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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Well the 2009 HIT conference In Toronto went of this last weekend and it was awesome.

Im setting this thread up so I can share some of the stories and pictures I have and hopefully some of the other people who attended can add to it.

Big thanks to Richard Chartland who was the driving force behind putting it together. The board room he got us for the round table discussion was amazing.

Michael
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Friday Started for me with showing some of the guys various Nautilus and MEDX machines I have stashed all around my place getting ready for moving day.
David Fallenbaum who owns 45+ Nautilus machines gets his first taste of the Omni Bicep. Jim McBride did a few reps on the plate loaded pullover as Nautilus Girl looks on.

Michael
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Across from me and the roudtable was Mike, Jim, Mark and Andrew.
The only downside to the discussion is it wasn't taped. Everything from Traditional HIT, expansion on the principals, variety, diet, DNA, personal experience, bodybuilding and the role of HITTERS in the fitness game was discussed.
Im hoping some of that discussion can be debated and shared on here.
Unbelievable how smart the people who participated were. The discussion would have went on and on if there wasn't a set time frame to get back to the evening show.

Michael
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Group shot taken down in the lobby of the sunlife building.
Big question, where is Josh Trentine?
Just kidding Josh. For those who didn't know Mr. Trentine was a judge for the weekend for the IDFA.

Michael
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

After the evening show everyone got together at Jack Astors for some late dinner. Sorry Mark and Andrew but I had to post this picture.
Mark is getting ready for a second show in NY this weekend. Andrew is now done for a bit.
Mark ordered fish and chips but peeled the batter off. Andrew who was eating everything in site took Marks batter and ate it with his own dinner. We were all laughing hysterically.
Mark then ordered a huge desert which he polished off in record time. Jim commented he could actually watch Mark grow right in front of us with the carb load.
That dinner went on till 1:00 in the morning. Good times.

Michael
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Also for those who don't know the HITTERS did very well on stage. I don't have all the results because the evening show was sold out and I was given Maple Leaf tickets but I do know Mike Lipowski won the open lightweight and was contending for the overall which was won by a heavy weight.

Also Mark came third in the open heavyweight. Mark was clearly competing against steroid users. Those monsters managed to pass a drug test but a couple of them I personally know have taken within the last few years and one of them even put it into print. Good chance Mark may have represented the best TRUE lifetime natural physique in the show.

Michael
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jastrain

Michael Petrella wrote:
Friday Started for me with showing some of the guys various Nautilus and MEDX machines I have stashed all around my place getting ready for moving day.
David Fallenbaum who owns 45+ Nautilus machines gets his first taste of the Omni Bicep. Jim McBride did a few reps on the plate loaded pullover as Nautilus Girl looks on.

Michael


man i wish you owned all the gyms in america.if i could go to any gym in america and have access to the type of equipment that you use i would be very happy.you have truly built the best gym that i have ever seen. a mixture of medx, old nautilus, new nautilus, and rare nautilus that is a dream gym!!!awesome, awe inspiring.
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AShortt

Ontario, CAN

I had a blast, ate like I was on death row after...lol. More later but damn it was nice to spend time with you fellow HITters! Learned plenty..Rick C. is to be commended!

Regards,
Andrew
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Mark S

Michael Petrella wrote:
Everything from Traditional HIT, expansion on the principals, variety, diet, DNA, personal experience, bodybuilding and the role of HITTERS in the fitness game was discussed.


Michael


Hi Micheal

Congratulations to all the competitors. Sounds like a good time was had by all.

I am interested in what the thoughts were regarding 'traditional HIT' (I'm not keen on the phrase) in regard to the many variations that have evolved.

In particular the thoughts of those in attendance on what the failings were,which has facilitated a number of variations and in turn a large amount of confusion as to what High Intensity Training actually is.

Regards
Mark
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Paul Marsland

Sounds like a great time was had by all, and I have to admit I'm a tad jealous....
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jmcb

The conference took place in an office building in the heart of Toronto's financial district. It was about a 5 minute walk from the theater where the IDFA show was being held. It began about quarter to two with Dr. Doug McGuff on a skype call. Doug went over what research has discovered about various genomes and the repercussions for H.I.T. He emphasized that his BBBS recommendations were the average. Some trainers will require and or tolerate less and visa versa. Doug and Mike Petrella discussed how important nutrition is and how natural foods are superior to processed foods. McGuff reccomended cutting back on refined grain products and avoiding refined fructose(corn syrup). Doug's skype call lasted almost 1.5 hours. Everybody agreed to let this segment run over timewise. Most of the remaining time was devoted to defining h.i.t. and deciding if variety was necessary.

McGuff's talk explained the genetic reason for variety being necessary for some. Richard never really expressed his opinions. RC was in complex carb inhalation mode. At one point he turned toward me with a salt shaker in his hand. I shoved my hands in my pockets and tried to look fierce! Alex McFee believes in Mentzer style abbreviated hit routines. He would not compromise. Everybody else felt variety was essential. Especially Andrew! Both Marks concurred. The more experienced the individual,the more essential it is.
Jim
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jmcb

On Friday I met up with Michael,Valerie,and David at a Tim Hortons outside of Brantford Ontario. MP showed us new building. After that we visited a storage site and his parents basement. Mp has got 2 cargo containers crammed full of medx and nautilus machines. I got a chance to try out a medx lower back unit and a hip and back. The lower back unit was awesome. The hip and back I'm not so sure about. I still like my hammer strength unit better!
MP has about ten pieces at his parents. Some are in the basement and some in the garage. We had to pry David off the omni biceps. I got a few reps on my all time favorite nautilus unit.
We agreed to meet at Randy Roachs Gym to workout!
Jim
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Greg Roseman

Virginia, USA

Is anyone going to post photos of the competitors?

Greg
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FortCollinsFan

Michael Petrella wrote:
Friday Started for me with showing some of the guys various Nautilus and MEDX machines I have stashed all around my place getting ready for moving day.
David Fallenbaum who owns 45+ Nautilus machines gets his first taste of the Omni Bicep. Jim McBride did a few reps on the plate loaded pullover as Nautilus Girl looks on.

Michael


It's great to see my old Omni Bicep working overtime. Looks like you guys had a great time. All the Best!

FCF

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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

jastrain wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:
Friday Started for me with showing some of the guys various Nautilus and MEDX machines I have stashed all around my place getting ready for moving day.
David Fallenbaum who owns 45+ Nautilus machines gets his first taste of the Omni Bicep. Jim McBride did a few reps on the plate loaded pullover as Nautilus Girl looks on.

Michael

man i wish you owned all the gyms in america.if i could go to any gym in america and have access to the type of equipment that you use i would be very happy.you have truly built the best gym that i have ever seen. a mixture of medx, old nautilus, new nautilus, and rare nautilus that is a dream gym!!!awesome, awe inspiring.


I appreciate the comments. Just wait for for a few weeks. Im putting my next phaze together. It's going to be very exciting.

Michael

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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Greg Roseman wrote:
Is anyone going to post photos of the competitors?

Greg


Hello Greg,

I know there were a few camera's floating around taking pictures so hopefully we can get them up.
Last year it was James Pate with his very high end camera which took all the great stage shots. Most of are normal smaller camera's could not take decent shots from the stands.

Michael
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karthik2504

Looks like U guys had a great time. Definite jealousy from my end that I am too far away from U guys, living in India. Mike, thanks for the pics. If it were taped, it would have been great for people like us who were unable to attend.

Karthik
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Nautilus Girl

Ontario, CAN

It definitely was a great time -- I know I learned a lot from the discussions (both during the conference and 'offline' throughout the weekend). I'm happy I finished Natuilus Bulletins 1 & 2 before the weekend or I may have been a bit more lost during the talks haha.

I was very impressed by Dr. McGuff's & Mike's discussion on nutrition - it was hard to believe that a doctor & Mike actually agreed -- I don't think that's ever happened before! :P I was also impressed how Andrew, our little instigator, could twist basically any answers into agreement with his beliefs -> VARIETY VARIETY VARIETY!!

It was great to put faces behind some names and get to know everyone. I can't wait until something like this happens again... perhaps when Mike or David get their gyms put together??? *hint hint* haha

I have some pictures from the workout with Mike, Jim and David on Friday, but we used Mike's camera for the Saturday shots, which have already been posted. I am a tad disappointed that Mike L. didn't strip down and pose with the fat man in the Incredibles superhero costume... hahaha!! That would've been priceless. :)

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AShortt

Ontario, CAN

Michael Petrella wrote:
Greg Roseman wrote:
Is anyone going to post photos of the competitors?

Greg

Hello Greg,

I know there were a few camera's floating around taking pictures so hopefully we can get them up.
Last year it was James Pate with his very high end camera which took all the great stage shots. Most of are normal smaller camera's could not take decent shots from the stands.

Michael


As soon as I get a copy of the disc from the show photographer I will.

Regards,
Andrew
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

Mark HIT wrote:
Michael Petrella wrote:
Everything from Traditional HIT, expansion on the principals, variety, diet, DNA, personal experience, bodybuilding and the role of HITTERS in the fitness game was discussed.


Michael

Hi Micheal

Congratulations to all the competitors. Sounds like a good time was had by all.

I am interested in what the thoughts were regarding 'traditional HIT' (I'm not keen on the phrase) in regard to the many variations that have evolved.

In particular the thoughts of those in attendance on what the failings were,which has facilitated a number of variations and in turn a large amount of confusion as to what High Intensity Training actually is.

Regards
Mark


Hello Mark,
Perhaps Andrew can chime in because he was leading the discussion on this topic IMO.

Traditional HIT was being defined more by Alex Fee so perhaps he can give his opinion to.

What I took from it was traditional HIT was very much in the lines of what AJ and Dr. Darden published.

The arguments came with the role of variation and how it relates to the maximum development of a physique. One side thought standardization was the key while the other believed switching several factors on a workout to workout basis was best.

The general principals of Intensity, recovery time, progression where still accepted as the baseline amoung both parties. Means of how progression was accomplished was a hot button issue though.

Michael

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M Lipowski

New York, USA

I had sent this out through the IART newsgroup, but figured I'd post it here for anyone who is not on our list. BTW, if you would like to be added please send your request to Info@ExerciseCertification.com with "News" in the subject. Here ya go:
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A GREAT DAY FOR IART STUDENTS & SUPPORTERS


So...

I'm sitting in Starbucks right now enjoying my Grande Black Eye (their boldest coffee plus 2 shots off espresso...I'm a caffeine junkie) and thought I'd share the AWESOME day I, and some of the IART students and long time supporters, shared yesterday!

Yesterday was the IDFA Canadian Classic natural bodybuilding competition which many of us were competing in and in addition to the show we held a H.I.T. conference. A great deal of THANKS goes to Richard Chartrandwho organized the conference, secured a beautiful board room, and brought the likes of Doug McGuff and Bill DeSimone into the discussion via Skype.


The list of attendees to the conference & competition included:

Andrew Shortt, Fitness Clinician and 2x F.C. of the Year, who competed in the Open Lightweight division finishing 4th, and looking by far his best ever.

Mark Houghton, who made the long trip from across the pond to compete in the Open Heavyweights and Masters. Mark looked like a beast...shredded, full, and hard as a rock. He finished 3rd in the Masters and 5th in the HW's (which was the most loaded class in the show w/ at least one known "NON-NATURAL" in the mix). Regardless, this was also Mark's best ever condition which he'll carry over to the World Championships next week.

Mark Irwin, a long time supporter of the IART was, for me, the biggest inspiration of the show. Mark was heading towards 400lbs. just two-and-a-half years ago an now was standing on stage in the Novice Heavyweights, absolutely shredded. His legs...phenomenal. Just a little work on his posing and a bit more muscle and he'll be making some noise.

Richard Chartrand, our most gracious host for the day also competed in the Master's and HW divisions. Coming in lean and mean, it's amazing what he's accomplished after being a cardiac surgery survivor just years back and to step on stage after all the work he put into pulling together this great conference is a testament to his fortitude.

Michael Petrella, an IART H.I.T. Certified Instructor is a young Superstar in my eyes. Michael is VERY bright and has a deep understanding of exercise and an interesting take on nutrition which he articulates extremely well. These traits made for a great contribution to the conference and some insightful ideas.

Alex Fee, author of Logical H.I.T. is another Young Gun and definitely a "throwback" to the to the yesteryear of H.I.T. and I mean that in the most complimentary way. I have a feeling that Alex will evolve into a phenomenal trainer as he balances his core beliefs with newly discovered ideas. However what I found most impressive was thatthis kid pulled a freaking TRAIN! Look it up on You Tube an see for yourself.

Jim McBride, has been around H.I.T. for a long time. He can definitely be categorized as an equipment junkie and has trained with some very well known bodybuilders over the years. Jim is very much the H.I.T. historian and I enjoyed his conversation immensely.

David Fellenbaum, is currently undertaking his IART F.C. exam and is a sponge when it comes to this stuff. I'm anxiously awaiting his completion of the course and then watching him successfully put his knowledge into action.

Stephen Downes, IART Master Fitness Clinician and owner of Prescribed Exercise Clinic in Kingston, ON was a late attendee but I already know what a great mind this guy is. I only wish there was more time sit down and converse.

Yours truly, competed in the Open Lightweights and won the class. More importantly I finally NAILED my Peak Week and came in the hardest and fullest I've ever been. Just one more week till I too compete at the World Championships with my friend Mark and then chow down, smoke a cigar and drink some Scotch...can't wait!

It was a phenomenal day and I was so happy and privileged to have met and listen to such awesome minds in the iron game and moreover, AWESOME PEOPLE. Already I'm anxiously awaiting the next get together. Hope you can join us!
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M Lipowski

New York, USA

Nautilus Girl wrote:
I am a tad disappointed that Mike L. didn't strip down and pose with the fat man in the Incredibles superhero costume... hahaha!! That would've been priceless. :)



you're right I am regretting not getting that shot :(
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spud

jmcb wrote:
Alex McFee believes in Mentzer style abbreviated hit routines. He would not compromise. Everybody else felt variety was essential. Especially Andrew! Both Marks concurred. The more experienced the individual,the more essential it is.


I don't know if variety helps or not. All I know is what I read on this forum. I understand both the pro variety and anti variety standpoints, although my training isn't serious enough to warrant worrying about it at the moment.

Just as an example, thebiggfella has been training once every 4-7 days since January 2009 on basically the same routine.

I has him performing 3 or 4 sets per workout. It's the same volume and frequency as a consolidation style routine.

Look at his results. Maybe not the very best but still incredible and very inspirational. Inspirational to the point where it has made me plan my first proper fat loss phase.

http://www.menshealth.co.uk/...om/topic/358582

I know from the emails I have exchanged with him that he hasn't really changed much at all in nearly a year, yet still looks great.

How much better would he look with the introduction of variety?

For such basic and minimal training he has got himself in great shape, better than most people on this forum.

The thing that I have taken from his example is that attention to diet is probably vastly more important than variety when it comes to looking your best.
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jmcb

I have no desire to be the one to defend variety hit. Big fella has produced outstanding results. I don't claim he should or should have trained any other way.
There comes a time in double progression hit when the reps and weight increases end. The discussion was primarily about what can be done to jump start progress when that occurs. Andrew suggested that anyone with an axe to grind about the concept of variety use the dictionary first!
Big Fella himself says he monitors his progress and makes subtle changes to keep progress on track. Anybody who thinks for himself does likewise.
Ell Darden has had multiple routines in his books since The Nautilus Book. Ken Leistner had 2 or 3 routines listed in each of his Steel Tip newsletters. They often had variety within the individual workout prescription. Check out the routines that AJ put the plebes through back in 1975.
Variety is a tool,nothing more.
Jim
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AShortt

Ontario, CAN

jmcb wrote:
I have no desire to be the one to defend variety hit. Big fella has produced outstanding results. I don't claim he should or should have trained any other way.
There comes a time in double progression hit when the reps and weight increases end. The discussion was primarily about what can be done to jump start progress when that occurs. Andrew suggested that anyone with an axe to grind about the concept of variety use the dictionary first!
Big Fella himself says he monitors his progress and makes subtle changes to keep progress on track. Anybody who thinks for himself does likewise.
Ell Darden has had multiple routines in his books since The Nautilus Book. Ken Leistner had 2 or 3 routines listed in each of his Steel Tip newsletters. They often had variety within the individual workout prescription. Check out the routines that AJ put the plebes through back in 1975.
Variety is a tool,nothing more.
Jim


Well said Jim!

Regards,
Andrew
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