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MikaelPR

Notice most of the old bodybuilders discussed in the new book were well under 6 feet tall.

Were there any taller successful bodybuilders during this time?
Mike
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Ellington Darden

I can't think of a single successful bodybuilder, who won a major contest, who was over 6 feet tall. Now, we're talking about champions from the Golden Age, from 1947-1985.

I take that back, one comes to mind: Charles Estes from Tennessee. He was 6'3" tall and weighed 225 pounds. He placed high in several Mr. America contests in the 1960s. But he didn't win.

Surely, there are a few?

Ellington

PS: Maybe Kim Wood, Dr. Ken, and others can think of
more?
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logicbdj

Ontario, CAN

Rolf Mueller (sp?) was 6'5" or a bit taller, and he won the Mr. Universe, and portrayed Conan in the TV series. Ferrigno must have been at least 6 feet tall.
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Ciccio

Arnold maybe? ;)

Franco
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marcrph

Portugal

It's sad how soon we forget the greatest bodybuilder of ALL time!

Mr. Steve Reeves (6 ft. 1 in.)
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Ellington Darden

I didn't forget about Reeves. I stood next to him in 1978 and there were mirrors on both sides of the gym. We were exactly the same height. My height was 5' 11.5". Maybe he was a little taller in his prime, but I doubt that he was ever 6' 1" tall.

Ellington
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k38wood

I've met Reg Park a few times in Cincinnati(Reg's son, Jon-Jon's best friend runs an alternative medical facility for one of the big HMO's here
and Reg and his wife visit him once or
twice a year...) and he seems to be
six one or six two.

There was this big guy named Dan Howard
who briefly worked for Arthur in the early days...he was huge(maybe six-five) and was a
competitive bodybuilder...and an actor
(Eiger Sanction)...

He left Florida the week I got there. I was told he couldn't take Arthur needling him all the time and left for the West coast. He's pictured in the new book on page 130 spotting for Casey.
I remember sitting with Arthur at
the Jr. Mr. America contest in Baytown,
Texas (which Casey won) and laughing at
Arthur laughing at Dan Howard's posing
routine(it was a classic moment).
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marcrph

Portugal

While speaking specifically about height, a little known/published fact is the value of regular exercise in maintaing height as one ages. Here is the data:

http://content.karger.com/...ArtikelNr=22170
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Ellington Darden

Kim,

Yeah, I know Dan Howard and I competed against him several times. He was certainly taller than 6 feet, but I would not classify him as a Champion Bodybuilder of the Golden Age . . . and neither would you.

Ellington
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Ciccio

Ellington Darden wrote:
I didn't forget about Reeves. I stood next to him in 1978 and there were mirrors on both sides of the gym. We were exactly the same height. My height was 5' 11.5". Maybe he was a little taller in his prime, but I doubt that he was ever 6' 1" tall.

Ellington


Any opinion about Arnold? I think he listed his height as 6'2" but hear alot that this was exaggerated too, But maybe he was/is at least 6'even?

Franco

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Ciccio

Ralf Moeller:

http://www.ralf-moeller.de/.../mruniverse.php

I saw him in many german tv-shows and side to side with people don't need to exaggerate their height. I think he's at least my height (6'4"), maybe more.

Sympathic guy, anyway.

Franco
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Bill De Simone

New Jersey, USA

isn't Dan Howard the one who suggested "why not restrain the thighs?" in an old Iron Man article, by Jones, where Jones is talking about prototype squat machines?

If I remember right, the article was about a machine design that would combine a knee extension and what would later be called a "low back" --a completely rotary squat machine.

Which I now realize has nothing to do with over 6 ft Golden Age bodybuilders, sorry about that.
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Ellington Darden

Franco,

I've been next to Arnold a time or two. He's slightly taller than I am, so he's probably 6' even.

Ellington
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Ellington Darden

Bill De Simone wrote:
isn't Dan Howard the one who suggested "why not restrain the thighs?" in an old Iron Man article, by Jones, where Jones is talking about prototype squat machines?

If I remember right, the article was about a machine design that would combine a knee extension and what would later be called a "low back" --a completely rotary squat machine.

Which I now realize has nothing to do with over 6 ft Golden Age bodybuilders, sorry about that.


Bill,

You are correct. That's the same Dan Howard.

Ellington

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HeavyHitter32

Regarding Ferrigno, I stood near him once and he's probably 6'2" or 6'3" tops. I'm 6'2" and was roughly his height.

He's definitely not 6'5" as has been reported.

Just like body part measurements, height too has been exaggerated with bodybuilders.
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JimBryan

Florida, USA

Bill De Simone wrote:
isn't Dan Howard the one who suggested "why not restrain the thighs?" in an old Iron Man article, by Jones, where Jones is talking about prototype squat machines?

If I remember right, the article was about a machine design that would combine a knee extension and what would later be called a "low back" --a completely rotary squat machine.

Which I now realize has nothing to do with over 6 ft Golden Age bodybuilders, sorry about that.


Yes, that is correct about Dan. He did mention to restrain the thighs. When I first met Dan, Arthur walked me around back of his house and said "I want you to meet this guy, he's a small giant." Dan was standing inside of a trailer that stood about 3 or 4 feet off the ground. When he reached down I thought "This guy is a giant." When we shook hands I swear his fingers reached my elbow. He's a big guy. I'm not sure how tall he is compared to Jim Flanagan. He may have been shorter.

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QmAn

The only ones I know

Arnold 6'1
Lou ferrigno 6'5

can't think of any others, but I bet there's damn few.

second thoughts:

Reg Park 6'1

I thought Steve Reeves was 6'1 but reading the above I suppose he was no more than 6'-6'1/2 inch at his peak.

I'm glad cause I'm only 5'9 and I think most top bodybuilders of that era were 5'7-5'11.

Does lifting weights long term eventualy cause more height loss than normal? Ellington have you lost any height since the 70's?

Quentin
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Ellington Darden

Quentin,

Maybe I've lost a little height, perhaps 1/4 inch.

Ellington
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QmAn

People piss me off who say a person is big just because he's tall, youre only big if youve got the flesh on your bones, 6'5 is tall but you can still be a twiglett.

I haven't got a height complex as I'm 5'9 1/2 which is about average.

People say "ohh isn't he tall" like it's some bloody achievement! I mean what are you supposed to say, "Oh, I wish I had the foresight to be tall, If only I had studyied harder to be tall!" Face it if youre over 6' youre a freak.

Guy's under 5'9 are not UPPERTY or PUSHY they just have to be more forceful to get the respect they need. Tall people have natural dominance, short people usually don't, they have to work at it.

Most the best built men in bodybuilding are around short-average height FACT! and in my opinion the stockier under sixfooters look better, Arnold included.

Being tall is not nesscerryly an advantage in life, but most people have been conditioned to think that it is by guess who? tall people!

You can only be yourself, nothing else is even possible.
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QmAn

I remmember once I had very thick insoles, just for a change, my girlfriend said "You've always got your shoes on". My reply was "I've got a medical condition that causes a dramatic loss of height everytime I remove my shoes!".
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Ciccio

QmAn wrote:
People piss me off who say a person is big just because he's tall, youre only big if youve got the flesh on your bones, 6'5 is tall but you can still be a twiglett.

I haven't got a height complex as I'm 5'9 1/2 which is about average.

People say "ohh isn't he tall" like it's some bloody achievement! I mean what are you supposed to say, "Oh, I wish I had the foresight to be tall, If only I had studyied harder to be tall!" Face it if youre over 6' youre a freak.

Guy's under 5'9 are not UPPERTY or PUSHY they just have to be more forceful to get the respect they need. Tall people have natural dominance, short people usually don't, they have to work at it.

Most the best built men in bodybuilding are around short-average height FACT! and in my opinion the stockier under sixfooters look better, Arnold included.

Being tall is not nesscerryly an advantage in life, but most people have been conditioned to think that it is by guess who? tall people!

You can only be yourself, nothing else is even possible.


Are you sure? About the complex I mean...

Franco


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QmAn

I'm just yanking your chain, I can assure you I don't have a height complex.
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STanner

Texas, USA

6'3"+ and fairly lean to start, guess that leaves me out to eventually be golden age material. ;)

Although the great thing if you're tall and have the right genes, a compact waist and wide shoulders are even more exaggerated to look at.
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bdog

I've met Lee Haney in person and he was ever bit of 5'11" as he is listed. I am rather shocked to hear that Arnold was only 6' tall. I had him at at least 6'1". A friend who happens to be 6'5" met Ferrigno in person and said he was closer to 6'3" or 6'4". He also said Ferrigno didn't like the fact that he was taller than him.
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Ellington Darden

Any of you guys ever been around Jack LaLanne in person? How tall was he?

Ellington
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