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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

I purchased my first 6-7 Nautilus Machines from Bill Casto in Rochestor NY. Bill worked for Nautilus back in the day and knows these machines well.

I get messeges all the time asking me If I will sell my machines or if I have leads on any.

Bill has been my best source thus far and is always a pleasure to deal with.

He contacted me recently about his idea to set up an information page regarding some of the old Nautilus machines.

He just put it up. Its small now but Im thinking some of the guys on this forum could help him out.

Under his unique Nautilus machine pictures I will be supplying pictures of my old double pullover and single movement arm hip and back.

He has 3 machines pictured right now. The first one I have never seen.

His website is

http://www.ifr.net/

If you have any rare machine pictures it would be great if you could send it to him. It would be nice for all of us to see.

Also his inventory of used Nautilus is always growing.

Michael
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Bill has this piece listed as an Ab machine.
Looks like a leg extention to me.
Odd though.

Michael
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kurtvf

By coincidence I just got off the phone with him. Great guy and very helpful. I'll be doing business with him.
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torachyna

Maryland, USA

I have nothing to say about bill casto, except this, if you need something or any info., this man will bend over backwards to make sure your satisfied. the thing that impresses me the most about bill, is the time he will spend on the phone with you while others will rush, rush, rush you off the blower leaving you with nothing!!! great guy to deal with. tim.
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Yes Bill has always been very good to deal with. Had he not been so easy to deal with when I purcahsed my first machines I doubt I would be as much into the Nautilus game as I am.

Jim Bryan sent me an e-mail and he also believes the machine in question is an Ab machine AJ was working on.
Thanks for the response Jim.

Michael
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Does anyone know if these machines are real or fakes. The spider cams look real but the movement arms seem cheesy to me.
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

????
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kurtvf

I vote yes. Someone took the time to place a counterbalance on the cam. The leg curl looks very similar to the Gen 1 machine.
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henry_bordeaux

this leg ext., used in the Col. Experiment looks like the same as on the pic.
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Nautilus1975

"Does anyone know if these machines are real or fakes. The spider cams look real but the movement arms seem cheesy to me"

Looks like George Snyder knock off
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

That leg extention does look like the one Casey is on in the picture. Just viynle pads removed for foam ones.

Who is George Snyder. Did he counterfit many nautilus machines?

Michael
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kurtvf

henry_bordeaux wrote:
this leg ext., used in the Col. Experiment looks like the same as on the pic.


Nope, now I think it is a copy. The machine in the pic with Casey is quite different. The sprocket on the movement arm is much larger than the "copy" and look at the steel tube around the base. On the "copy" it looks like 1 1/2"x 1 1/2" square at best. On the machine that Casey is on it looks like 3' x 1 1/2" which is a fairly common tube size for early Nautilus.

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Nautilus1975

kurtvf wrote:
henry_bordeaux wrote:
this leg ext., used in the Col. Experiment looks like the same as on the pic.

Nope, now I think it is a copy. The machine in the pic with Casey is quite different. The sprocket on the movement arm is much larger than the "copy" and look at the steel tube around the base. On the "copy" it looks like 1 1/2"x 1 1/2" square at best. On the machine that Casey is on it looks like 3' x 1 1/2" which is a fairly common tube size for early Nautilus.



There was a Nautilus one with the smaller square stock, but it had a round tube s-bend chrome movement arm.

To me there are several features, but what do I know.
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kurtvf

Nautilus1975 wrote:
kurtvf wrote:
henry_bordeaux wrote:
this leg ext., used in the Col. Experiment looks like the same as on the pic.

Nope, now I think it is a copy. The machine in the pic with Casey is quite different. The sprocket on the movement arm is much larger than the "copy" and look at the steel tube around the base. On the "copy" it looks like 1 1/2"x 1 1/2" square at best. On the machine that Casey is on it looks like 3' x 1 1/2" which is a fairly common tube size for early Nautilus.



There was a Nautilus one with the smaller square stock, but it had a round tube s-bend chrome movement arm.

To me there are several features, but what do I know.


The one with the cam at the movement arm?? There is a pic of that one on Bill's site. He told me he took the pic at the factory.

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Nautilus1975

I guess thats it or one like it, but it was a relic even by the time he started with them. That machine is from 1971. Only built like that for about 2 years or less - unless they special built one or an order after that.


That was a Florida built machine and after that was Dan Baldwin moving the plant to Va and Bill was in Mexia Texas some years later under Warren Dew and later Gary Jones.

Those two white ones could be early crude prototypes, but if not they are copies. People love to say they have prototypes, but I don't think they are.

Still, none of them as good as the very last of the first generation machines with red lables - unless you are a collector
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

I would have to say the jury is still out on those white machines.
The other pictues he has on his site are cool. Love that double spider cam leg extention.

I would agree with Nautilus 1975. I still like the first gen machines over anything else and I would imagine the last ones out where tweeked just a bit better then the earliar ones.

Michael
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kurtvf

That machine actually has 3 cams! The cam inside the frame is a double (side by side) cam. Interesting that these cams are fairly circular, wonder why?? Probably why they needed 3 cams for a single machine.
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southbeach

a few years ago i tried to buy any of the Omni Negative machines from a re-seller, he said sorry but lou ferrigno has dibs on any that surface. :D lol

(ps wasn't the gentleman that's topic of this thread)
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torachyna

Maryland, USA

i got 2 omni machines coming sometime this month that the HULK aint getting his grubby green hands on... their MINE!!! tim.
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southbeach

torachyna wrote:
i got 2 omni machines coming sometime this month that the HULK aint getting his grubby green hands on... their MINE!!! tim.


Seated Press and Bicep Curl?

Where'd you find these if you don't mind me asking?
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Nautilus1975

I seriously doubt it is the OMNI chest - they made 10
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

southbeach wrote:
a few years ago i tried to buy any of the Omni Negative machines from a re-seller, he said sorry but lou ferrigno has dibs on any that surface. :D lol

(ps wasn't the gentleman that's topic of this thread)


Im not satisfied, I want more weight, Im going to beat him. lol
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southbeach

Nautilus1975 wrote:
I seriously doubt it is the OMNI chest - they made 10


What Omni's were produced.. wasn't there an overhead press -raise resistance overhead with the legs? The biceps curl was another.. was there a chest press too?
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torachyna

Maryland, USA

the 2 i got are a bicep omni and a tricep omni.anybody out there ever train on these? if so, tell me what i got to look forward to.
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Nautilus1975

"What Omni's were produced"

Don't you know?




Come on "experts" - lets hear it. I am tired of typing.

Sorry
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