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Ellington Darden

In my book, "The New Bodybuilding for Old-School Results," I've had some awesome comments on Sergio Oliva's close-up arms on pages 302 and 303. This was a photo that Arthur Jones took in 1971 with a telephoto lens from a distance of 50 yards.

Sergio's contracted arms were so HUGE that each one dwarfed his head. Jones accurately measured the thickness of Sergio's arms with a caliper and that figure was exactly 7-7/16 inches on each arm.

How thick is 7-7/16 inches? My son has a Wilson volleyball and I just measured it's thickness. It's a shade under 8 inches, so Sergio's contracted upper arm was almost as thick as a volleyball. Incredible.

Ellington
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cmg

that is one BIG arm! Have you seen a more impressive pair since?

Thanks Dr D!

Ron
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backtrack

It is amazing really.

A couple of years ago an anaesthetist once observed me while I held a limb for the surgeon while he prepped. As it impressed him he at once decided he wanted to measure my upper arm. I was so embarrassed as I knew as good as they looked, my upper arm wouldn't measure as big as it looked. Nevertheless I did oblige. I think even the Doctor was surprised that my arm measured just above 16 inches and not more.

I'd be interested to know if anyone can claim to have gotten big upper arms without isolation exercises.
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

Ellington Darden wrote:
In my book, "The New Bodybuilding for Old-School Results," I've had some awesome comments on Sergio Oliva's close-up arms on pages 302 and 303. This was a photo that Arthur Jones took in 1971 with a telephoto lens from a distance of 50 yards.

Sergio's contracted arms were so HUGE that each one dwarfed his head. Jones accurately measured the thickness of Sergio's arms with a caliper and that figure was exactly 7-7/16 inches on each arm.

How thick is 7-7/16 inches? My son has a Wilson volleyball and I just measured it's thickness. It's a shade under 8 inches, so Sergio's contracted upper arm was almost as thick as a volleyball. Incredible.

Ellington


I am assuming he was on some really good "juice" at the time.
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Hitit

Incredibly freakishly BIG!
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HDLou

kulitsa wrote:
Ellington Darden wrote:
In my book, "The New Bodybuilding for Old-School Results," I've had some awesome comments on Sergio Oliva's close-up arms on pages 302 and 303. This was a photo that Arthur Jones took in 1971 with a telephoto lens from a distance of 50 yards.

Sergio's contracted arms were so HUGE that each one dwarfed his head. Jones accurately measured the thickness of Sergio's arms with a caliper and that figure was exactly 7-7/16 inches on each arm.

How thick is 7-7/16 inches? My son has a Wilson volleyball and I just measured it's thickness. It's a shade under 8 inches, so Sergio's contracted upper arm was almost as thick as a volleyball. Incredible.

Ellington

I am assuming he was on some really good "juice" at the time.


Yep. Orange Juice.
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Ellington Darden

cmg wrote:
that is one BIG arm! Have you seen a more impressive pair since?

Thanks Dr D!

Ron


I saw Ronnie Coleman several years ago and I was impressed with his arms. Just like Sergio, Coleman has a small head, which makes his arms look even bigger.

Ellington

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bobj

Not orange juice, but Coca Cola. I used to work out in the same Chicago gym as Sergio around 1972-1974. He worked out in the morning, like I did. One Sunday morning around 10:00am there were only about 4 of us working out and a bodybuilder posed in the mirror showing Sergio his impressive flexed arm (~17.5") and naming off the protein powders and other supplements he was using.

Sergio had been doing some short range pumping type bodyweight dips in a half-assed fashion and comes over to the mirror. He flexes his arm which was giant (very round, like a melon or soccer ball)and which totally dwarfed the other guy's arm. He points to it and laughs "Coca Cola".

The guy was amazing. I wasnt impressed with his work ethic, but he was huge and solid...no fat. I have never seen anybody like him since. My Dad was a cop and worked with him years later. he would wear short sleeved "cop shirts" but he had to slice the short sleeve so he could fit his arm into the shirt. Ridiculous.
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

bobj wrote:
Not orange juice, but Coca Cola. I used to work out in the same Chicago gym as Sergio around 1972-1974. He worked out in the morning, like I did. One Sunday morning around 10:00am there were only about 4 of us working out and a bodybuilder posed in the mirror showing Sergio his impressive flexed arm (~17.5") and naming off the protein powders and other supplements he was using.

Sergio had been doing some short range pumping type bodyweight dips in a half-assed fashion and comes over to the mirror. He flexes his arm which was giant (very round, like a melon or soccer ball)and which totally dwarfed the other guy's arm. He points to it and laughs "Coca Cola".

The guy was amazing. I wasnt impressed with his work ethic, but he was huge and solid...no fat. I have never seen anybody like him since. My Dad was a cop and worked with him years later. he would wear short sleeved "cop shirts" but he had to slice the short sleeve so he could fit his arm into the shirt. Ridiculous.


Androgenic drugs truly work miracles. Especially, as per Sergio, when paired with a high dosage of high fructose corn syrup.
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Ellington Darden

When Sergio was training with Arthur Jones in 1971, Kim Wood would often have supper with Sergio. Kim said Sergio's favorite dinner was a large pepperoni pizza, washed down with a couple of big bottles of Coke.

Kim tells other stories about Sergio and Arthur in Chapter 2 of "The New BB for Old-School Results."

Ellington
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kurtvf

kulitsa wrote:
bobj wrote:
Not orange juice, but Coca Cola. I used to work out in the same Chicago gym as Sergio around 1972-1974. He worked out in the morning, like I did. One Sunday morning around 10:00am there were only about 4 of us working out and a bodybuilder posed in the mirror showing Sergio his impressive flexed arm (~17.5") and naming off the protein powders and other supplements he was using.

Sergio had been doing some short range pumping type bodyweight dips in a half-assed fashion and comes over to the mirror. He flexes his arm which was giant (very round, like a melon or soccer ball)and which totally dwarfed the other guy's arm. He points to it and laughs "Coca Cola".

The guy was amazing. I wasnt impressed with his work ethic, but he was huge and solid...no fat. I have never seen anybody like him since. My Dad was a cop and worked with him years later. he would wear short sleeved "cop shirts" but he had to slice the short sleeve so he could fit his arm into the shirt. Ridiculous.

Androgenic drugs truly work miracles. Especially, as per Sergio, when paired with a high dosage of high fructose corn syrup.


In Sergio's heyday Coke was made with cane sugar.....
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kurtvf

Freddy Ortiz, who had arms to rival Sergio's, was also rumored to feed his arms with coca cola. I believe his bicep exercise of choice was under grip bodyweight chins.
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tompuderbaugh

I too met Sergio several times during his hey-day. And WOW barely describes the size of his arms.

Dr. D. was right, his small head added to the effect. Another thing that helped was his freakishly small waist.

I don't know this for a fact, but I would guess that it only measured 30-31 inches when he was in shape. I also bet that his thighs weren't much smaller than that....Really made for a freakish package. He was a pure mesomorph bodytype. At the FAR, FAR right end of the "bell curve". Statistically probably one in a million men or so. A true genetic freak of nature.

I've said this before, but walking behind him (and observing) as he strolled down the street in those "slit up to his shoulders" short sleeved shirts was a real treat, because he could literally stop traffic. People on the sidewalk would just stop what they were doing and stare....With their mouths hanging open! Really something to see.

Good training to all.
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Ellington Darden

kurtvf wrote:
kulitsa wrote:
bobj wrote:
Not orange juice, but Coca Cola. I used to work out in the same Chicago gym as Sergio around 1972-1974. He worked out in the morning, like I did. One Sunday morning around 10:00am there were only about 4 of us working out and a bodybuilder posed in the mirror showing Sergio his impressive flexed arm (~17.5") and naming off the protein powders and other supplements he was using.

Sergio had been doing some short range pumping type bodyweight dips in a half-assed fashion and comes over to the mirror. He flexes his arm which was giant (very round, like a melon or soccer ball)and which totally dwarfed the other guy's arm. He points to it and laughs "Coca Cola".

The guy was amazing. I wasnt impressed with his work ethic, but he was huge and solid...no fat. I have never seen anybody like him since. My Dad was a cop and worked with him years later. he would wear short sleeved "cop shirts" but he had to slice the short sleeve so he could fit his arm into the shirt. Ridiculous.

Androgenic drugs truly work miracles. Especially, as per Sergio, when paired with a high dosage of high fructose corn syrup.

In Sergio's heyday Coke was made with cane sugar.....


Hold on. I remember Sergio talking about cutting sugarcane in Cuba throughout his teenage years. He said he would peel and chew the cane throughout the day.

Maybe sugarcane was his untold secret to massive size?

We've got to get David Landau to research that concept for us.

If sugarcane worked for Sergio, will Pure Cane Sugar, by the tablespoon, work for us?

Ellington

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SanSooMan

Dr darden, do you think most of the current heavyweight bodybuilders have arms that are 20 or more inches? Many of the world's strongest men that are not fat look like they do. Any thoughts?
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

Ellington Darden wrote:
Hold on. I remember Sergio talking about cutting sugarcane in Cuba throughout his teenage years. He said he would peel and chew the cane throughout the day.

Maybe sugarcane was his untold secret to massive size?

We've got to get David Landau to research that concept for us.

If sugarcane worked for Sergio, will Pure Cane Sugar, by the tablespoon, work for us?

Ellington



Good one Ellington!

Albert

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Acerimmer1

Ellington Darden wrote:
kurtvf wrote:
kulitsa wrote:
bobj wrote:
Not orange juice, but Coca Cola. I used to work out in the same Chicago gym as Sergio around 1972-1974. He worked out in the morning, like I did. One Sunday morning around 10:00am there were only about 4 of us working out and a bodybuilder posed in the mirror showing Sergio his impressive flexed arm (~17.5") and naming off the protein powders and other supplements he was using.

Sergio had been doing some short range pumping type bodyweight dips in a half-assed fashion and comes over to the mirror. He flexes his arm which was giant (very round, like a melon or soccer ball)and which totally dwarfed the other guy's arm. He points to it and laughs "Coca Cola".

The guy was amazing. I wasnt impressed with his work ethic, but he was huge and solid...no fat. I have never seen anybody like him since. My Dad was a cop and worked with him years later. he would wear short sleeved "cop shirts" but he had to slice the short sleeve so he could fit his arm into the shirt. Ridiculous.

Androgenic drugs truly work miracles. Especially, as per Sergio, when paired with a high dosage of high fructose corn syrup.

In Sergio's heyday Coke was made with cane sugar.....

Hold on. I remember Sergio talking about cutting sugarcane in Cuba throughout his teenage years. He said he would peel and chew the cane throughout the day.

Maybe sugarcane was his untold secret to massive size?

We've got to get David Landau to research that concept for us.

If sugarcane worked for Sergio, will Pure Cane Sugar, by the tablespoon, work for us?

Ellington



When I buy a sugar to load creatine it's always molasses. It has magnesium and B-Vitamins for starters.
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Ellington Darden

SanSooMan wrote:
Dr darden, do you think most of the current heavyweight bodybuilders have arms that are 20 or more inches? Many of the world's strongest men that are not fat look like they do. Any thoughts?


Those who weigh 260 pounds or more probably do have 20 inch arms. But they do not LOOK anywhere close to the size of Sergio's . . . and they have none of Sergio's symmetry.

Ellington
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Tom Traynor

Was at a seminar and Dr. Ken said Sergio would sit in a meeting--start drinking Coke and eating potato chips and just get massively vascular right before their eyes as he ate them.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

That's what you call high blood pressure, lol.
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BohicaBob

Sergio at 1983 AAU Mr. America in Tampa, FL
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Tom Traynor wrote:
Was at a seminar and Dr. Ken said Sergio would sit in a meeting--start drinking Coke and eating potato chips and just get massively vascular right before their eyes as he ate them.


==Scott==
We all have our vices. My wifes favorite thing in the world is Coke and potato chips. She can eat them all day and it she doesn't gain weight and it doesn't effect her blood pressure. Strangely enough it doesn't build her muscles up like Sergios, ha ha..I guess we all have different genetic traits that allow each of us to get away with some things that would harm another.
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Turpin

Sergio's arms were nowhere near the size ( to proportion ) , shape , nor definition ( at any time ) to that of Makkawy !!

T.
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Turpin

ANOTHER OF MAKKAWY !
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buddy 51

I can really in 70's in Chicago I met Ser gio. He was working at a small sporting goods store on Division street named the Bodybuilder Sports Shop. It sold regular athletic goods but it also sold bodybuilding equipment. They made custom welded equipment, too. The first time I came in the store Sergio was behind the counter. He had on a yellow gold shirt. At first glance he almost looked FAT in clothes. But then I saw the gigantic chest that tapered down in a pair of black slacks with a giant leather belt that was pulled tightly.

From split short sleeves giant arms were bursting out to giant hands that had thick fingers with several rings. His pants tried to cover his huge thighs. He stood there in a pair of boots that clicked when he walked on the wooden floor. For a few seconds mind mouth was dropped open. I was a 130lbs. kid whose 13" biceps looked liked straws. Sergio arms were bigger than my thighs. I was eyewitnessing the guy who I had seen in Weiders magazines know as "The Myth".

The old black and white photos with him wearing a chemical processed hairstyle. I finally got the nerve to talk to him....I asked him about his trip to Florida to train under Arthur Jones. Despite me reading every article about Nautilus in the hey days...Sergio softly said the machines were OK..he still believed conventional bodybuilding high volume training was the most effective. What a memory!!!
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