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powerrods

I read about this on a T-Nation article and it sounds pretty cool. In two weeks you are supposed to lose muscle and feel depressed, train through soreness, and overtrain a lot. Then you take 5 days off and allow your muscles to grow. You train each set to failure as well and are supposed to eat at least 2g of protien per pound of body weight. The actuall article is listed on the home page of T-Nation.com if you want to read it. Here's the workout.

Monday,wednesday,friday- train twice a day

Tuesday, Thursday,Saturday train once a day

Sunday- off

Do for 2 weeks

Monday,Wednesday,friday
Morning workout-
Back squat 5 sets of 4-6
Leg curl- 5 sets of 4-6
note- complete one set of back squats then one set of leg curls rest 100 seconds and repeat until you have 5 sets for both. and do 4 seconds down no pauses and explode up for both.

Lean away chin ups to failure 4 seconds down no pauses 1 second up

rest 100 seconds

Dips in the same fashion as chinups to failure

Evening workout-

Snatch deadlift 6 sets of 10 with 3 minute rests bewtween sets 5 seconds down no pauses 1 second up

Seated dumbell press- semisupinated 5 sets of 6-8 resting 100 seconds beween sets and 4 seconds down no pauses and 1 second up

one arm dumbell rows- 5 sets of 6-8 2 seconds down no pauses and 1 second up 100 second rests bewtween sets.

Tuesday,Thursday, and Saturday mornings

Front squats- 5 sets of 4-6 4 seconds down explode up no pauses rest 100 seconds bewtween sets

Kneeling leg curl in the same fashion as front squats.

Close grip pronated pull ups- 3 seconds down no pause at the bottom 1 second up and pause 1 second at the top
5 sets of 6-8 resting 100 seconds bewtween sets.

Incline dumbell press- same fashion as the close grip pronated pull ups except pause at the bottom as well as the top.

Remember each an every set is to MMF
Eat a lot including 2g of protien per pound of body weight
take 30g to 45g of fish oil a day.







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Acerimmer1

Initially I believed this was based on the two factor theory. Then I noticed that you are supposed to loose muscle.

If I hit a plateau I'd try anything, even this. Luckily I don't have any such problems right now.
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spud

This isn't new. It's just over-reaching. The concept of doing too much and just before you go too far, you back off and grow.

I've never done anything like this, so I can't comment on the effectiveness, but I've read about plenty of programs like this. The concept certainly isn't one that has just been discovered.
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Acerimmer1

spud wrote:
This isn't new. It's just over-reaching. The concept of doing too much and just before you go too far, you back off and grow.

I've never done anything like this, so I can't comment on the effectiveness, but I've read about plenty of programs like this. The concept certainly isn't one that has just been discovered.


Just before you go to far yes. But this plan claims that point is after you loose many lbs of muscle. I've not heard of that before.
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powerrods

anybody think its safe to give it a try?
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Loutwinl

In the past I've always respected and liked Poliquin's articles and training methods but this seems a little nuts to me,and the main question is why?
Loutwinl
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AShortt

Ontario, CAN

Comes off as a half-assed version of Johnston's blitz approach, which he wrote about 6 years back.

Regards,
Andrew
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Bill Sekerak

California, USA

Loutwinl wrote:
In the past I've always respected and liked Poliquin's articles and training methods but this seems a little nuts to me,and the main question is why?
Loutwinl


Not me, I think he is full of BS. What is he selling ?
Snake oil and books ?

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Acerimmer1

AShortt wrote:
Comes off as a half-assed version of Johnston's blitz approach, which he wrote about 6 years back.

Regards,
Andrew


BIG BEYOND BELIEFS 4lbs in 10 days program is also very similar, thats over 10years old. It even includes protein starvation but you are supposed to maintain your bodyweight during the overtraining phase with BBB's prog (thats the important difference here).
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Acerimmer1

powerrods wrote:
anybody think its safe to give it a try?


Safe as in it probably will not lead to a requirement for medical attention. Or safe I can you will definately add 5lbs of muscle?
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powerrods

i meant safe as it will add muscle, not necessarilly 5 pounds but still a significant amount, also safe as in i wont permanantly lose muscle
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Butters

Bill Sekerak wrote:

Not me, I think he is full of BS. What is he selling ?
Snake oil and books ?




One question he needs to answer is just how much muscle do you think a person can possibly lose after overtraining for two weeks? Probably not as much as he wants to claim.
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Raider22

Ohio, USA

AShortt wrote:
Comes off as a half-assed version of Johnston's blitz approach, which he wrote about 6 years back.

Regards,
Andrew


Electricity, Ben Franklin my ass! Brian Johnson discovered it about 3 years before him.

Anything that Brian Johnson has done somebody in their garage or basement did it 20 years ago.

Please stop with this crap. That's the ticket.
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AceHIT

Bullshit is bullshit, whether its called Super Accumulation, Super Compensation of Super Masturbation.

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NewYorker

New York, USA

Raider22 wrote:
AShortt wrote:
Comes off as a half-assed version of Johnston's blitz approach, which he wrote about 6 years back.

Regards,
Andrew

Electricity, Ben Franklin my ass! Brian Johnson discovered it about 3 years before him.

Anything that Brian Johnson has done somebody in their garage or basement did it 20 years ago.

Please stop with this crap. That's the ticket.


ditto

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Gazz

I tried this (or should I say a "hybrid" incorporating the same principles) a few weeks ago.

First, get a couple of facts straight.

Poliquin did not claim to have invented this, nor did Chad Waterbury who published a similar article on T-Nation around the same time. Equally so neither author mentions Brian Johnson as a source as I would guess that, as a few have already pointed out, this technique (like most) will have been arouund for many years.

Poliquin "The idea of planned overtraining isn't new. I didn't invent this; many have come to these same conclusions. Some have stumbled upon the idea by shear accident........Pierre Roy, one of my earliest mentors in weightlifting methodology, once said that unless athletes start complaining of tendonitis, they're not training hard enough. They should train until they're literally depressed, then back off"

Did I shrivel up to nothing... far from it. I really enjoyed the training as a change of pace/emphasis. Hard work, of a type which I would not recommend full time, but the rewards were good for me considering the limited exposure.

Gazz
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AShortt

Ontario, CAN

As Johnston clearly points out in the book APEX - blitzing/over reaching tactics are not knew. The point is it has to be done relative to the individual not some canned approach. This is why after APEX came out many (who didn't tactually read it or apply it to the IART RX theory) didn't see significant results.

B.B.er's have been using over reaching (sometimes over training) tactics for a long time. Most found results by accident and just trying to wing it based on feel alone. In the zone material we simply refer to it as cycling demands. That is to say, sometimes I train 3 days in a row, other times I train 2 in a row one off and 2 again, I will also train only once in a week, drop some muscle for a week, take 2 weeks off etc, etc...etc.

Regards,
Andrew
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powerrods

ok.... i tried the first part of it. and i quit. There is no possible for me to do that workout without puking. I just felt so sick. So go ahead. say i have no testicular fortitude. But im gonna have to say then that you should try it yourself.

DOC for life
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medici

Spain

AShortt wrote:
Comes off as a half-assed version of Johnston's blitz approach, which he wrote about 6 years back.

Regards,
Andrew


Since Poloquin has published this routine years back, are you suggesting then that Johnston plagerized Poloquin?
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