"Doing more exercise with less intensity,"
Arthur Jones believes, "has all but
destroyed the actual great value
of weight training. Something
must be done . . . and quickly."
The New Bodybuilding for
Old-School Results supplies
MUCH of that "something."
This is one of 93 photos of Andy McCutcheon that are used in The New High-Intensity Training to illustrate the recommended exercises.
To find out more about McCutcheon and his training, click here.
From "3 More Reps", George Snyder and Rick Wayne, 1978, pp 165:
"MIKE MENTZER
Mr. Universe Routine
Monday & Thursday
CHEST
Pec deck squeezes to failure point
Incline presses with barbell (forced reps)
Flyes with cable or dumbbells
The exercises are done for four cycles, no pause between movements.
TRICEPS
Nautilus Triceps Extension to failure
Weighted dips to failure
...For his triceps Mike does three cycles."
Couple of points.
Compared to the rest of the routines in the book, (Arnold, Zane, Corney, etc.) this IS low volume.
And the interview/text portion seems to support the idea of Mentzer doing cycles (of exercises, that is), because he's quoted as saying "3 cycles", not just listed in the chart.
Assuming this is accurate, and not changed by the writers to be more in line with the norms of the day, it's interesting that he later disavows the routines he used when in arguably his best shape, in favor of minimalist routines that were speculative at best as to their effectiveness.
I'd be interested in seeing more of his routine as well...
I was attracted to Mike's minimalist routines when I first stumbled on them, and like a lot of people, found them to be refreshing for the initial phase and then far too little work in the long run.
His Mr. Universe routine looks much more reasonable to me now...
simon-hecubus wrote:
Are there any more MM rotuines in the book, Bill?
Oh, yea.
p 167
"BACK
Pullovers on Nautilus machine
Underhand close grip chins
The above two movements are done in superset style, for two cycles.
Long pulls on cable, 2 sets, 8 reps.
One arm dumbbell row, 2 sets, 8 reps...
BICEPS (I love this one-BD)
Forced reps barbell curl
Concentration dumbbell curl
Preacher bench curl
...done to failure for three cycles, no rest between exercises or cycles.
ABDOMINALS
Leg raises from chin bar
Crunches on leg extension machine (probably a misprint, Mentzer describes crunches on a flat leg curl in the text)
He does three supersets of the two above. Works for burn each time."
In the text portion, Mentzer mentions different exercises, but similiar set-rep-cycle patterns. LX-LP-Squat-two sets of leg curls was the leg routine in the outline and text.
bill,
as i recall, there's a photo of mike in repose that is just tremendous.
if memory serves me correctly, the caption listed mike at about 230 lbs. or so. i use to have that book a long time ago.
jack
Not being a wiseguy, but there are many versions of Mentzer's routines.
The most interesting ones, to my eyes, are the ones from the '70s, which were somewhere between the high volume bb mag routines and the basic Nautilus 12 exercise routine.
I have it on good authority (wink wink)
that "Mentzer Routines Through the Years" will probably never get formally, officially published.
Best bet is to scour Ebay and used magazine shops for '70s mags with Mentzer.
It would be good to have the routines from the Heavy Duty booklets. I don?t know if he used the routines but it would be interesting to know what he recomended back then.
Mike may or may not have used what he endorsed, but being Heavy Duty was in its infancy back then, there were far more sets and Mike was far more liberal with intensity enhancers back in the late 70's and early 80's.
superbeaver wrote:
Do u have to use a torrent to download that file?
I understand your confusion - it got to me as well. Looking again, the site permits both straight downloads of a zip file as well as bittorrent download.
Nach... while I could find my old Heavy Duty booklets and type some of the routines. Considering how infant Mike's stand, and HD, was at that time, it would be a futile endevour. Mike's later works, after he'd trained a wide cross-section of society, 2,000+ people, is a better reflecion of how much less exercise was needed vs Mike's initial approach.
It would be great if you post the routines .
I tried the lastest version of HD and didnt go wery well. I think I need a little more frequency and volume.
I think the way to know if something is good for you is by trial-error and I would like to try what Mike recomended back then and also to see how HD evolved
Ok, see what I can do. My cousin, who's over from England, is sleeping in my old bedroom right now, so I can't get access to my HD booklets until she leaves -- in 3 weeks time. Then I will type up the basic routine Mike promoted, in his hey-day, in his original HD booklet.
Later, Mike and Ray (supposedly) rotated these 3 days a week and did better than training each twice weekly!
Looking back, I did OK with it, so if you are young and can cope with more work -- as it sounds you are -- then more power to you. Just be careful of intensity enhancers, Mike was far more liberal with them in the 70's, which if not carefully regulated could lead to rapid burn-out.
No problems... all the best! Like I said, that is from memory, dating back to the late 70's. I think I am close, but I will still type up the routine when I am able. I look forward to hearing how you go on it?
Thanks Hd and Jn.
It would be great if someday we could have a website just like www.arthurjonesexercise.com but dedicated to Mike Mentzer including all his writings.
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