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mmtbb

If you are not sleeping well, and need more sleep, will pills inhibit growth. In other words, do you get all the benefits of sleep with pills, or do some of the chemicals that force you to sleep, also inhibit healing, growth hormone release, or your bodies natural building system?
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mmtbb

Ok. It sounds like no one knows this one.

For starters NSAIDS inhibit growth by blocking Prostaglandins release, which is essential to telling the body,"please heal me".

Any others that you are aware of?
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bamiller

Interesting topic. I honestly feel that good sound sleep is probably one of the most overlooked area when it comes to recovery.

There is a massive symphony of chemicals/hormones released in the body during a good nights sleep.

I sometimes take an over the counter sleep aid and have wondered about the same affect. Would you think these inhibit the same recovery responses?
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dhartnet

New Hampshire, USA

I use Melatonin, and I dont think it inhibits growth. Lack of proper sleep I think would be worse than taking a supplement like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/.../wiki/Melatonin
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bamiller

Agree. I take melatonin on occaision as well.
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mmtbb

So has meletonin helped you sleep better?

Also, is there a risk that your body will stop producing meletonin as much if you are self dosing?
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Maximise

Forgive me but, why do so many people insist on using pills to promote sleep! If you use pills you are potentially going to screw up your biological clock. What's happened to reading before going to sleep, eat a banana or even a warm mug of milk ? Both of these have properties which promote sleep. I'm a strong believer that instead of having days and days etc off, get more sleep. I slept ten and a quarter hours the other night and I went to bed early (around tenish). Forget pills and use what nature provides :)
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mmtbb

Maximise wrote:
Forgive me but, why do so many people insist on using pills to promote sleep! If you use pills you are potentially going to screw up your biological clock. What's happened to reading before going to sleep, eat a banana or even a warm mug of milk ? Both of these have properties which promote sleep. I'm a strong believer that instead of having days and days etc off, get more sleep. I slept ten and a quarter hours the other night and I went to bed early (around tenish). Forget pills and use what nature provides :)


HAHAHA, that's like saying, "Why can't you get 20 inch arms? I can!" or "Why don't you just stop getting acne? I don't get have it."

If only nature COULD provide for everyone.

I am actually glad you can get 10 1/2 hours of sleep a night, BUT many people can't. PERIOD! Our body chemistry is all different. Some people are lacking the natural chemical balance needed to get deep sleep of that magnitude. Some of it is simply genetic.

It beats the crap out of you to exercise SO hard only to not be able to sleep well.

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noone

New York, USA

I have had a lot of sleeping problems. My wife and I have a 1 year old and we had 6-8 months of interupted sleep, and were really rundown. I am doing a little better now. Recently, I am experimenting with a new tactic:

Going to bed a little later. It seems like when I tried to get to bed early, I either laid in bed for a long time, or fell asleep quickly, but woke up in the middle of the night and stayed awake for a long time. Going to bed later, for the most part, has allowed me to obtain a deeper sleep state.

The idea came from the same theory we used to get our son to sleep through the night. Run him around until he passes out.

Has anyone else tried this method?

Bret
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mmtbb

Boy Bret,

That is exactly what I noticed. If I go to bed later, I usually sleep through the night, but only get 7 hours of sleep.

If I go to bed early, I fall asleep fast, but wake up at 4:40am. I usually get 6 hours of sleep. What I REALLY need is to get 8+ hours of deep sleep, but don't know how. I am worried about taking pills, but maybe I need to.
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Maximise

I always think of listening to your body. If you go to sleep early and your body wakes you up, then maybe your body says that you've had enough. I can truely understand people who have kids ( ear plugs needed, lol ) as my brother and sister are going through the same thing. The best thing is give yourself time to unwind, trust me after ages of mentally trying to work out the right amount of time in my mind I figured it.
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Growl

mmtbb wrote:
Boy Bret,

That is exactly what I noticed. If I go to bed later, I usually sleep through the night, but only get 7 hours of sleep.

If I go to bed early, I fall asleep fast, but wake up at 4:40am. I usually get 6 hours of sleep. What I REALLY need is to get 8+ hours of deep sleep, but don't know how. I am worried about taking pills, but maybe I need to.


I understand where you are coming from and I don't believe that you are getting up because that is all you "needed". Sometimes it's hard to get ourselves to sleep that eight hours or more once we get all jazzed up and go on very little sleep for many days. Perhaps something is bothering you or perhaps you just got yourself in a "funk". There is nothing wrong with seeing a competent physician and getting a little "help" starting a better sleep habit. The Dr. should tell you exactly what to do to avoid any addiction and if he can't then see another. This may simply be a matter of getting you a few good nights sleep and then having your body take over from there. Get help if you believe you need it and follow all directions and be VERY responsible.
I can tell you that not sleeping is one of the best ways to limit muscle growth. I don't think anyone is going to be able to tell you that taking a sleeping pill will limit growth in any way but getting little sleep sure as heck will. Get a start on fixing your problem to get healthy.
If you go it on your own and opt for an over the counter solution then I will remind you that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" so BE CAREFUL. Don't let an addiction develop and if you have any doubts, don't do it.

Be wise my friend,
Jeff
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noone

New York, USA

Last night, I stayed up until I was tired (9:30). I went to bed then, and fell asleep rather quickly. I didn't wake at all during the night, but woke up at 4:42am. I consider this a full night of sleep for me. 7 hours.

I am going to keep trying this strategy. In the past, I always went to bed at a certain time. Now, I am going to stay up until I am really tired.

Bret
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mmtbb

Do any of you take naps in the middle of the day?
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noone

New York, USA

mmtbb wrote:
Do any of you take naps in the middle of the day?


I wish. I think that would be the solution.

Bret
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