication. Of course, all Jones wanted to do was impress Weider with his headquarters, airplanes, ranch, crocodiles, and elephants. Deep down, he had no intention of working with Weider in any way.

Speaking of magazines, what?s happened to them today? When we were getting started in the late 1950s and early 1960s, you could actually be inspired by some of the bodybuilding articles and photos that were published. There was a month-to-month excitement then that?s missing now. Can anything be done to improve the situation?

BC: Com?on, we can?t be getting that old. I think that perhaps the reason you don?t find the muscle publications exciting any more, is that other things have more importance in your life. I don?t read most of the magazines anymore. I still get Iron Man each month, only because John Balik is kind enough to send it to me. There are so many supplements advertised in it that it?s a chore to find the monthly articles.

The bottom line: Training still has to be taken seriously. It doesn?t matter if it?s done with barbells, the latest exercise machines, or a sack of rocks, you still have to workout consistently. The most common question I hear in the gym is "What do I take to get big?" No one talks about training hard. You can take all the steroids you want, but you still have to make progress in your workouts. Most people are not willing to do that.


BIG ARMS

ED: Boyer, what?s the most result-producing arm routine you?ve ever experienced?

BC: I wish I could describe a super-arm routine that would work for everyone. For me, anything that I did for my arms worked well. I could do chins and my biceps would pump up. Triceps extensions with dumbbells or a barbell made my triceps respond. In fact, any elbow flexion or elbow extension movement made my arms bigger. One set to failure, super sets, pre-exhaustion, stage reps ? fast or slow speeds ? they all stimulated my arms.

But here?s the kicker . . . just as anything I did seemed to work well for my arms, everything I did for my abdominals seemed NOT to work. Thank goodness, I always had a small waist, because I could never build good abs. I just had poor abdominal potential.

ED: Boyer, your arms were so impressive that few observers ever noticed your abdominals. I remember putting you through an arm cycle in 1983 that involved a very slow, 1-repetition chin-up. You were, and still are, the only man I?ve ever trained who did 60-seconds up and 60-seconds down, the first time you attempted it. How do you rate chin-ups as bodybuilding exercises?

BC: I have always appreciated chinning; most people in the gym don?t really do this exercise anymore and rely on the pulldown for lat and biceps development. I started doing chins when I was about 10 years old. There was a time when I could easily chin myself with either arm a couple of times. My chin-up inspiration was John Gourgott. I recall watching John, while weighing at least 195 pounds, as you noted in your HIT book, do one-arm chins with either hand and perform 3 or 4 repetitions. What amazing arm strength he had!


THE SECRET REVEALED!

ED: Here?s a final question. Removing yourself from the shuffle, what?s your 1-2-3 rankings of champion bodybuilders, say prior to 1980 and after 1980?

BC: Of course, this is just my opinion. Bill Pearl and Sergio Oliva were the two best I ever saw coming up. I will always remember seeing Sergio for the first time in 1966. He only weighed 196 pounds. But each of his thighs was 29 inches and his waist was 27 inches. His shoulder width was so great and his waist was so small that even after you saw him you still could not believe he was real.

After 1980, the best are the current champs of today: Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler. Then, if you back up a dozen years or so, Bertil Fox would be at the top. Then, there?s the guy who I felt was blessed with the best genetics of anyone: Paul Dillet. Paul had everything but the secret. He had shoulders better than Sergio and a smaller waist than Sergio. He possessed outstanding calves, even though he never worked them. But he didn?t have the secret he needed to succeed. Other outstanding guys, Dorian Yates ? he understood the secret ? and, of course, Lee Haney, did too.

Now, I?m sure everyone wants to know my take on the secret of successful bodybuilding. Ell, I know you figured it out long ago. The secret to bodybuilding, or anything in life worth accomplishing, is EFFORT.

The daily EFFORT that is required ? week after week, month after month, year after year ? to achieve and sustain your goals.

That is one of the things that I always admired about you: your persistent EFFORT. For the year that I was at Nautilus in Florida, and the many times that I came by your office to just visit, you were always in there, quietly working . . . chipping away on a project.


PERSISTENT EFFORT

I appreciate that coming from you, Boyer. And I truly appreciate all the times that we?ve spent discussing our mutual interests, including this question-and-answer session. I believe that PERSISTENT EFFORT is a pretty good description of both of our lives.

I hope you and I ? as well as many other trainees ? continue exploring and applying the secret of PERSISTENT EFFORT.
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