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southbeach

http://www.sciencedaily.com/...00707212127.htm

absurd!
what other insanity will they conclude next using our tax dollars for this farce called "research"? :/
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karma50

The study was done in the UK. No US tax dollars.
It's conclusions are sound. It's mostly diet.
Griff
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HeavyHitter32

Without question diet is the main cause. Most kids I know of live on nothing but refined sugar and fast food.
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Hitit

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
Without question diet is the main cause. Most kids I know of live on nothing but refined sugar and fast food.


I was thinking the same...
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Tony Williams

southbeach wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/...00707212127.htm

absurd!
what other insanity will they conclude next using our tax dollars for this farce called "research"? :/


What do you think is absurd about it?

Tony
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smanjh

I actually agree with everyone, but SB is right, is is absurd. No activity+high calories= fat person.

High calories+tons of activity+a kids metabolism= not so fat a kid, but maybe chubby.

Just right calories+playing Xbox=skinny kid.

'' '' + activity equals a stronger kid all around.

They are both factors. Look at the diets of kids in the 6-80's, they ate high calories too yet burned it off somewhat.

In the 90's, my generation, generation Rx, became the result of side effects of drugs and horrible diets plus less and less activity.
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Mr. Strong

Exercise is essential.
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

As usual, the two aren't as mutually exclusive as the "research" would make you believe. In fact, in this case the two are very, very inter-related.

Kids inside, being couch potatoes, are more likely to get bored and wander into the kitchen for a fattening treat.

Kids outside playing are more likely to keep on playing until they get in trouble for coming home late for dinner (my most common childhood offense).
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HeavyHitter32

I think acitvity still has some importance, of course, but they're not going to burn *that* much in the way of calories. As we all know, activity in general is not a huge calorie burner which explains why so many fat people stay fat despite using weights and doing aerboics. Burning off the 1500 calories from a typical daily McDonalds meal is going to be damned near impossible for most kids or adults.

You can be a couch potato and play video games all day so long as calories are in check with a reasonable diet.

You cannot eat fast food, potato chips, and drink Coke or Pepsi all day though - no matter how active you are in *most* cases.

I see fat kids in my neighborhood playing baseball, street hockey, football, etc. every day. They will continue to stay fat as long as they keep eating like they do and why do they eat this way? Two reasons:

1. Most parents are lazy (and many are fat themselves) and don't want to take the time to prepare and cook real meals as going through a five minute drive-thru is much easier.

2. Parents who cannot tell their kid "No" about anything - which consists of most of the parents in the U.S. Virtually every time I am in the grocery store these kids command to their parents what to put in the shopping cart which is virtually anything they want.
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HeavyHitter32

By the way, the biggest joke today are these kid branded yogurts. You have a lot of ignorant people buying these for their kids thinking they getting them something "healthy" when they are anything but real, natural yogurt. They are virtually pure refined sugar hardly different from regular ice cream. It sort of reminds me in a way of so-called "fruit snacks." lol
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Mr. Strong

There is a LOT of evidence that supports the idea that active children grow up to be active adults, whereas inactive children end up obese or overweight adults.

Active people are always leaner than their sedentary counterparts.



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Mr. Strong

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
I think acitvity still has some importance, of course, but they're not going to burn *that* much in the way of calories. As we all know, activity in general is not a huge calorie burner which explains why so many fat people stay fat despite using weights and doing aerboics. Burning off the 1500 calories from a typical daily McDonalds meal is going to be damned near impossible for most kids or adults.

You can be a couch potato and play video games all day so long as calories are in check with a reasonable diet.

You cannot eat fast food, potato chips, and drink Coke or Pepsi all day though - no matter how active you are in *most* cases.

I see fat kids in my neighborhood playing baseball, street hockey, football, etc. every day. They will continue to stay fat as long as they keep eating like they do and why do they eat this way? Two reasons:

1. Most parents are lazy (and many are fat themselves) and don't want to take the time to prepare and cook real meals as going through a five minute drive-thru is much easier.

2. Parents who cannot tell their kid "No" about anything - which consists of most of the parents in the U.S. Virtually every time I am in the grocery store these kids command to their parents what to put in the shopping cart which is virtually anything they want.



When I was a kid it would have been almost impossible to be overweight, every chance we had we ran around, played games, not just for 30 minutes or an hour but every chance we got, we didn't have chance to over eat.
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goya

A kid by definition can not be inactive.

Even when they are not really doing anything, they are all over the place.
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
I think acitvity still has some importance, of course, but they're not going to burn *that* much in the way of calories. As we all know, activity in general is not a huge calorie burner which explains why so many fat people stay fat despite using weights and doing aerboics. Burning off the 1500 calories from a typical daily McDonalds meal is going to be damned near impossible for most kids or adults.

You can be a couch potato and play video games all day so long as calories are in check with a reasonable diet.

You cannot eat fast food, potato chips, and drink Coke or Pepsi all day though - no matter how active you are in *most* cases...


I disagree.

In Chicago, I ate bolgna, salami, peanut butter, chips, cookies, but I played all the time --- Skinny Kid.

Moved to San Antonio and wound-up staying in more. Eating was the same --- "Husky" Kid.

As I was trying to say in my other post, it wasn't so much the play, but the not being inside tagging on the munchies for hours at time.

I ate my small bag of chips with lunch and that was that. After school I'd eat a cookie and a half a sandwich. I wasn't dipping into the big chip bags for hours at a time like my overweight nieces do.

Scott

P.S. Kids meals aint no 1500 calories.
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

Mr. Strong wrote:
When I was a kid it would have been almost impossible to be overweight, every chance we had we ran around, played games, not just for 30 minutes or an hour but every chance we got, we didn't have chance to overeat.


Agreed. This is the most telling point of all I think.
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HeavyHitter32

Scott,

As a (fairly recent) former public school teacher, I can ensure you many kids are eating 1500 calories or more per meal. Yes, even elementary kids.

The average public school lunch typically consists of pizza, fried potato tots, chocolate milk, and chips, etc. will easily topple 1000 calories or more.

Many of these same kids end up eating fast food for dinner; a McDonalds cheese burger, large fry, carmel sundae and large Coke (which is not that much food quantity even for a 5th grader) is nearly 1500 calories.

http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/...ritionfacts.pdf

As I mentioned, there are exceptions and you were one of them, but diet is the primary cause for the obesity problems in childern and adults in this country and is the reason why more and more kids are becoming diabetic, as well.
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smanjh

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
Scott,

As a (fairly recent) former public school teacher, I can ensure you many kids are eating 1500 calories or more per meal. Yes, even elementary kids.

The average public school lunch typically consists of pizza, fried potato tots, chocolate milk, and chips, etc. will easily topple 1000 calories or more.

Many of these same kids end up eating fast food for dinner; a McDonalds cheese burger, large fry, carmel sundae and large Coke (which is not that much food quantity even for a 5th grader) is nearly 1500 calories.

http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/...ritionfacts.pdf

As I mentioned, there are exceptions and you were one of them, but diet is the primary cause for the obesity problems in childern and adults in this country and is the reason why more and more kids are becoming diabetic, as well.


Primary, yes. The whole 'eating for fun and pleasure' thing is causing this. Combined with the scam of 'women's liberation' (a ploy to double the productivity without doubling labor costs) leaves many people too tired to even consider working out and taking the time to prepare meals.

I have lost 62 pounds eating a lot of fast food. However I know the calorie thing, and most people don't. Even if they do, they don't know how to proceed.

The next factor is the prescription drug issue. If a kid acts up or shows any signs of not being 'normal', they load them up on that crap. I was one of them, and recently they tried me on different meds for bi polar and depression. Instant fat ass.

Even if you go off, you still have the fat and thus the appetite, so it isn't an issue of just stopping treatment. Even if it was, kids don't have a choice and some states have laws that considers not giving a child his 'mental health' medication illegal as a form of abuse.

Lastly, the standard of measurement is so messed up and skewed to make a lot of people 'obese' when they are not. Maybe a little over, but that BMI can make someone worse off.
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Tony Williams

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
I think acitvity still has some importance, of course, but they're not going to burn *that* much in the way of calories. As we all know, activity in general is not a huge calorie burner which explains why so many fat people stay fat despite using weights and doing aerboics. Burning off the 1500 calories from a typical daily McDonalds meal is going to be damned near impossible for most kids or adults.

You can be a couch potato and play video games all day so long as calories are in check with a reasonable diet.

You cannot eat fast food, potato chips, and drink Coke or Pepsi all day though - no matter how active you are in *most* cases.

I see fat kids in my neighborhood playing baseball, street hockey, football, etc. every day. They will continue to stay fat as long as they keep eating like they do and why do they eat this way? Two reasons:

1. Most parents are lazy (and many are fat themselves) and don't want to take the time to prepare and cook real meals as going through a five minute drive-thru is much easier.

2. Parents who cannot tell their kid "No" about anything - which consists of most of the parents in the U.S. Virtually every time I am in the grocery store these kids command to their parents what to put in the shopping cart which is virtually anything they want.


Right on the money!

When I was in elementary school in the late 50's and early 60's, most kids were slender, even skinny. The odd one out was the obese kid.

Now it is just the opposite.

Walk into any McDonald's and count the slim people compared to the overweight ones. It is amazing to me how things have changed in America.

The main problem is too many empty calories, but it is nuts to let kids sit in a chair and play video games all day long.

My entertainment was walking to the library and checking out a book.

Tony
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