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DrFist

hey guys, someone in another thread mentioned how bbers use certain pre-contest strategies to achieve that full and super lean look.

is it reducing carbs? don't the muscles look flat when carbs are depleted though?

appreciate any help

i'm striving for this:

bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/photos/view-user-photo/1708921

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/...S350/Draper.jpg

http://sportlements.com/...raper-copy1.jpg
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Jym1985

These vids explain the methods used the week prior to competition:

http://www.youtube.com/...ayer_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=FKgqzYhFFlM
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crazeeJZ

DrFist wrote:
hey guys, someone in another thread mentioned how bbers use certain pre-contest strategies to achieve that full and super lean look.

is it reducing carbs? don't the muscles look flat when carbs are depleted though?

appreciate any help

i'm striving for this:

bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/photos/view-user-photo/1708921

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/...S350/Draper.jpg

http://sportlements.com/...raper-copy1.jpg


I think they carb up before the contest to look full.

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DrFist

Jym1985 wrote:
These vids explain the methods used the week prior to competition:

http://www.youtube.com/...ayer_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/...zYhFFlM


ok, thanks.

in all of mike's work he never mentions carbing up or carbing down. he only mentions decreasing calories.

is there a reason for this?
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Jym1985

DrFist wrote:
Jym1985 wrote:
These vids explain the methods used the week prior to competition:

http://www.youtube.com/...ayer_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=FKgqzYhFFlM

ok, thanks.

in all of mike's work he never mentions carbing up or carbing down. he only mentions decreasing calories.

is there a reason for this?


I think Mike was referring to simply getting lean. In which case he is correct. You can get lean by simply reducing calories. However, in my opinion, reducing carbs and following a paleo like diet works best.

To get that ultra ripped/shredded look for a show, bodybuilders use water manipulation techniques as outlined in the vids of my previous post.
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fbcoach

One of the best strategies I used when competing in bodybuilding was to get close to contest shape several weeks in advance of the competition day. This would allow me to build back any muscle loss during the diet, and I could manipulate calories and macro-nutrients, so I could compete at my biggest and leanest. It allows you to judge the amount of carbs and water needed to look your best.
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crazeeJZ

DrFist wrote:
Jym1985 wrote:
These vids explain the methods used the week prior to competition:

http://www.youtube.com/...ayer_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=FKgqzYhFFlM

ok, thanks.

in all of mike's work he never mentions carbing up or carbing down. he only mentions decreasing calories.

is there a reason for this?


Did you read his Heavy Duty Journal, his contest prep journal? Maybe he mentions it there. I used to have it a long time ago, but don't anymore, so not sure either way.



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fbcoach

crazeeJZ wrote:
DrFist wrote:
Jym1985 wrote:
These vids explain the methods used the week prior to competition:

http://www.youtube.com/...ayer_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=FKgqzYhFFlM

ok, thanks.

in all of mike's work he never mentions carbing up or carbing down. he only mentions decreasing calories.

is there a reason for this?

Did you read his Heavy Duty Journal, his contest prep journal? Maybe he mentions it there. I used to have it a long time ago, but don't anymore, so not sure either way.





I have them. He talks about reducing sodium the days before the competition, and he also mentions dieting on 800-1200 cals/day, but then mentions 2 days before the contest (eating out with Weider), he consumed 3,100cals that day.
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Joshua Trentine

Ohio, USA

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markh

There are numerous pre-contest strategies used by bodybuilders such as carb depleting/loading, sodium manipulation and water manipulation among the most popular.
The problem is unless you are EXTREMELY lean then these will have only a minute effect if done correctly and quite a negative effect if (as in the majority of cases) you get it wrong.
Also if you are lean enough and looking great leading up to a competition then there is a strong case for not altering anything (like FB coach i believe the ideal scenario is to be ready a long way out, which allows you to slowly and cumulatively increase your caloric intake leading up to a contest.)
I think for some people a moderate carb deplete/load can be beneficial , but i am not a fan of either sodium or water manipulation (i`ve looked at my fullest and driest when i`ve kept my water intake high throughout, including the day of the contest.)
I recommend that anybody thinking of competing should check out the writings of Dr Joe Klemczewski

Mark H
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Tony Williams

DrFist wrote:
hey guys, someone in another thread mentioned how bbers use certain pre-contest strategies to achieve that full and super lean look.

is it reducing carbs? don't the muscles look flat when carbs are depleted though?

appreciate any help

i'm striving for this:

bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/photos/view-user-photo/1708921

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/...S350/Draper.jpg

http://sportlements.com/...raper-copy1.jpg


For that look, I think you have to begin with a needle and syringe.

Tony

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sgb2112

A large pizza washed down with coke ala Sergio Oliva.
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HDLou

I remember Arnold stating that he would just cut out bread and wine with dinner when dieting for a contest.
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DrFist

Jym1985 wrote:
DrFist wrote:
Jym1985 wrote:
These vids explain the methods used the week prior to competition:

http://www.youtube.com/...ayer_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=FKgqzYhFFlM

ok, thanks.

in all of mike's work he never mentions carbing up or carbing down. he only mentions decreasing calories.

is there a reason for this?

I think Mike was referring to simply getting lean. In which case he is correct. You can get lean by simply reducing calories. However, in my opinion, reducing carbs and following a paleo like diet works best.

To get that ultra ripped/shredded look for a show, bodybuilders use water manipulation techniques as outlined in the vids of my previous post.


i looked at the videos but they don't mention much about water manipulation? how do you manipulate water like that? isn't it a bad idea to remove water?

thanks
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Tony Williams

HDLou wrote:
I remember Arnold stating that he would just cut out bread and wine with dinner when dieting for a contest.


But not women?

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crazeeJZ

Tony Williams wrote:
HDLou wrote:
I remember Arnold stating that he would just cut out bread and wine with dinner when dieting for a contest.

But not women?



Why would he cut out cardio? haha.

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entsminger

Virginia, USA

sgb2112 wrote:
A large pizza washed down with coke ala Sergio Oliva.


==Scott==
That's my kind of precontest diet, ha ha. Like anyone on here other than Joshua or Landau might be actually dieting down for a contest anyway. This forum get's funnier by the minute!!
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crazeeJZ

entsminger wrote:
sgb2112 wrote:
A large pizza washed down with coke ala Sergio Oliva.

==Scott==
That's my kind of precontest diet, ha ha. Like anyone on here other than Joshua or Landau might be actually dieting down for a contest anyway. This forum get's funnier by the minute!!


Haha, and you're a contributor to that, Scotty. Stay with us buddy. OP is trying to get to that level of leanness for himself by using pre-contest strategies, not to enter a contest, haha.

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