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coach-jeff

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This is just so wrong on so many levels.

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Tony Williams

coachjeff wrote:
This is just so wrong on so many levels.

http://www.youtube.com/...player_embedded


Why?

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Tony
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smanjh

Tony Williams wrote:
coachjeff wrote:
This is just so wrong on so many levels.

http://www.youtube.com/...player_embedded


Why?

Regards,
Tony


It's just stupid in today's age I reckon. If this happened now, whoever the band was would be thought of as gay.
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smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
coachjeff wrote:
This is just so wrong on so many levels.

http://www.youtube.com/...player_embedded


Why?

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Tony

It's just stupid in today's age I reckon. If this happened now, whoever the band was would be thought of as gay.


It was not filmed today, obviously.

I posted it several days ago, and no one objected then.

But he states the video is "just so wrong on so many levels".

Just wondered why.

If a curvy, bleached blonde in a bikini appeared on stage with the band, would it be OK then?

If Mentzer was gay, would that change your opinions of him?

Tony

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SteveHIT

Tony Williams wrote:
But he states the video is "just so wrong on so many levels".

Just wondered why.


http://www.drdarden.com/...542859&pageNo=0
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Tony Williams

How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, with shrunken testicles, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

Seemed to me he was joking around.

If anything would attract gay men, I would wager it is a bodybuilding contest.

Tony

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SteveHIT

Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?


lol!
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SteveHIT wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

lol!


Sorry, I forgot but edited "with shrunken testicles" ... :)

Tony

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smanjh

Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
coachjeff wrote:
This is just so wrong on so many levels.

http://www.youtube.com/...player_embedded


Why?

Regards,
Tony

It's just stupid in today's age I reckon. If this happened now, whoever the band was would be thought of as gay.

It was not filmed today, obviously.

I posted it several days ago, and no one objected then.

But he states the video is "just so wrong on so many levels".

Just wondered why.

If a curvy, bleached blonde in a bikini appeared on stage with the band, would it be OK then?

If Mentzer was gay, would that change your opinions of him?

Tony



LOL, I have no problem with gay people, nor would it change my opinion of him.

It depends what your going after demo wise, and rock bands usually want to convey the cool factor of having the big breasted blond jumping around.

I have met several gay people, and most of them are really cool.
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smanjh

Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, with shrunken testicles, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

Seemed to me he was joking around.

If anything would attract gay men, I would wager it is a bodybuilding contest.

Tony



It would depend on how you look at it I guess. To me it would be a sport if there were a strict adherence to judging criteria and the guys actually competed.

It would also be better if the contests were strictly tested and it was really a contest on who was better, not on who had the better drug schedule.
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Tony Williams

smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, with shrunken testicles, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

Seemed to me he was joking around.

If anything would attract gay men, I would wager it is a bodybuilding contest.

Tony



It would depend on how you look at it I guess. To me it would be a sport if there were a strict adherence to judging criteria and the guys actually competed.

It would also be better if the contests were strictly tested and it was really a contest on who was better, not on who had the better drug schedule.


It is not, and never has been, a sport.

Bodybuiding is an exhibition -- just like the Miss America swimsuit pageant.

Totally subjective.

Still waiting for Coach Jeff on what is wrong with the video in his opinion.

Tony
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Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, with shrunken testicles, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

Seemed to me he was joking around.

If anything would attract gay men, I would wager it is a bodybuilding contest.

Tony



It would depend on how you look at it I guess. To me it would be a sport if there were a strict adherence to judging criteria and the guys actually competed.

It would also be better if the contests were strictly tested and it was really a contest on who was better, not on who had the better drug schedule.


It is not, and never has been, a sport.

Bodybuiding is an exhibition -- just like the Miss America swimsuit pageant.

Totally subjective.

Still waiting for Coach Jeff on what is wrong with the video in his opinion.

Tony


Adding to the above post, not only is it only an exhibition, but now it is an exhibition of freaks.

When even television won't touch it, you know it's weird with a capital W.

Tony

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smanjh

Tony Williams wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, with shrunken testicles, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

Seemed to me he was joking around.

If anything would attract gay men, I would wager it is a bodybuilding contest.

Tony



It would depend on how you look at it I guess. To me it would be a sport if there were a strict adherence to judging criteria and the guys actually competed.

It would also be better if the contests were strictly tested and it was really a contest on who was better, not on who had the better drug schedule.


It is not, and never has been, a sport.

Bodybuiding is an exhibition -- just like the Miss America swimsuit pageant.

Totally subjective.

Still waiting for Coach Jeff on what is wrong with the video in his opinion.

Tony

Adding to the above post, not only is it only an exhibition, but now it is an exhibition of freaks.

When even television won't touch it, you know it's weird with a capital W.

Tony



Your right, what it is now is ridiculous, mainly because everyone knows it is unattainable. Even if the drugs were legal, who would want to go through what these guys go through?

But in the 70's it was on TV and it was growing in popularity. As the attainability went from 'probably not but let's try' to 'no way in hell' with the physiques, the fanbase got devoured up.

Even if it was a natural contest, it would not have an NFL type fanbase at all, but it would be more media friendly.

I am saying bodybuilding as a whole and an idea is not bad, but what we have now is (striated glutes, wtf).

I guess I say sport because of the physicality to get like that, but yes, it is no different than a beauty contest.
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smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, with shrunken testicles, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

Seemed to me he was joking around.

If anything would attract gay men, I would wager it is a bodybuilding contest.

Tony



It would depend on how you look at it I guess. To me it would be a sport if there were a strict adherence to judging criteria and the guys actually competed.

It would also be better if the contests were strictly tested and it was really a contest on who was better, not on who had the better drug schedule.


It is not, and never has been, a sport.

Bodybuiding is an exhibition -- just like the Miss America swimsuit pageant.

Totally subjective.

Still waiting for Coach Jeff on what is wrong with the video in his opinion.

Tony

Adding to the above post, not only is it only an exhibition, but now it is an exhibition of freaks.

When even television won't touch it, you know it's weird with a capital W.

Tony



Your right, what it is now is ridiculous, mainly because everyone knows it is unattainable. Even if the drugs were legal, who would want to go through what these guys go through?

But in the 70's it was on TV and it was growing in popularity. As the attainability went from 'probably not but let's try' to 'no way in hell' with the physiques, the fanbase got devoured up.

Even if it was a natural contest, it would not have an NFL type fanbase at all, but it would be more media friendly.

I am saying bodybuilding as a whole and an idea is not bad, but what we have now is (striated glutes, wtf).

I guess I say sport because of the physicality to get like that, but yes, it is no different than a beauty contest.


The contest itself contains little or no athletic skill other than holding a pose for a number of seconds.

An elite trumpet player exerts more energy than a bodybuilder.

Tony
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WesH

Tony Williams wrote:

Sorry, I forgot but edited "with shrunken testicles" ... :)


I could win the bodypart title for "Biggest Machine."
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smanjh

Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, with shrunken testicles, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

Seemed to me he was joking around.

If anything would attract gay men, I would wager it is a bodybuilding contest.

Tony



It would depend on how you look at it I guess. To me it would be a sport if there were a strict adherence to judging criteria and the guys actually competed.

It would also be better if the contests were strictly tested and it was really a contest on who was better, not on who had the better drug schedule.


It is not, and never has been, a sport.

Bodybuiding is an exhibition -- just like the Miss America swimsuit pageant.

Totally subjective.

Still waiting for Coach Jeff on what is wrong with the video in his opinion.

Tony

Adding to the above post, not only is it only an exhibition, but now it is an exhibition of freaks.

When even television won't touch it, you know it's weird with a capital W.

Tony



Your right, what it is now is ridiculous, mainly because everyone knows it is unattainable. Even if the drugs were legal, who would want to go through what these guys go through?

But in the 70's it was on TV and it was growing in popularity. As the attainability went from 'probably not but let's try' to 'no way in hell' with the physiques, the fanbase got devoured up.

Even if it was a natural contest, it would not have an NFL type fanbase at all, but it would be more media friendly.

I am saying bodybuilding as a whole and an idea is not bad, but what we have now is (striated glutes, wtf).

I guess I say sport because of the physicality to get like that, but yes, it is no different than a beauty contest.

The contest itself contains little or no athletic skill other than holding a pose for a number of seconds.

An elite trumpet player exerts more energy than a bodybuilder.

Tony


I don't know Tony, I could imagine getting to that dehydrated peak they get to via diuretics would make posing quite difficult.

Posing is hard, ever try to do like a 5 minute routine? Incredibly difficult.
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Tony Williams

smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, with shrunken testicles, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

Seemed to me he was joking around.

If anything would attract gay men, I would wager it is a bodybuilding contest.

Tony



It would depend on how you look at it I guess. To me it would be a sport if there were a strict adherence to judging criteria and the guys actually competed.

It would also be better if the contests were strictly tested and it was really a contest on who was better, not on who had the better drug schedule.


It is not, and never has been, a sport.

Bodybuiding is an exhibition -- just like the Miss America swimsuit pageant.

Totally subjective.

Still waiting for Coach Jeff on what is wrong with the video in his opinion.

Tony

Adding to the above post, not only is it only an exhibition, but now it is an exhibition of freaks.

When even television won't touch it, you know it's weird with a capital W.

Tony



Your right, what it is now is ridiculous, mainly because everyone knows it is unattainable. Even if the drugs were legal, who would want to go through what these guys go through?

But in the 70's it was on TV and it was growing in popularity. As the attainability went from 'probably not but let's try' to 'no way in hell' with the physiques, the fanbase got devoured up.

Even if it was a natural contest, it would not have an NFL type fanbase at all, but it would be more media friendly.

I am saying bodybuilding as a whole and an idea is not bad, but what we have now is (striated glutes, wtf).

I guess I say sport because of the physicality to get like that, but yes, it is no different than a beauty contest.

The contest itself contains little or no athletic skill other than holding a pose for a number of seconds.

An elite trumpet player exerts more energy than a bodybuilder.

Tony

I don't know Tony, I could imagine getting to that dehydrated peak they get to via diuretics would make posing quite difficult.

Posing is hard, ever try to do like a 5 minute routine? Incredibly difficult.


Not like playing 40 minutes of basketball.

No comparison.

And why on Earth anyone would want to intentionally and dangerously dehydrate themselves to win a bodybuilding contest that 99.9 percent of the public could care less about, is beyond me.

Tony
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Nautilus1975

Tony Williams wrote:
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An elite trumpet player exerts more energy than a bodybuilder.

Tony




Hahaa -

BLOW LOUIE!!

;-)

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http://www.youtube.com/...feature=related
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smanjh

Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
How is this much "creepier" than grown men on steroids, devoid of body hair, with shrunken testicles, posing on stage in briefs in an exhibition?

Seemed to me he was joking around.

If anything would attract gay men, I would wager it is a bodybuilding contest.

Tony



It would depend on how you look at it I guess. To me it would be a sport if there were a strict adherence to judging criteria and the guys actually competed.

It would also be better if the contests were strictly tested and it was really a contest on who was better, not on who had the better drug schedule.


It is not, and never has been, a sport.

Bodybuiding is an exhibition -- just like the Miss America swimsuit pageant.

Totally subjective.

Still waiting for Coach Jeff on what is wrong with the video in his opinion.

Tony

Adding to the above post, not only is it only an exhibition, but now it is an exhibition of freaks.

When even television won't touch it, you know it's weird with a capital W.

Tony



Your right, what it is now is ridiculous, mainly because everyone knows it is unattainable. Even if the drugs were legal, who would want to go through what these guys go through?

But in the 70's it was on TV and it was growing in popularity. As the attainability went from 'probably not but let's try' to 'no way in hell' with the physiques, the fanbase got devoured up.

Even if it was a natural contest, it would not have an NFL type fanbase at all, but it would be more media friendly.

I am saying bodybuilding as a whole and an idea is not bad, but what we have now is (striated glutes, wtf).

I guess I say sport because of the physicality to get like that, but yes, it is no different than a beauty contest.

The contest itself contains little or no athletic skill other than holding a pose for a number of seconds.

An elite trumpet player exerts more energy than a bodybuilder.

Tony

I don't know Tony, I could imagine getting to that dehydrated peak they get to via diuretics would make posing quite difficult.

Posing is hard, ever try to do like a 5 minute routine? Incredibly difficult.

Not like playing 40 minutes of basketball.

No comparison.

And why on Earth anyone would want to intentionally and dangerously dehydrate themselves to win a bodybuilding contest that 99.9 percent of the public could care less about, is beyond me.

Tony


Yes, that would be somewhat obvious, but seriously, try hitting poses with a full length mirror and making every single muscle contract. Now hit those poses for 5 minutes. Remember, if you hit one off just a little, you lose points vs other guys.

It should be respected and is incredibly difficult, it really is.

By your logic, why would guys play basketball when they could just play Football, which more people care about?

Your right, it is illogical, but if you looked into how it goes and how the prep is for a natural going on stage, you would realize it is harder than your giving it credit for.
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summaHIT

Ontario, CAN

It is an extremely creepy display. Mike seems psychotic!
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Tony Williams

summaHIT wrote:
It is an extremely creepy display. Mike seems psychotic!


And the Mr. Olympia is not creepy?

Tony
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Turpin

LOL..... I enjoyed it !

It is/was just an `off the cuff` gimmicky vid. & It looks like Mike looked a little ill at ease with `what to do next` .
The song itself ( an old AC/DC cover ) is about the hardships of playing in a rock n roll band and of getting pushed/messed around and " beat up , broken bones " so in the context of the song the video isnt that weird , just very unrehearsed I believe.
For me ... Its great to see Mike in any video , especially in the condition he displays here .

T.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

coachjeff wrote:
This is just so wrong on so many levels.

http://www.youtube.com/...player_embedded



==Scott==
Coach, I think many of us are still wanting to hear your responce ?? I can see that it is sort of a strange video but we'd like to see why in your opinion it's so "wrong" on many levels?
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Tony Williams

entsminger wrote:
coachjeff wrote:
This is just so wrong on so many levels.

http://www.youtube.com/...player_embedded



==Scott==
Coach, I think many of us are still wanting to hear your responce ?? I can see that it is sort of a strange video but we'd like to see why in your opinion it's so "wrong" on many levels?


Mentzer obviously is just fooling around.

Looks entirely adlibbed.

Tony
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