"Doing more exercise with less intensity,"
Arthur Jones believes, "has all but
destroyed the actual great value
of weight training. Something
must be done . . . and quickly."
The New Bodybuilding for
Old-School Results supplies
MUCH of that "something."
This is one of 93 photos of Andy McCutcheon that are used in The New High-Intensity Training to illustrate the recommended exercises.
To find out more about McCutcheon and his training, click here.
Now I've been training with HI since mid September I've felt that there are certainly ups and downs to the training. The ups are that I have made much better strength gains on my lower back, delts, lats, quads and triceps. There's the down side now and I feel it could be due to the fact I need half a minute to recoup as Mike M stated that " if you move to the next exercise before your energy reserves half recouperated your energy will be disminished. This is what I feel sometimes that HIT is almost like a race against the clock and it shouldn't be. I for one don't like super-setting really as I seem to adapt badly to it. As long as I'm not cooling off and just waiting to get my breath back, I'm on winning role.
As is with the beginning which is the toughest as you have to do as little as much as you need to to warm up properly so your workout will go off like a firework. I've recently finished a course with WABBA and learnt some valuable information from them and of course their training is mostly set around HV to which I've never favoured really as it leaves you knackered, but I asked the instructor taking the course if he had tried heavy duty and he said he had but couldn't cope with it or something. Most people probably give up within a few weeks which isn't enough as it takes months and people don't like the real pain. Still, the course was good and I've completed two thirds of it so far.
Has anyone else felt that their HIT needs it's own adjustment to fit their needs as I know people have done it their own way which might not be true HIT ?
Maximise wrote:
Now I've been training with HI since mid September I've felt that there are certainly ups and downs to the training. The ups are that I have made much better strength gains on my lower back, delts, lats, quads and triceps. There's the down side now and I feel it could be due to the fact I need half a minute to recoup as Mike M stated that " if you move to the next exercise before your energy reserves half recouperated your energy will be disminished. This is what I feel sometimes that HIT is almost like a race against the clock and it shouldn't be. I for one don't like super-setting really as I seem to adapt badly to it. As long as I'm not cooling off and just waiting to get my breath back, I'm on winning role.
As is with the beginning which is the toughest as you have to do as little as much as you need to to warm up properly so your workout will go off like a firework. I've recently finished a course with WABBA and learnt some valuable information from them and of course their training is mostly set around HV to which I've never favoured really as it leaves you knackered, but I asked the instructor taking the course if he had tried heavy duty and he said he had but couldn't cope with it or something. Most people probably give up within a few weeks which isn't enough as it takes months and people don't like the real pain. Still, the course was good and I've completed two thirds of it so far.
Has anyone else felt that their HIT needs it's own adjustment to fit their needs as I know people have done it their own way which might not be true HIT ?
So you did HIT from September until ??? And then started the WABBA.
I used to set up the machines free weight and go thought 14 to 20 exersices back to back, full 2/4 to failure forced reps and negatives, but I was young and wild now.
But back say four years ago when I was still doing pretty stick HIT, but on a split, I did not do it like that at all, if I was doing lets say 40 exersices for the full week on a four way split and there were not cycles with mean you have to go from one exercise to the next in less than three seconds I would just do exercise number one, than have as much time as I felt like until the next exercise, this could be from one minute to ten.
But if I was doing a cycle then the weights would be set up and I would go though them with no rest.
I seen NO reason to go thought the exersices fast, as you trying t build muscle not win a race, and if you do them fast you cant put as much effort into the last few exersices.
As I said there is no reason to do them fast as if you do you might build up your stamina a bit, but as I said your not trying to, your training to build up strength.
And f you were to do them fat the stamina effect would be very small, as if you was to build up your stamina you need to do far different training then weight training for building muscles, like a good hard run, hill clime, or circuit training.
If you want to see how fit you are take your resting pulse, that mean when you have been looking around this forum for a while, put some music on and rest even more for five minites, then take, the low it is the better, just took mine at 29, mind you sometimes I do tell lies.
I'm not sure I am understanding your questions completely, but I'll try to help.
In the beginning, I do not think that HIT applies to nearly anyone and needn't be adjusted. This is because a beginner, especially someone who has been a couch potato for a while, will respond to just about anything for a while. It is a safe choice to use any of the Heavy Duty routines (good) or Dr. Darden's routines (better) for a while.
Assuming your goal is bodybuilding, eventually you will get to a point where a few parts of your body are not developing as quickly as others. Arthur Jones recommended a barbell program in the Nautilus Bulletin #2, and said not to make any changes until the person had basically doubled their initial strength.
Many trainees specialize on calf or forearm work early on, when they still need to gain lots and lots of mass. You want to gain in size from your largest muscles to your smallest muscles, generally.
As far as resting between sets, there are several good approaches. Some people want to be able to lift the heaviest weight in each set and don't want the previous exercise to weaken them--these people need a few minutes between sets. Other people aren't interested in the specific weight and want metabolic conditioning also--these people should have less than a minute between sets, maybe even less than 30 seconds.
If you are JUST training for size and strength, then I would have a minute or more between sets. If you are training for sports or athletics, I would try to have less than a minute between sets. Very advanced athletes may have no rest between sets, but this will result in a very intense workout that would need far fewer exercises!
I could get a bollocking for saying this but I would be curious about Dr. Darden's training routine as Mike M was a steroid user ( absolutely no offense to the late Mike as I like his works ) but those who used steroids could get through workouts better. Where Dr. Darden had a great natural physique from the photos I've seen. So I'd love to see a sample of this routine.
Maximise wrote:
Now I've been training with HI since mid September I've felt that there are certainly ups and downs to the training. The ups are that I have made much better strength gains on my lower back, delts, lats, quads and triceps. There's the down side now and I feel it could be due to the fact I need half a minute to recoup as Mike M stated that " if you move to the next exercise before your energy reserves half recouperated your energy will be disminished. This is what I feel sometimes that HIT is almost like a race against the clock and it shouldn't be. I for one don't like super-setting really as I seem to adapt badly to it. As long as I'm not cooling off and just waiting to get my breath back, I'm on winning role.
As is with the beginning which is the toughest as you have to do as little as much as you need to to warm up properly so your workout will go off like a firework. I've recently finished a course with WABBA and learnt some valuable information from them and of course their training is mostly set around HV to which I've never favoured really as it leaves you knackered, but I asked the instructor taking the course if he had tried heavy duty and he said he had but couldn't cope with it or something. Most people probably give up within a few weeks which isn't enough as it takes months and people don't like the real pain. Still, the course was good and I've completed two thirds of it so far.
Has anyone else felt that their HIT needs it's own adjustment to fit their needs as I know people have done it their own way which might not be true HIT ?
I am still new to HIT, but it seems from all that I've read from the various discussions here, you would have to introduce minor variations due to your individual circumstances. I train on my Bow Flex and a few other equipment and because the machine I have is older and doesn't allow me to switch excercises fast enough, I can't go immediately from one to the other.
Just to change from a say leg extension and put on a squat bar and adjust the tension rods takes several minutes. Because of this my routines go around 40 minutes or more. Not strict HIT.
I agree, I feel its a race against the clock too. However I stick to smooth, focused reps and to bring them the muscles to fatigue. It hurts and is tiring, but my results have been well worth it. I think strict form is the most important thing.
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