MB Madaera
Lost 31.7 lbs fat
Built 11.7 lbs muscle


Chris Madaera
Built 9 lbs muscle


Keelan Parham
Lost 30 lbs fat
Built 4 lbs muscle


Bob Marchesello
Lost 23.55 lbs fat
Built 8.55 lbs muscle


Jeff Turner
Lost 25.5 lbs fat


Jeanenne Darden
Lost 26 lbs fat
Built 3 lbs muscle


Ted Tucker
Lost 41 lbs fat
Built 4 lbs muscle

 
 

Determine the Length of Your Workouts

Evaluate Your Progress

Keep Warm-Up in Perspective


ARCHIVES >>

"Doing more exercise with less intensity,"
Arthur Jones believes, "has all but
destroyed the actual great value
of weight training. Something
must be done . . . and quickly."
The New Bodybuilding for
Old-School Results supplies
MUCH of that "something."

 

This is one of 93 photos of Andy McCutcheon that are used in The New High-Intensity Training to illustrate the recommended exercises.

To find out more about McCutcheon and his training, click here.

 

Mission Statement

H.I.T. Acceptable Use Policy

Privacy Policy

Credits

LOG IN FORUM MAIN REGISTER SEARCH
Weight Question for Wayne
Author
Rating
Options

winstonnmccay

Wayne,
You keep asking everyone if we can do the one arm pullover with the same reps, weight and speed that you do. Most here dont have access to a pullover machine much less a reference point to compare our performance on the pullover to the general population. I'm sure Dr. Darden could pull a list that shows what average and above average performance on the pullover actually is.

Here is my challenge to you: Post a video of you perfoming the squat, bench, deadlift, chin, or dip in the manner you prescribe to.

When you are done ask the question if any of us can do what you did. See your physique looks average on your video and as many others have pointed out the way you perform your set looks like any other gym rat.

When you can do a 30 rep set of deadlifts in such a manner with a fair amount of weight we may have the beginnings of a rational conversation. You should be able to do the deadlifts much faster since the pullover has a much greater range of motion than the deadlift. Though I doubt you could survive such a set with that speed. Feel free to use straps.
Open User Options Menu

waynegr

Switzerland

winstonnmccay wrote:
Wayne,
You keep asking everyone if we can do the one arm pullover with the same reps, weight and speed that you do. Most here dont have access to a pullover machine much less a reference point to compare our performance on the pullover to the general population. I'm sure Dr. Darden could pull a list that shows what average and above average performance on the pullover actually is.

Here is my challenge to you: Post a video of you perfoming the squat, bench, deadlift, chin, or dip in the manner you prescribe to.

When you are done ask the question if any of us can do what you did. See your physique looks average on your video and as many others have pointed out the way you perform your set looks like any other gym rat.

When you can do a 30 rep set of deadlifts in such a manner with a fair amount of weight we may have the beginnings of a rational conversation. You should be able to do the deadlifts much faster since the pullover has a much greater range of motion than the deadlift. Though I doubt you could survive such a set with that speed. Feel free to use straps.



Hi there winstonnmccay,

Sounds fair, but busy today will have to get back to you on the above tomorrow ok.

Winstonnmccay, I am honestly not a show off, quite the opposite, I only posted the video, because some said outright that I could not use these weights for the reps and sets I did, and I just had to prove them wrong, as they seemed so convinced, but them saying what they did really gave me a big complement, now I proved them wrong what do they say, nothing much.

But there are many on this board that have a pullover in their homes and in their gyms, and many that could easy find one to use, and I picked this machine as you cant check in it and so forth.

My physique is above the average person, but I too did not like the little of what you seen of it, just wrong angles and stuff, I was not going to post the video because of that, will try and get a good photo done, as I have none. I am not a huge person at all about 5 foot 8 inches, about 185 to 195 pounds and quite small boned, arms I find very hard, only 15 and three quarts, wrists a wee under 7 inches, but chest is 46 and that with a good back, shoulders, traps and 32 to 34 waist makes as I say make me look the part and stand out, but the video made me look, well you know.

Wayne
Open User Options Menu

sgsims1

Now THAT's a video that would get some hits!
Open User Options Menu

coomo

waynegr wrote:
I am not a huge person at all about 5 foot 8 inches, about 185 to 195 pounds and quite small boned,

5 8 small bones 195lbs? those are pretty impressive stats?
Open User Options Menu

Gazz

winstonnmccay wrote:
Wayne,
You keep asking everyone if we can do the one arm pullover with the same reps, weight and speed that you do. Most here dont have access to a pullover machine much less a reference point to compare our performance on the pullover to the general population. I'm sure Dr. Darden could pull a list that shows what average and above average performance on the pullover actually is.

Here is my challenge to you: Post a video of you perfoming the squat, bench, deadlift, chin, or dip in the manner you prescribe to.

When you are done ask the question if any of us can do what you did. See your physique looks average on your video and as many others have pointed out the way you perform your set looks like any other gym rat.

When you can do a 30 rep set of deadlifts in such a manner with a fair amount of weight we may have the beginnings of a rational conversation. You should be able to do the deadlifts much faster since the pullover has a much greater range of motion than the deadlift. Though I doubt you could survive such a set with that speed. Feel free to use straps.


What would this prove? Taking aside leverage efficiencies, neurological efficiences, fast/slow twitch dominance, range of motion, etc very little.

If we are going to engage in strength competitions then I would suggest totals posted at a legitimate power meet (even then it depends upon judging criteria, assist wraps, shirts etc).

Personally I'm not particularly interested in how much Wayne can or can't lift in particular exercise or how fast his reps are or whether he's using a machine, or how recently it was oiled. Do you really want to encourage another 200 post thread about nothing?

Wayne was man (stupid?) enough to post a video of his pullovers. What in Gods name this proved I don't know but nontheless he did post the video (I don't see many others posting videos of themselves training), and left himself wide open to the inevitable onslaught that followed. Why not just leave it at that.

Gazz
Open User Options Menu

waynegr

Switzerland

Gazz wrote:
winstonnmccay wrote:
Wayne,
You keep asking everyone if we can do the one arm pullover with the same reps, weight and speed that you do. Most here dont have access to a pullover machine much less a reference point to compare our performance on the pullover to the general population. I'm sure Dr. Darden could pull a list that shows what average and above average performance on the pullover actually is.

Here is my challenge to you: Post a video of you perfoming the squat, bench, deadlift, chin, or dip in the manner you prescribe to.

When you are done ask the question if any of us can do what you did. See your physique looks average on your video and as many others have pointed out the way you perform your set looks like any other gym rat.

When you can do a 30 rep set of deadlifts in such a manner with a fair amount of weight we may have the beginnings of a rational conversation. You should be able to do the deadlifts much faster since the pullover has a much greater range of motion than the deadlift. Though I doubt you could survive such a set with that speed. Feel free to use straps.

What would this prove? Taking aside leverage efficiencies, neurological efficiences, fast/slow twitch dominance, range of motion, etc very little.

If we are going to engage in strength competitions then I would suggest totals posted at a legitimate power meet (even then it depends upon judging criteria, assist wraps, shirts etc).

Personally I'm not particularly interested in how much Wayne can or can't lift in particular exercise or how fast his reps are or whether he's using a machine, or how recently it was oiled. Do you really want to encourage another 200 post thread about nothing?

Wayne was man (stupid?) enough to post a video of his pullovers. What in Gods name this proved I don't know but nontheless he did post the video (I don't see many others posting videos of themselves training), and left himself wide open to the inevitable onslaught that followed. Why not just leave it at that.

Gazz


Hi Gazz,

I Honestly did not want to post the video, but some keep asking and asking as to what I could lift, and the progress I made on my interpretation of Johns program, I then told them, and a few said there is no way in the World could I lift those weight for them reps, I proved them wrong, but as you said left myself open.

I know my form and speed was fine, and the funny thing just the other day I looked at Dorian Yates video, and he does the pullover just like I do them, however he was a wee slower at just under a half a second slower.

Wayne


Open User Options Menu
H.I.T. Acceptable Use Policy