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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

One does not have to compete in order to know how to pose. I studied the discipline for years (since my teen years, when I did have interested in competing), and then later as a competition Judge. This is an example of an improper lat spread... lifting the back up while spreading the elbows out wide, both of which makes the back look narrow.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Brian Johnston wrote:
One does not have to compete in order to know how to pose. I studied the discipline for years (since my teen years, when I did have interested in competing), and then later as a competition Judge. This is an example of an improper lat spread... lifting the back up while spreading the elbows out wide, both of which makes the back look narrow.


==Scott==
Let's just see how many posts it takes for this thread to turn to arguing and insults, ha ha..
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

If you compare this to the avitar I used on this site, whereby in this semi-relaxed lat spread the shoulders are lowered, the back spread and rounded slightly, and the stomach pulled into a vacuum (which you cannot see), which causes more rounding of the back for more of a 'cobra hood' appearance.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Legs are another problem for bodybuilders... sometimes a person may lock his leg completely when posing it (see photo). However, this does not increase separation and it makes the leg look more narrow as it removes flexion of the adductors, sartorius, etc.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

But in this next example (my legs), I keep a slight bend with one leg slightly in front of the other. You don't want to exaggerate the bend as it appears as though you're squatting and it looks unnatural, but it allows a lot more muscle mass of the thighs to flex, and not just the quads.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Here's another example... in the photos you will see the same person performing the same pose. The second pose is better since there is some 'vacuum' going on, and this increases depth of the torso and its appearance. However, in both instances the subject is trying to stretch up the torso, which elongates it and makes it look more narrow.

This is particularly true from a judge's point of view... since the judge is sitting down from the stage and looking up at an angle.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

In this example, a photo of myself in my early to mid 20s, you will see that I have the vacuum going on to increase torso depth, but I'm also 'squarring off' the torso and not stretching it upward. But the problem with my positioning (the same holds true for the subject above) is that the wrists should be cocked the other way around as this shortens arm length and closes off the 'dead space' between the arm and lat; doing so makes the torso look larger.
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Landau

Florida, USA

Brian Johnston wrote:
In this example, a photo of myself in my early to mid 20s, you will see that I have the vacuum going on to increase torso depth, but I'm also 'squarring off' the torso and not stretching it upward. But the problem with my positioning (the same holds true for the subject above) is that the wrists should be cocked the other way around as this shortens arm length and closes off the 'dead space' between the arm and lat; doing so makes the torso look larger.


Yep, I'd use you to clean up my posing, but my transitions are smooth as hell! (it's how I display in between)
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Interesting that at one time I didn't think Zane, Dickerson, Corney, etc., were anything special in posing. But with today's current crop of bodybuilders, they were masters (with great transitions). I find one of the worse poses are the relaxed ones (particularly front and back relaxed).

People tend to spread their armpits so friggin wide, thinking that it makes they're lats wider... and in the process it stretches them out and narrows the shoulders (you lose that rounded shoulder cap).
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Frank Scott

Just waiting for the highwayman to come along and criticise his lower pins. The randomly chosen poser I mean..
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Turpin

Frank Scott wrote:
Just waiting for the highwayman to come along and criticise his lower pins. The randomly chosen poser I mean..


Just the Lower pins ? .... Trentines quads are non existent ( flat as a tack ) in that pic.

Actually I am glad that someone as experienced as Brian has noticed / posted & affirmed that which I mentioned of over the years ... which includes Trentines bizarre behaviour.

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Hitit

This is good, but I see what's really going on here and it's quite funny!!

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Mr. Strong

This is creepy.
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Hitit

Mr. Strong wrote:
This is creepy.


Yes, but it's funny....well to me anyways.
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Tomislav

New York, USA

Mr. Strong wrote:
This is creepy.


The most salient post on this thread again comes from Mr Strong; this thread is creepy - in reality both athletes are in tremendous shape but that doesn't matter because to have a virtual posedown or a virtual bb contest (like this clearly has become, trading pose for pose) then the other athlete has to at least indicate they want to posedown/want to compete.

This thread could only be uncreepy if Josh agreed and moreover, could share his thoughts too.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Posedown? I'm speaking about proper body placement to optimize the look of a pose and not who looks better. Again, over the heads of infants. And I did work with Josh to correct some errors, although many of them continued on (due to working over the Net, which has obvious limitations). It's not an easy thing to correct. It's like teaching proper lat shrugging to someone doing pulldowns.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

How to optimize thigh size and separation in a triceps or chest side pose:

The rear leg is slightly bent. The leg facing the judges/camera bears most of the weight (not all, since you can get tipsy).

The front (most visible leg)... place the foot so that the toes are midway (at the arch) of the other foot. In this position it is back a bit from the other foot. Not sure if that's clear. When you bend the 'front' leg the knee of the back/posterior leg squishes up against the back of the knee of the front leg.

And so... by having the back leg's knee push up and into the knee area of the front leg... and by placing most of the body weight onto that front leg, the hamstring pops out, as will the thigh's separation along the side.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Here is an example of a couple doing it wrong. They are simply cocking their legs up, but without placing strain on the visible leg... without pushing the legs together (to squish the muscles), or jamming the posterior leg into the knee area of the anterior leg.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Side Chest Pose:

If you have short biceps (a noticeable gap between elbow and biceps), pull the arm back slightly as this reduces the space. Lenda Murray took advantage of this, and the positioning also accentuates shoulder separation (striations).
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Here's a shot of Franco... he did not pull his arm back as much, but it's still pulled back a bit more than what a long-biceps person (e.g., Arnold or Sergio) would need to do.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Speaking of Franco... I love seeing unsual photos (ones I've never seen before or that are not repeated in magazines)... and here's one.
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HeavyHitter32

Brian Johnston wrote:
Speaking of Franco... I love seeing unsual photos (ones I've never seen before or that are not repeated in magazines)... and here's one.


I don't recall seeing him of that size before.
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tifhw

Louisiana, USA

Tomislav wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:
This is creepy.

The most salient post on this thread again comes from Mr Strong; this thread is creepy - in reality both athletes are in tremendous shape but that doesn't matter because to have a virtual posedown or a virtual bb contest (like this clearly has become, trading pose for pose) then the other athlete has to at least indicate they want to posedown/want to compete.

This thread could only be uncreepy if Josh agreed and moreover, could share his thoughts too.



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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Proper posing is not just about proper placement of all body parts (for a natural flow), but chosing which version of pose is best for your body. The picture shows Robby Robinson, who has performed the side chest in a more traditional manner (chest lifted high and midsection pulled in, a la Arnold).

However, he's better known for this rendition as it shows far more abdominal, intercostal and chest striations. Most 'natural' bodybuilders should opt for this version since lack of muscle mass simply 'stretches out' and elongates the body when trying to mimick the Arnold style side chest post.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

How standing relaxed used to look.
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