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rtestes

Mississippi, USA

Dr. Darden

Do you have a video of someone doing a 4/4 cadence Squat for 8-12 reps to failure?

If you don't have one, does anyone else have one?

I want to see this performed in proper form.

It would be a lesson to all if you could document a full workout in full HIT form on video. Were any videos made of your famous studies like Hudlow. his in a 10/5 cadence would be interesting. If none are available then it is a terrible loss to the HIT community. Is it too late?
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southbeach

A vertical spine and forward facing thighs coupled with 4/4 or above cadence is about as good as it gets for the squat as a device for building muscle and strength.
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coomo

southbeach wrote:
A vertical spine and forward facing thighs coupled with 4/4 or above cadence is about as good as it gets for the squat as a device for building muscle and strength.


Sure is SB.Unless you use the old Bio,bent over bouncing variety!

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southbeach

that's the way my granddaddy does it
LOL
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rtestes

Mississippi, USA

southbeach wrote:
A vertical spine and forward facing thighs coupled with 4/4 or above cadence is about as good as it gets for the squat as a device for building muscle and strength.


Yes it is. That is why I want to see it in full glory, so I can count the plates. I have seen a bunch of yourtube videos announcing themselves as HIT, but none showing a squat, and certainly not a 4/4 squat.

I hope the good Doctor will response on this subject. I also wonder if he ever squats.

Someone, please tell me where I can see a true HIT squat - 4/4 8-12 reps in good form.
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southbeach

rtestes wrote:
southbeach wrote:
A vertical spine and forward facing thighs coupled with 4/4 or above cadence is about as good as it gets for the squat as a device for building muscle and strength.

Yes it is. That is why I want to see it in full glory, so I can count the plates. I have seen a bunch of yourtube videos announcing themselves as HIT, but none showing a squat, and certainly not a 4/4 squat.

I hope the good Doctor will response on this subject. I also wonder if he ever squats.

Someone, please tell me where I can see a true HIT squat - 4/4 8-12 reps in good form.


i am a bit confused.. why do you "need to see it"? Do you think it can't be done? Can't you envision it?

In any event here is a perfect example of a proper productive squat..

www.cbass.com/Squats.htm

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the_iron_goose

Why would you want such a thing? It wouldn't mean anything. You either subscribe to the theory and use the technique or you don't.
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Waynes

Switzerland

There was a great squat video someone put up, think it was of a Russian doing squats, they were a bit faster then 4/4, but the weight was very heavy and they were deep, anyone else remember this ???

Wayne
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southbeach

i don't need to see no russian squat i KNOW how to do it RIGHT. vertcal spine, thighs forward, asstocalves. don't get no better than this
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Waynes

Switzerland

If you have very long legs, you might like to take a power lifting, a wider
stance, but not to wide a stance, with toes pointed out, also keeping the knees aligned over your toes.

This stance, in my opinion will use your thighs adductors more, This seems to be because the thigh shows increased abduction and lateral rotation during the lowering in the squat with a wide stance and then, during the upward movement, adductors are therefore activated, involved more to pull the thigh back to the medial line or plane of the body, and also medially extending toward the middle or in other words rotate it back to a centralposition.

Gluteus maximums and hamstring activation should also increase with a wider stance, It is because, for Gluteus maximums, that this will be due to the positioning of the distal attachment, and makes the gluteus lengthen with thigh abduction,

This lengthening shifts them away from its favourable position on the length tension curve, and so greater activation will be needed to make the
same tension, than a closer stance. More use of the hip extensor should also happen, because wider stance will effects torso inclination.

You can lean forward just a few degrees. Leaning is not too bad at all, its the rounding your back to much that causes lots of the problems with the back.

But some say to keep your back flat or even better very slightly arched, and to help this by looking forward and slightly up.

Also try some flexing, stretching
exercises, but do not over do it. Try to avoid, bouncing out of, from bottom
position, do not, rotate, turn, flex or relax the lumber spine, also do not do the pulling in of the knees inward. Also, to help your squat, you may practice full range dead lifting, standing on a platform.

I know this sounds the opposite of what some want, but for many who have bad balance, and tend to lean forward when squatting, some place a block under the heels, but it will place more stress on the knee patellofemoral joint, if you try this, please with only your warm up weight.

Wayne





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rtestes

Mississippi, USA

I didn't ask anyone for instructions on doing a squat or for still pictures of someone doing a squat. I asked Dr. Darden or anyone else for a video of a 4/4 squat done for 8-12 reps. If no one is aware of any in existenance, fine. And certainly a 10/5 sec squat for 6-8 reps would be nice, also.

There are plenty of HIT exercises performed on machines. But no slow freewieghts it seems in videos.

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the_iron_goose

rtestes wrote:
I didn't ask anyone for instructions on doing a squat or for still pictures of someone doing a squat. I asked Dr. Darden or anyone else for a video of a 4/4 squat done for 8-12 reps. If no one is aware of any in existenance, fine. And certainly a 10/5 sec squat for 6-8 reps would be nice, also.

There are plenty of HIT exercises performed on machines. But no slow freewieghts it seems in videos.



Well, I think you're right. It's your dime.

Sorry I don't have or know of any. Folks never got over us weight lifting types putting mirrors in the gym - videos would have only made it worse.
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Thinkingthought

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hiong3.eng5

Not exactly as you requested, but the link below is the closest, I guess.

http://ca.youtube.com/...h?v=FdAuCKFb9Rc
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rtestes

Mississippi, USA

thanks, 7 reps at about 100 lbs, a bit fast. I suppose that the closest I have seen out there.

I am sorry the old Quonset hut crowd did not have some videos to drag out for us.



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southbeach

rtestes wrote:
thanks, 7 reps at about 100 lbs, a bit fast. I suppose that the closest I have seen out there.

I am sorry the old Quonset hut crowd did not have some videos to drag out for us.





what is your point in asking for this?

youn seem to be making some vague point??
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the_iron_goose

southbeach wrote:
rtestes wrote:
thanks, 7 reps at about 100 lbs, a bit fast. I suppose that the closest I have seen out there.

I am sorry the old Quonset hut crowd did not have some videos to drag out for us.





what is your point in asking for this?

youn seem to be making some vague point??



He's already said, he didn't come here to be interrogated. It's his thread for what he wants. If you want something, how's feel to want - start your own thread.

I see his point.
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southbeach

the_iron_goose wrote:
southbeach wrote:
rtestes wrote:
thanks, 7 reps at about 100 lbs, a bit fast. I suppose that the closest I have seen out there.

I am sorry the old Quonset hut crowd did not have some videos to drag out for us.





what is your point in asking for this?

youn seem to be making some vague point??



He's already said, he didn't come here to be interrogated. It's his thread for what he wants. If you want something, how's feel to want - start your own thread.

I see his point.


your a myopic bird.. what can you see LOOL
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BIO-FORCE

California, USA

rtestes wrote:
thanks, 7 reps at about 100 lbs, a bit fast. I suppose that the closest I have seen out there.

I am sorry the old Quonset hut crowd did not have some videos to drag out for us.


I don't think you will find not only a video, but anyone who really does 4/4 squats with anything over 135#.

The slow pace often suggested to or by HITTERs is more relevant to Nautilus Machines, where the CAM was designed to specs that produced the desired force curve "only" at a specific speed.

This is a type of user controlled isokinetics.

Some HIT enthusiasts transfered this machine speed requirment to be valuable in "all" strength exercises, including complex bb actions like the squat, where it actually retards the biomechanics.

It can be used in some actions with light loads, but does not transfer well to more complex actions.



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the_iron_goose

southbeach wrote:
the_iron_goose wrote:
southbeach wrote:
rtestes wrote:
thanks, 7 reps at about 100 lbs, a bit fast. I suppose that the closest I have seen out there.

I am sorry the old Quonset hut crowd did not have some videos to drag out for us.





what is your point in asking for this?

youn seem to be making some vague point??



He's already said, he didn't come here to be interrogated. It's his thread for what he wants. If you want something, how's feel to want - start your own thread.

I see his point.

your a myopic bird.. what can you see LOOL


and you're a delirious name caller attempting to interrogate someone else now
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southbeach

BIO-FORCE wrote:
rtestes wrote:
thanks, 7 reps at about 100 lbs, a bit fast. I suppose that the closest I have seen out there.

I am sorry the old Quonset hut crowd did not have some videos to drag out for us.


I don't think you will find not only a video, but anyone who really does 4/4 squats with anything over 135#.

The slow pace often suggested to or by HITTERs is more relevant to Nautilus Machines, where the CAM was designed to specs that produced the desired force curve "only" at a specific speed.

This is a type of user controlled isokinetics.

Some HIT enthusiasts transfered this machine speed requirment to be valuable in "all" strength exercises, including complex bb actions like the squat, where it actually retards the biomechanics.

It can be used in some actions with light loads, but does not transfer well to more complex actions.





your squat like your 'barbell curl' leaves a loty of us wanting for better days LOL
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physcult

I dont think there will be many films of BB squats at these tempos because you wont be able to count the plates - because there wont be many!

Pushing up with a 100kgs/220LBs at 10 secs would probably be hard work for a squatter capable of 200kg.Just slow down a clip of someone doing a proper squat, should look the same and then you will see some plates to count.LOL


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physcult

BIO-FORCE wrote:
rtestes wrote:
thanks, 7 reps at about 100 lbs, a bit fast. I suppose that the closest I have seen out there.

I am sorry the old Quonset hut crowd did not have some videos to drag out for us.


I don't think you will find not only a video, but anyone who really does 4/4 squats with anything over 135#.

The slow pace often suggested to or by HITTERs is more relevant to Nautilus Machines, where the CAM was designed to specs that produced the desired force curve "only" at a specific speed.

This is a type of user controlled isokinetics.

Some HIT enthusiasts transfered this machine speed requirment to be valuable in "all" strength exercises, including complex bb actions like the squat, where it actually retards the biomechanics.

It can be used in some actions with light loads, but does not transfer well to more complex actions.





Ha - snap - you beat me to it! :)
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southbeach

physcult wrote:
BIO-FORCE wrote:
rtestes wrote:
thanks, 7 reps at about 100 lbs, a bit fast. I suppose that the closest I have seen out there.

I am sorry the old Quonset hut crowd did not have some videos to drag out for us.


I don't think you will find not only a video, but anyone who really does 4/4 squats with anything over 135#.

The slow pace often suggested to or by HITTERs is more relevant to Nautilus Machines, where the CAM was designed to specs that produced the desired force curve "only" at a specific speed.

This is a type of user controlled isokinetics.

Some HIT enthusiasts transfered this machine speed requirment to be valuable in "all" strength exercises, including complex bb actions like the squat, where it actually retards the biomechanics.

It can be used in some actions with light loads, but does not transfer well to more complex actions.





Ha - snap - you beat me to it! :)


oh so now the desired force curve is designed only at a specific speed? that can only mean you AGREE that when the force curve is closely matched the SLOWER speed creates greater tension and is more productive.



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BIO-FORCE

California, USA

southbeach wrote:

your squat like your 'barbell curl' leaves a loty of us wanting for better days LOL


So far YOU don't have any proof of a Squat or Curl, so you can LOL all you wish, but while you laugh, I am lifting weights.

Grow some balls and post a video of your incredible form, weights, and physique so we can all laugh with you and AT YOU.

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