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Basselope

Ok, I'm still a total noob to HIT, but everyone was so damned helpful the last time I asked a question, I thought I would post another. Tonight is going to be my 3rd workout and I'm following the plan of Dr. Darden in his book, "The New High Intensity Training: The Best Muscle-Building System You've Never Tried".

Most of my muscles hurt when I get towards the end, but I'm able to push through the pain to go to momentary muscle failure. However, I'm having a huge problem with doing leg extensions. The pain is more than I can stand and I have to stop way too early. This makes me mad because I would really like to do this as hard as possible.

I guess my question is what is it that might be so different about doing this exercise that causes my muscles to burn so much and is there something I can do to get around it? I had this problem with my legs doing HVT as well, but it was easier to overcome since I wasn't going to failure.

Thanks everyone.
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Yes

I used to have this problem also. Leg extensions are just extremely painfull. Why? I don't know.

If you give it some time I believe you will get used to them. I have. Just try to push a little step further each workout and soon I think you will notice much less pain

One thing I have noticed is also that if you push yourself far enough most of the pain will go away. It's like it only goes to a certain limit, and after that you can do pretty much whatever you like - drop sets, negatives, rest-pause, etc.
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NewYorker

New York, USA

Applying cold (for example ice) to the quads before leg extensions will lessen the pain.
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pyro13g

Ohio, USA

Just keep at it. You will start to get more reps before the burn gets intense. Then be able to add weight. I had the same issue and it lessened over time. You may want to read up on Creatine .
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joshpuck

North Carolina, USA

Leg extensions are the most painful for everyone I think. Instead of focusing on failure just focus on getting a little bit more each week. That in itself will be upping the intensity weekly and you'll see some gains in strength and pretty soon you'll be knocking at failure's door.

Other things is to focus on something else. As obvious as it sounds it's not easy as you've seen. Focus on breathing in and out and moving your leg in perfect form. Try to mentally "be somewhere else" you know? Maybe google some techniques women use in child birth? Really. The breathing they do is mainly (I would think) to help with pain and to keep focus on the pushing.

Good luck!
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Larry T

North Carolina, USA

Another thing to consider is that you only have to endure it for approximately 60 seconds. Tell your self that you can tolerate anything for just 60 seconds.
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bdog

Another thing to consider is its possible your quads have a predominance of fast twitch muscle fibers. If you are doing high reps on leg extensions, that can be extraordinarily painful.
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Butters

Larry T wrote:
Another thing to consider is that you only have to endure it for approximately 60 seconds. Tell your self that you can tolerate anything for just 60 seconds.


It's not even that when you consider that at least the first half of the set probably doesn't hurt much.

To the OP: Just tell yourself that the pain is a good thing. If you can work through it in your sets know that you'll reach new levels of progress.
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Basselope

pyro13g - I'll take a look at creatine. I'm trying to lose weight right now though and I'm already consuming about 2200-2300 calories a day, which puts me between a 750-1,000 calorie a day deficit. I'm a little concerned at the extra calories I would get from taking creatine.

The other thing is that even with that many calories, I'm still hungry. To give you an idea, I'm 5'10" and 240lbs. I'm probably in the 30% body fat percentage right now so it's fairly important that I keep dropping the weight.

This Monday will be 4 weeks of me dropping weight and I'm down 11 pounds so far, so I know I'm on the right track. I have lifted before as well, so right now, I'm getting back some of the strength I have lost.

joshpuck - Thanks for the heads up on leg extensions being painful for everyone. I wasn't sure if that was the case. I've been doing some serious breathing with most of my exercises to get me through them. I'll look into Chi Kung or something and see if that might help me with my breathing more.

Larry T - I try really hard to push through the pain, but I'm not necessarily a "tough guy". At least when I have to inflict it on myself. I think that a training partner would help with this to some degree as they could give me encouragement and push me harder. 60 seconds in agony seems like forever is my biggest problem.

To those I didn't mention, thanks for the feedback. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the help for the new guy...or at least one of the new guys over here at Dr. Darden.
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Acerimmer1

Basselope wrote:
Ok, I'm still a total noob to HIT, but everyone was so damned helpful the last time I asked a question, I thought I would post another. Tonight is going to be my 3rd workout and I'm following the plan of Dr. Darden in his book, "The New High Intensity Training: The Best Muscle-Building System You've Never Tried".

Most of my muscles hurt when I get towards the end, but I'm able to push through the pain to go to momentary muscle failure. However, I'm having a huge problem with doing leg extensions. The pain is more than I can stand and I have to stop way too early. This makes me mad because I would really like to do this as hard as possible.

I guess my question is what is it that might be so different about doing this exercise that causes my muscles to burn so much and is there something I can do to get around it? I had this problem with my legs doing HVT as well, but it was easier to overcome since I wasn't going to failure.

Thanks everyone.


Have somebody stand behind you with instructions to pour a protein shake on your head if you wimp out. Humiliation is the strongest motivator for the bodybuilder personality type.
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MotorFed

California, USA

Just keep telling yourself that the pain is a good thing. You will gradually be able to tolerate more and more as you go. I use the pain as a motivator...when i can push to complete and total muscular failure on an intense set of leg extensions despite the pain, I feel pretty damn good about myself.

In my opinion leg extensions are one of the few exercises that truly show how serious a person is about getting in shape. If I see someone doing a ball-busting set of leg extensions, in good form, I know theyre serious about training.

Anyone can go into the gym and bust a few sets of heavy bench presses, bounce the weight off their chests, have someone spotting them doing most of the lifting. But leg extensions truly test the limits of a person's pain threshold.

Welcome to the board.
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Bill Sekerak

California, USA

MotorFed wrote:
Just keep telling yourself that the pain is a good thing. You will gradually be able to tolerate more and more as you go. I use the pain as a motivator...when i can push to complete and total muscular failure on an intense set of leg extensions despite the pain, I feel pretty damn good about myself.

In my opinion leg extensions are the one exercise that truly show how serious a person is about getting in shape. If I see someone doing a ball-busting set of leg extensions, in good form, I know theyre serious about training.

Anyone can go into the gym and bust a few sets of heavy bench presses, bounce the weight off their chests, have someone spotting them doing most of the lifting.

Welcome to the board.


Most of the guys that I trained were all doing HVT before , if they had been working out steadily before coming to see me about HIT , I would use some kind of pre-exhaust. That is what rocked their world.
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