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Paul Marsland

This is what arse to the calves squats can do for you too!.....
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dhitquinn

LMFAO
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marcrph

Portugal

I may need to go vegan too!
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

Oh no, dude. Your knees are all swollen-up from doing all those "azz to grazz" squats!
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Mr. Strong

Why are you all so afraid of the Full Squat?
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southbeach

Mr. Strong wrote:
Why are you all so afraid of the Full Squat?


thanks man. i appreciate it.


why is anyone afraid of FULL ROM?

answer: because you can't GAME IT!

simple.

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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

There are a number of people who do not have the leverage for full squats. People with long femurs mostly. It just isn't right for everyone.

Michael
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jastrain

southbeach wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:
Why are you all so afraid of the Full Squat?

thanks man. i appreciate it.


why is anyone afraid of FULL ROM?

answer: because you can't GAME IT!

simple.


true--very true--delusion is big in this stuff--everyone wants to avoid the simple facts-- that they have to push themselves to the point of pure exhaustion--whereby, you feel like you will die--it works---- but, most would rather create a non-sensical system to avoid the reality--this is why muscle mags are so popular.we all know what really works--you cant game it unless you take drugs--but then again drugs are gameing it--work as hard as you can ,each and every time--tune off the b.s,--simple
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

Michael Petrella wrote:
There are a number of people who do not have the leverage for full squats. People with long femurs mostly. It just isn't right for everyone.

Michael


Not one to avoid hard efforts, I gave full squats a go last year and wound up with sacrum tightness and pain that left me in agony for 2 weeks.

It took 4 chiro adjustments to fix.

I never had that problem with parallel squats. We're not all built for the full-ROM on that movement --- simple.
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Mr. Strong

simon-hecubus wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:
There are a number of people who do not have the leverage for full squats. People with long femurs mostly. It just isn't right for everyone.

Michael

Not one to avoid hard efforts, I gave full squats a go last year and wound up with sacrum tightness and pain that left me in agony for 2 weeks.

It took 4 chiro adjustments to fix.

I never had that problem with parallel squats. We're not all built for the full-ROM on that movement --- simple.


More likely due to incorrect application rather than anything else, too much focus on the weight rather than correct technique.
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kurtvf

Mr. Strong wrote:
More likely due to incorrect application rather than anything else, too much focus on the weight rather than correct technique.


So tell us how to overcome long femur length. I had long femurs since I started doing squats in 1978 and they are the same length and they still cause me to have to lean slightly forward at rock bottom. The laws of physics always trump any attempt at technique. A board under my heels helps but the long femur problem won't go away. P.S. my knees are still fine so no one start the "It will ruin your knees BS" or "What if the board slips"-trust me it wont.
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

simon-hecubus wrote:
Not one to avoid hard efforts, I gave full squats a go last year and wound up with sacrum tightness and pain that left me in agony for 2 weeks.

It took 4 chiro adjustments to fix.

I never had that problem with parallel squats. We're not all built for the full-ROM on that movement --- simple.


Mr. Strong wrote:
More likely due to incorrect application rather than anything else, too much focus on the weight rather than correct technique.


Oh, how nice of you to assume --- which of course means I'm the 'me' part and you are the "ass" part.

I dropped back 70 lbs from my usual squat weight for this effort. The cadence was moderate, probably about 2/2. I even stopped shy of failure, hoping to avoid straining or pinching coming out of the bottom.

I've always done parallel squats with no problem, but my structure apparently doesn't lend itself to full squats.

Your criticism is similar to calling a person with glasses '4-eyes'. You must be proud!
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southbeach

Mr. Strong wrote:
simon-hecubus wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:
There are a number of people who do not have the leverage for full squats. People with long femurs mostly. It just isn't right for everyone.

Michael

Not one to avoid hard efforts, I gave full squats a go last year and wound up with sacrum tightness and pain that left me in agony for 2 weeks.

It took 4 chiro adjustments to fix.

I never had that problem with parallel squats. We're not all built for the full-ROM on that movement --- simple.

More likely due to incorrect application rather than anything else, too much focus on the weight rather than correct technique.


Here come the excuses, Mr Strong ;)
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Ryo

Switzerland

Why compare Strength on an exercise like the squat ?

Do a Deadlift, a Bench Press (or better a Floor Press), a Curl (back against a wall), etc.
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

southbeach wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:
simon-hecubus wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:
There are a number of people who do not have the leverage for full squats. People with long femurs mostly. It just isn't right for everyone.

Michael

Not one to avoid hard efforts, I gave full squats a go last year and wound up with sacrum tightness and pain that left me in agony for 2 weeks.

It took 4 chiro adjustments to fix.

I never had that problem with parallel squats. We're not all built for the full-ROM on that movement --- simple.

More likely due to incorrect application rather than anything else, too much focus on the weight rather than correct technique.

Here come the excuses, Mr Strong ;)


Have you ever trained anyone? I have a friend who was a training partner that was 6'1 but with short femurs. Also a friend of Josh Pitts who trained at my place is only 5"7 or so and watching them squat was a thing of beauty. Right down to the ground everytime.
I assure you though that this is not in the cards for everyone.

Michael
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southbeach

Ryo wrote:
Why compare Strength on an exercise like the squat ?

Do a Deadlift, a Bench Press (or better a Floor Press), a Curl (back against a wall), etc.


Right! Very difficult to judge strength feats over the internet w/o a standard.
FULL ROM is easy standard. If we're all in a gym setting the pin then maybe partials can be a valid measure to some extent.

ps How does one determine one has too long a femur for a proper squat? ;)
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

southbeach wrote:
Ryo wrote:
Why compare Strength on an exercise like the squat ?

Do a Deadlift, a Bench Press (or better a Floor Press), a Curl (back against a wall), etc.

Right! Very difficult to judge strength feats over the internet w/o a standard.
FULL ROM is easy standard. If we're all in a gym setting the pin then maybe partials can be a valid measure to some extent.

ps How does one determine one has too long a femur for a proper squat? ;)


I believe Christian T over on T-Nation came up with the best way I've seen. Involves keeping your nose against a wall and trying to squat down coming all the way and keeping your nose/face glued to the wall. I can't do it. Some can, some can't.
I can't even take a 45lb bar down ass to grass. My femurs push into my hips.

This is why I bought the Frank Zane. It allows me to lean my torso back so I can go down all the way. However this eliminates most of the ability to push with your glutes. Depends on what your goals are.

Michael
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southbeach

Michael Petrella wrote:
southbeach wrote:
Ryo wrote:
Why compare Strength on an exercise like the squat ?

Do a Deadlift, a Bench Press (or better a Floor Press), a Curl (back against a wall), etc.

Right! Very difficult to judge strength feats over the internet w/o a standard.
FULL ROM is easy standard. If we're all in a gym setting the pin then maybe partials can be a valid measure to some extent.

ps How does one determine one has too long a femur for a proper squat? ;)


I believe Christian T over on T-Nation came up with the best way I've seen. Involves keeping your nose against a wall and trying to squat down coming all the way and keeping your nose/face glued to the wall. I can't do it. Some can, some can't.
I can't even take a 45lb bar down ass to grass. My femurs push into my hips.

This is why I bought the Frank Zane. It allows me to lean my torso back so I can go down all the way. However this eliminates most of the ability to push with your glutes. Depends on what your goals are.

Michael


I'm trying to follow this reasoning ..

but your nose isn't against a wall. When squatting your nose can end up anywhere because each body part while squatting is free to move thru space.

can't each of us make the same argument for any exercise? Oh my forearms are too long that's why i can't curl past 90.

Each of us has unique body segments but who in this world can't squat down all the way because of it?
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

southbeach wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:
southbeach wrote:
Ryo wrote:
Why compare Strength on an exercise like the squat ?

Do a Deadlift, a Bench Press (or better a Floor Press), a Curl (back against a wall), etc.

Right! Very difficult to judge strength feats over the internet w/o a standard.
FULL ROM is easy standard. If we're all in a gym setting the pin then maybe partials can be a valid measure to some extent.

ps How does one determine one has too long a femur for a proper squat? ;)


I believe Christian T over on T-Nation came up with the best way I've seen. Involves keeping your nose against a wall and trying to squat down coming all the way and keeping your nose/face glued to the wall. I can't do it. Some can, some can't.
I can't even take a 45lb bar down ass to grass. My femurs push into my hips.

This is why I bought the Frank Zane. It allows me to lean my torso back so I can go down all the way. However this eliminates most of the ability to push with your glutes. Depends on what your goals are.

Michael

I'm trying to follow this reasoning ..

but your nose isn't against a wall. When squatting your nose can end up anywhere because each body part while squatting is free to move thru space.

can't each of us make the same argument for any exercise? Oh my forearms are too long that's why i can't curl past 90.

Each of us has unique body segments but who in this world can't squat down all the way because of it?


You nose does not have to stay on a wall during a squat. Its part of a test to see if squatting is a good choice for you.

Also someone with an extra few inches on there forearm will have a hard time moving weight in a BB curl as opposed to someone with T-rex arms.

Seriously I don't know where you train but there are a great number of people that wont be able to squat like Viator or short femured individuals.

Michael
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southbeach

Michael Petrella wrote:
southbeach wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:
southbeach wrote:
Ryo wrote:
Why compare Strength on an exercise like the squat ?

Do a Deadlift, a Bench Press (or better a Floor Press), a Curl (back against a wall), etc.

Right! Very difficult to judge strength feats over the internet w/o a standard.
FULL ROM is easy standard. If we're all in a gym setting the pin then maybe partials can be a valid measure to some extent.

ps How does one determine one has too long a femur for a proper squat? ;)


I believe Christian T over on T-Nation came up with the best way I've seen. Involves keeping your nose against a wall and trying to squat down coming all the way and keeping your nose/face glued to the wall. I can't do it. Some can, some can't.
I can't even take a 45lb bar down ass to grass. My femurs push into my hips.

This is why I bought the Frank Zane. It allows me to lean my torso back so I can go down all the way. However this eliminates most of the ability to push with your glutes. Depends on what your goals are.

Michael

I'm trying to follow this reasoning ..

but your nose isn't against a wall. When squatting your nose can end up anywhere because each body part while squatting is free to move thru space.

can't each of us make the same argument for any exercise? Oh my forearms are too long that's why i can't curl past 90.

Each of us has unique body segments but who in this world can't squat down all the way because of it?

You nose does not have to stay on a wall during a squat. Its part of a test to see if squatting is a good choice for you.

Also someone with an extra few inches on there forearm will have a hard time moving weight in a BB curl as opposed to someone with T-rex arms.

Seriously I don't know where you train but there are a great number of people that wont be able to squat like Viator or short femured individuals.

Michael


"a few exra inches" on my forearm? who am I Lurch? LOL

can Lurch flex his bicep?

get real ;)
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Nautilus1975

Michael Petrella wrote:

Also someone with an extra few inches on there forearm will have a hard time moving weight in a BB curl as opposed to someone with T-rex arms.

Seriously I don't know where you train but there are a great number of people that wont be able to squat like Viator or short femured individuals.

Michael




I guess my short femurs were the secret to my success on the leg lifting excercises -

There was always an engineer or a kinesiology guy who was always trying to make a case contradicting each theory - guys with shorter arms only have to move the weight less distance -

L1/L2 leverage theory -

people with longer, larger limbs have more muscle mass and can generate more power - etc. etc. etc, the list of theories and old adages goes on and on -


I am right at 5'10" (have shrunk a little from compression ;-) -

Michael - how long are your femurs - hip socket pivot to knee 90 degree bendig center? I wonder just how much length difference could possibly exponentially effect the ROM or the leverage advantage

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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

southbeach wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:
southbeach wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:
southbeach wrote:
Ryo wrote:
Why compare Strength on an exercise like the squat ?

Do a Deadlift, a Bench Press (or better a Floor Press), a Curl (back against a wall), etc.

Right! Very difficult to judge strength feats over the internet w/o a standard.
FULL ROM is easy standard. If we're all in a gym setting the pin then maybe partials can be a valid measure to some extent.

ps How does one determine one has too long a femur for a proper squat? ;)


I believe Christian T over on T-Nation came up with the best way I've seen. Involves keeping your nose against a wall and trying to squat down coming all the way and keeping your nose/face glued to the wall. I can't do it. Some can, some can't.
I can't even take a 45lb bar down ass to grass. My femurs push into my hips.

This is why I bought the Frank Zane. It allows me to lean my torso back so I can go down all the way. However this eliminates most of the ability to push with your glutes. Depends on what your goals are.

Michael

I'm trying to follow this reasoning ..

but your nose isn't against a wall. When squatting your nose can end up anywhere because each body part while squatting is free to move thru space.

can't each of us make the same argument for any exercise? Oh my forearms are too long that's why i can't curl past 90.

Each of us has unique body segments but who in this world can't squat down all the way because of it?

You nose does not have to stay on a wall during a squat. Its part of a test to see if squatting is a good choice for you.

Also someone with an extra few inches on there forearm will have a hard time moving weight in a BB curl as opposed to someone with T-rex arms.

Seriously I don't know where you train but there are a great number of people that wont be able to squat like Viator or short femured individuals.

Michael


"a few exra inches" on my forearm? who am I Lurch? LOL

can Lurch flex his bicep?

get real ;)


AJ discussed this in regards to Franco and Arnold. If you don't want to listen to me then listen to him.

Michael
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Nautilus1975 wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:

Also someone with an extra few inches on there forearm will have a hard time moving weight in a BB curl as opposed to someone with T-rex arms.

Seriously I don't know where you train but there are a great number of people that wont be able to squat like Viator or short femured individuals.

Michael




I guess my short femurs were the secret to my success on the leg lifting excercises -

There was always an engineer or a kinesiology guy who was always trying to make a case contradicting each theory - guys with shorter arms only have to move the weight less distance -

L1/L2 leverage theory -

people with longer, larger limbs have more muscle mass and can generate more power - etc. etc. etc, the list of theories and old adages goes on and on -


I am right at 5'10" (have shrunk a little from compression ;-) -

Michael - how long are your femurs - hip socket pivot to knee 90 degree bendig center? I wonder just how much length difference could possibly exponentially effect the ROM or the leverage advantage



I am 6"4 and have very long legs. I cannot take a BB squat with just the bar down like Viator. I feel squats in my glutes and low back.

I don't have measurements and math to answer your question. Just my observation.

Michael

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notinheritable

If you can't squat "azz to grazz" then don't squat, rather do those pussy leg extensions.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Recently a thread talked about how bad running is for you. I have run hard off and on for over 30 years with no problem what so ever. About two weeks ago I started to work the legs again with plans to eventually end up doing some light squats and was doing a few light hardly any weight warm ups on the leg extension and something popped in my knee. Now it hurts when I run or do just about anything. Imagine what it might have done had I tried some squats? I was better off not doing anything for my legs but running or erging.

Scott
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