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marcrph

Portugal

I wonder how much of life's longevity is decreased by exercise.

Why wonder? That is a good question.

To begin with, Rheo Blair believed most if not all people just plain did too much exercise! Ditto Mike Mentzer! Experience shows most people begin an exercise regimen with too much enthusiasm and thus consequently overtrain by a lot. They catch colds, can't think clearly from fatigue, and have frequent insomnia episodes. Finally, John Little has given some evidence that very little exercise is needed for muscular growth.

Researchers now believe that inflammation is the hallmark cornerstone of most of the major diseases. Exercise causes inflammation! On the other hand, many have lived to ripe old age of 100 plus years without any exercise whatsoever. Is exercise overrated? Might I add, no studies show that exercise prolongs life! Kenneth Cooper changed his mind on frequent exercise, and now believes too much exercise can lead to long term health risks. The American Heart Association would have one to believe that 30 to 60 minutes of daily exercise leads to longevity. Would this regimen of advice lead to cancer later?

You see, beliefs of the value of exercise are all over the place. I believe bodily training is good for only a little! Perhaps much better use of one's time could be spent in pursuing other endeavors.
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FortCollinsFan

Funny you brought this up, Landau and I have spoken about this topic many times. My 20 dollars is that excessive exercise leads to premature death, not unlike excessive/strenuous stress or work. My Mom and Dad are right, everything in moderation, but where is the fun in that. To quote Dirty Harry, "Mans got to know his limits". Is it better to live a fast 40 than a slow 80? Well not when your 39 I guess...
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marcrph

Portugal

Landau is a hard core lifter. He is old school to the core! He knows his limitations, of that I'm sure.

Would not it be nice to see the modern company of Nautilus do a study on how much exercise is needed for health. That would be a real "Revolution", pun intended.

Arthur Jones took the lead years ago! Where are the leaders today in the fitness industry! Do we really need another fitness book? NO! We need quality scientific studies! HITers think they might write a book of some note so as to profit. Nothing is new in the industry! Make some news like Arthur did!



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SanSooMan

I think you would first have to deliniate between acute and chronic exercise stress. And inflammation can be good, in fact without it we are all dead. If exercise is carried out too long two pillars of aging increase: free radicals and cortisol.

After about 45 minutes of HIT, levels of cortisol have increased so much that there is little hormonal (HGH) return. Acute exercise promotes right amount of inflammation which in turn promotes the right amount of HGH. Overall life span may not be increased by acute exercise, but functionality later in life can.
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WesH

You guys saw this didn't you?

http://baye.com/...reverses-aging/

Now marathons will kill you.
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Mr. Strong

Exercise keeps you strong and healthy, if you think otherwise walk down to your local shopping centre, you will see hundreds of out of shape people, a lot of whom have decreased mobility, flexibilty and strength and thus have a reduced quality of life, and this only gets worse as they age.

I prefer to be mobile and strong and able to do anything with great ease that others get winded doing, or are just unable to do.

Or you could remove all physical activity from your life and live like a turtle, however you may find your muscles wasting away, sounds healthy.

People who say exercise does not make you healthy usually want that to be the truth, rather than it actually been true, but you can beleive what you want.
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Tom Traynor

WesH wrote:
You guys saw this didn't you?

http://baye.com/...reverses-aging/

Now marathons will kill you.


YES! It did this past weekend in NYC Marathon--along with at least two heart attacks. Think about it: If he didn't run the race, he'd be here now.

Ultra endurance/low-intensity=retarded>>mental illness/compulsion disguised as the pursuit of "health" or "goodness" or "accomplishment".

Ever try strength training "runners"--almost impossible. So, weak. So challenged: "Oh!--it' so heavy/hard...Whew!" Can't deep squat--no glute strength. I won't even take them as clients any longer (Rare anyways as they hide in the cardio-only vacuum). It is definitely NOT about health, wellness, vigor or vitality. Poor things.....

2-3 miles (fast, variable pace) 2-3 times a week: OK--IF you must.
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karma50

marc,
The longest lived people on the planet that we know of (the "Blue Zones" communities) don't jog or bodybuild. they do moderate exercise and activity built into their daily life. they are not obsessed with appearance. They don't generally do really hard repetitive labor, either.

I think Doug McGuff's articles on health and strength training are good. For those of us in moderc urban life, a relatively small amount of intense training is enough to maintain function and strength. I would add some daily enjoyable activity done at a more moderate level. Play with the kids, walk, garden, etc. If you really want frustration and torture you can play golf.
Griff
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summaHIT

Ontario, CAN

When I was young and indestructible, I thought " I am am so fit I will live forever". To make a long story short, I have chronic pain through my hips, knees, low back, shoulders, and ankles. My sporting life actually lowered my quality of life. Longevity? I guess time will tell. I have already had skin cancer.

Before anyone accuses my lifting style for my joint problems, I actually only did HIT during while I ran the 200m, 400m, long jump, high jump, played rugby, football ,and hockey. All those sports and the many injuries including multiple concussions and too many now missing/torn ligaments are the cause.
The craziest thing is that I can dead over 400lbs but can barely get out of bed.
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marcrph

Portugal

SanSooMan wrote:
I think you would first have to deliniate between acute and chronic exercise stress. And inflammation can be good, in fact without it we are all dead.


Why the need to delineate?

You are right in that inflammation is a good thing! But isn't it preferable to not get the "elbow" inflamed in the 1st place!
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marcrph

Portugal

Mr. Strong wrote:
People who say exercise does not make you healthy usually want that to be the truth


Did Arthur Jones believe exercise made one healthy?
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marcrph

Portugal

summa wrote:
When I was young and indestructible, I thought " I am am so fit I will live forever". To make a long story short, I have chronic pain through my hips, knees, low back, shoulders, and ankles. My sporting life actually lowered my quality of life. Longevity? I guess time will tell. I have already had skin cancer.

Before anyone accuses my lifting style for my joint problems, I actually only did HIT during while I ran the 200m, 400m, long jump, high jump, played rugby, football ,and hockey. All those sports and the many injuries including multiple concussions and too many now missing/torn ligaments are the cause.
The craziest thing is that I can dead over 400lbs but can barely get out of bed.


I bet SuperSlow, Extremely Slow Reps, and once weekly training don't sound too bad now?
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Mr. Strong

marcrph wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:
People who say exercise does not make you healthy usually want that to be the truth

Did Arthur Jones believe exercise made one healthy?




Don't know, never met him to ask.
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southbeach

big biceps do nothing for longevity, in case you haven't figured it out yet ;)
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marcrph

Portugal

Mr. Strong wrote:
marcrph wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:
People who say exercise does not make you healthy usually want that to be the truth

Did Arthur Jones believe exercise made one healthy?



Don't know, never met him to ask.


Then, who are all these "people who say exercise does not make you healthy usually want that to be the truth?"

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marcrph

Portugal

southbeach wrote:
big biceps do nothing for longevity, in case you haven't figured it out yet ;)


"Big Biceps" do cause one thing for sure!

Increased appetite!

Guess what?

One can eat much more in a short time than they can exercise off!

Exercise is good for stimulating hunger!
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southbeach

marcrph wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:
marcrph wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:
People who say exercise does not make you healthy usually want that to be the truth

Did Arthur Jones believe exercise made one healthy?



Don't know, never met him to ask.

Then, who are all these "people who say exercise does not make you healthy usually want that to be the truth?"



exercise or activity .. 'running down food' as a caveman is healthy.. but spending half your life in the gym bouncing weight off your sternum..

and the other half eating more of everything..

what's that got to do with longevity and health?? huh?

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McNultyEssex

I think it's fair to say, and Arthur Jones said as much, exercise in and of itself isn't good for you. What is good is the results STIMULATED from it.

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BeauMann

Iowa, USA

Did anyone forget Jack Lalannes 93 year old ass. He may be the exception, but I am suprised no one brought him up.
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marcrph

Portugal

McNultyEssex wrote:
I think it's fair to say, and Arthur Jones said as much, exercise in and of itself isn't good for you. What is good is the results STIMULATED from it.



And............it doesn't take much "intense" exercise to stimulate results!
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marcrph

Portugal

southbeach wrote:
exercise or activity .. 'running down food' as a caveman is healthy.. but spending half your life in the gym bouncing weight off your sternum..

and the other half eating more of everything..

what's that got to do with longevity and health?? huh?



Man did not "run down" anything! He used his cunning and "lay in ambush!"

Just like men do today!

Try running down a deer or rabbit! You'll see quickly!

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southbeach

marcrph wrote:
southbeach wrote:
exercise or activity .. 'running down food' as a caveman is healthy.. but spending half your life in the gym bouncing weight off your sternum..

and the other half eating more of everything..

what's that got to do with longevity and health?? huh?



Man did not "run down" anything! He used his cunning and "lay in ambush!"





if thats the case you'd have starved long ago ;0
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SanSooMan

[and health?? huh?



Man did not "run down" anything! He used his cunning and "lay in ambush!"

Just like men do today!

Try running down a deer or rabbit! You'll see quickly!

Right on, early man didn't hunt the eight-foot, thousand-pound cave bear to extinction by sharpened stick alone. Look at the Kung!, the Masi, all use acute "exercise" tempered with IQ to get the job done.
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marcrph

Portugal

southbeach wrote:
marcrph wrote:
southbeach wrote:
exercise or activity .. 'running down food' as a caveman is healthy.. but spending half your life in the gym bouncing weight off your sternum..

and the other half eating more of everything..

what's that got to do with longevity and health?? huh?



Man did not "run down" anything! He used his cunning and "lay in ambush!"





if thats the case you'd have starved long ago ;0


Spoken like the clown you are!

Quit trying to insert your running fetish! Go post on running.com or wherever people hold a high opinion of running. Running ain't HIT!
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crazeeJZ

You either exercise, and live long enough to suffer with an achy body, or you don't exercise, and live a life shortened by heart disease, diabetes, etc. Take your pick. Of course, there's always exceptions either way.
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