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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

What trouble... staying in at 10-12%? That is what is 'typical' for me. Trouble would be getting down to 5-6%, as per competition requirements/demands. It's gluttony that brings me beyond 12%... not a need for more calories, but the pleasure of eating excess calories for pleasure's sake... something I cannot do for very long without feeling more sluggish or 'crappy.'

I find it difficult to over-consume calories as I don't feel very well mentally or physically when doing so. Others may feel powerful and 'large' (or whatever), but I don't... I feel fat and shitty.
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Tomislav

New York, USA

Brian Johnston wrote:
What trouble... staying in at 10-12%? That is what is 'typical' for me. Trouble would be getting down to 5-6%, as per competition requirements/demands. It's gluttony that brings me beyond 12%... not a need for more calories, but the pleasure of eating excess calories for pleasure's sake... something I cannot do for very long without feeling more sluggish or 'crappy.'

I find it difficult to over-consume calories as I don't feel very well mentally or physically when doing so. Others may feel powerful and 'large' (or whatever), but I don't... I feel fat and shitty.


Excellent point Brian,
I think for many feeling fat can be due to cultural reinforcement and social pressure to be lean at all times and a top athlete or elite trainer like yourself may be more likely to experience this because their is an expectation of you to represent unrealistic cultural ideals on being fit.

Josh had to deal with his share of fat jokes and disappointment from fans who couldn't understand what he was doing but now we're going to see a tremendous example of an extended bulkbuilding phase yielding an extra 20 lbs of muscle (that figure was spot on btw) on an already very advanced natural athlete.

Bulkbuilding is old-school and it's no doubt working for you too; fine you don't want to post pics yet - you can just take enough lean pics when you trim down to last through your next under-the-suit bulkbuilding phase.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Stop reading into things and making stuff up... I feel like SHIT when I carry too much fat... I FEEL better and can think better when I'm at an appropriate body fat level and level of conditioning. I made that clear, and yet you still have to twist things around as though it's culture doing it to me and not a desire to look like shit, like you do, Mr. Six Pack.

THIS is why you irritate me and annoy me, and why I don't like corresponding with you. Massive bullshit artist.
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Tomislav

New York, USA

Brian Johnston wrote:
...I feel like SHIT when I carry too much fat... not a desire to look like shit, like you do, Mr. Six Pack.


Brian,
Instead of getting angry, consider that you are being unrealistic.

You equate how you feel with how you look and are influenced by lean fitness cultural norms; these are your perceptions - I don't think I look fat or look bad when I'm bulked up except to those maintaining the fantasy ideals of lean-fitness culture with it's year round lean gaining athletes.

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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

I think I know my feelings, and so how is that exaggerating?
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AShortt

Ontario, CAN

Tomislav wrote:
Brian Johnston wrote:
...I feel like SHIT when I carry too much fat... not a desire to look like shit, like you do, Mr. Six Pack.


Brian,
Instead of getting angry, consider that you are being unrealistic.

You equate how you feel with how you look and are influenced by lean fitness cultural norms; these are your perceptions - I don't think I look fat or look bad when I'm bulked up except to those maintaining the fantasy ideals of lean-fitness culture with it's year round lean gaining athletes.



I could say the same just in reverse. You are caught up in looking and feeling bigger/heavier. You are insecure about being shorter lighter less muscular when lean so you avoid it.

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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

He would drop down a good 40% in size if he actually got lean... to the point of having a six-pack.
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jitterbug

A man who would have his milk only raw was Armand Tanny. Armand was one
of the original big guys from the early Muscle Beach years. In fact, it
was men like Armand who put the muscle in ?Muscle Beach?. Although it
was his brother Vic who went on to create the popular gym chains,
Armand, originally a weightlifter, had a fantastic physique and a way of
eating that separated him from most.

Along with his great look, Tanny
had strength to match and this landed him in the wrestling circuit.
Armand recalled visiting the Hawaiian Islands around 1947 and being so
impressed with the Samoans who were in the islands after the war. ?They
ate everything raw. You name it, fish, meat, beetles ? everything!
They were so strong and healthy?.

This left such an impression on Tanny that upon returning to the USA, he
started to further investigate the subject. Already armed with his
previous university education and one year of medical school, Tanny had
the research skills to hunt down and dig into the works of Weston A.
Price. It wasn?t long before Price?s book ?Nutrition and Physical
Degeneration? became his Bible. In 1948 he shut off his stove and just
about everything from there on in was raw.

His diet turned to raw tuna, beef, liver, lobster, oysters, clams, nuts,
seeds, fruits and vegetables. Tanny would wade out into the surf along
the Santa Monica Pier using his feet to kick up Pismo clams. He would
smash the clams together to get at the pink and white flesh of the clams
that would be his next raw meal.

Gaylord Hauser, a nutritional guru of
that time also had an influence on Tanny. Hauser recommended brewer?s
yeast, desiccated liver, yogurt, black strap molasses, and wheat germ
oil. Hauser also recommended fish liver oil, but Tanny felt he was
getting plenty from all the raw fish he was consuming at the time.
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highheavy

Tennessee, USA

You could also reference a study called Pottenger's Cat's. It's commonly referenced by raw food enthusiasts. But the study was beyond poor in terms of controls and it did a great job of demonstrating the fact that cats are carnivores. Oh, one more thing. The sick cats in this study lacked an amino acid called taurine which is vital to a cat's nutrition. Doesn't do much to prove that people should eat raw food.
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Turpin

Whether you eat `raw` , eat `junk food ` or otherwise if it makes you fat / overweight it isn't doing you much good. Trentine is proof of that !

T.
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dipsrule

Pennsylvania, USA

I read on here about Dr.Ken mixing ice a raw meat in a blender using it as a meal.
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tifhw

Louisiana, USA

Turpin wrote:
Whether you eat `raw` , eat `junk food ` or otherwise if it makes you fat / overweight it isn't doing you much good. Trentine is proof of that !

T.


My best guess is that you desperately want to be him.
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Tika

Florida, USA

highheavy wrote:
You could also reference a study called Pottenger's Cat's. It's commonly referenced by raw food enthusiasts. But the study was beyond poor in terms of controls and it did a great job of demonstrating the fact that cats are carnivores. Oh, one more thing. The sick cats in this study lacked an amino acid called taurine which is vital to a cat's nutrition. Doesn't do much to prove that people should eat raw food.


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coomo

Brian Johnston wrote:
I think I know my feelings, and so how is that exaggerating?

I concour Brian.As you may or may not read in my earlier posts, im currently on a low calorie regime.
My Energy levels, both physically and mentally have skyrocketed.Last night I was up till 2am. practicing guitar, then up at 5.30am to go to the gym, raring to go.
On past experience,It would seem that when I reached a critical weight,or fat level?)
My system responds positively or
negatively.
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Turpin

tifhw wrote:
Turpin wrote:
Whether you eat `raw` , eat `junk food ` or otherwise if it makes you fat / overweight it isn't doing you much good. Trentine is proof of that !

T.

My best guess is that you desperately want to be him.


Ha , ha ... my guess is that Trentine wishes he had my genetics ( even then Ren-ex would be a waste of such ).

T.
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highheavy

Tennessee, USA

Hey Tika,

That's an awesome picture! But I don't think everyone that does 10/10 looks quite that bad.

Sure didn't work for me though - glad to be back on a Darden style routine.

I've produced better results in the last 3 weeks using his methods then in the last 2 years using those long duration sets, light weights and silly stop watches and clickers!

Thanks for the pic!
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ron33

highheavy wrote:
Hey Tika,

That's an awesome picture! But I don't think everyone that does 10/10 looks quite that bad.

Sure didn't work for me though - glad to be back on a Darden style routine.

I've produced better results in the last 3 weeks using his methods then in the last 2 years using those long duration sets, light weights and silly stop watches and clickers!

Thanks for the pic!

High Heavy, after seeing your post,i watched some of the vids on the ren-x training.To me it looked like most of the machines made the trainee lean forward at an awkward angle and looked like the emphasis was taken off the muscles you were supposed to be training,and it looked like your neck would be straining more than anything.Also why do they have the trainee doing all the little short breaths at the end of set.Wanted to get your input being you had done their deal.
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tifhw

Louisiana, USA

Turpin wrote:
tifhw wrote:
Turpin wrote:
Whether you eat `raw` , eat `junk food ` or otherwise if it makes you fat / overweight it isn't doing you much good. Trentine is proof of that !

T.

My best guess is that you desperately want to be him.

Ha , ha ... my guess is that Trentine wishes he had my genetics ( even then Ren-ex would be a waste of such ).

T.



Oh wow! You must have great bodybuilding genetics, what titles have you won?

So you are saying Joshua has awful bodybuilding genetics?

Tif
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highheavy

Tennessee, USA

Hi Ron,

I'll try to answer in an objective manner and point out that I have nothing in particular against the folks at RenEx other than the fact that they promote their ideas as being superior to others without a shred of evidence and I think that they make some VERY BAD training recommendations.

The breathing is simple - they have subjects perform exercises for a long duration - very long. I believe this hyperventilation is actually a hindrance in most cases. Why anyone would recommend sets outside of 2 minutes and in their case 5, is beyond me. The fact that this is counter-productive for hypertrophy is indubitable.

Equipment - some I actually think is well thought out - others abhorrent. The most clear example is the so-called "simple row" which I did use. The strength curve was off - WAY OFF. Heavy in the mid point and ZERO resistance in the fully contracted or as they prefer "finished position."

As to how they instruct on this machine - I think it's even more egregious. It's designed to be performed with the humerus externally rotated. I BELIEVE they instruct this because they think it is a more efficacious way to perform the exercise and target the rear delts, but this is not necessarily the case and in my opinion unsafe. Instead, the arms should be inwardly rotated with the palms facing the floor - much more shoulder friendly. The method they instruct is very similar to a martial arts move that can destroy a shoulder - the "key-lock."

As to the forward lean as well as anterior hip tilt - I cannot answer. The overhead press is perhaps the most bizarre design I've ever used. I experienced very little fatigue in my delts or triceps and mass fatigue in my abdominals.
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Tika

Florida, USA

highheavy wrote:
Hi Ron,

I'll try to answer in an objective manner and point out that I have nothing in particular against the folks at RenEx other than the fact that they promote their ideas as being superior to others without a shred of evidence and I think that they make some VERY BAD training recommendations.

The breathing is simple - they have subjects perform exercises for a long duration - very long. I believe this hyperventilation is actually a hindrance in most cases. Why anyone would recommend sets outside of 2 minutes and in their case 5, is beyond me. The fact that this is counter-productive for hypertrophy is indubitable.

Equipment - some I actually think is well thought out - others abhorrent. The most clear example is the so-called "simple row" which I did use. The strength curve was off - WAY OFF. Heavy in the mid point and ZERO resistance in the fully contracted or as they prefer "finished position."

As to how they instruct on this machine - I think it's even more egregious. It's designed to be performed with the humerus externally rotated. I BELIEVE they instruct this because they think it is a more efficacious way to perform the exercise and target the rear delts, but this is not necessarily the case and in my opinion unsafe. Instead, the arms should be inwardly rotated with the palms facing the floor - much more shoulder friendly. The method they instruct is very similar to a martial arts move that can destroy a shoulder - the "key-lock."

As to the forward lean as well as anterior hip tilt - I cannot answer. The overhead press is perhaps the most bizarre design I've ever used. I experienced very little fatigue in my delts or triceps and mass fatigue in my abdominals.



It's so bad that you guys can't stop talking about it.
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Tika

Florida, USA

Poor Joshy's shoulders! I understand that he has been using this machine for years as opposed to one time.

His poor shoulders must be a wreck. I wonder how he can even train to have such a great body?

T
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Acerimmer1

AShortt wrote:


So by example I started DL working sets at 225 and saw some gains to about 325 but then nothing on to 450. I could pull over 500 but what was the point...


You are really saying that your butt didn't grow and your lack of butt growth caused you to drop the exercise?
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Acerimmer1

highheavy wrote:

I've produced better results in the last 3 weeks using his methods then in the last 2 years using those long duration sets, light weights and silly stop watches and clickers!


No offense meant but if you can possibly have gained more in the last 2 weeks than the last 2 years, then Josh couldn't really fail to impress you could he.
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tifhw

Louisiana, USA

Acerimmer1 wrote:
highheavy wrote:

I've produced better results in the last 3 weeks using his methods then in the last 2 years using those long duration sets, light weights and silly stop watches and clickers!


No offense meant but if you can possibly have gained more in the last 2 weeks than the last 2 years, then Josh couldn't really fail to impress you could he.



He, he, he

TRUE!

You can see these guys have an agenda.
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highheavy

Tennessee, USA

Acerimmer1 wrote:
highheavy wrote:

I've produced better results in the last 3 weeks using his methods then in the last 2 years using those long duration sets, light weights and silly stop watches and clickers!


No offense meant but if you can possibly have gained more in the last 2 weeks than the last 2 years, then Josh couldn't really fail to impress you could he.


No offense taken. I think if anything it's demonstrative of what I was LOSING per their training suggestions. I went from having a half-way decent build to poor almost beyond description.

Now that I'm using Darden and AJ routines - the term growing like a weed is hardly overstating things.

But unlike their claims - I don't expect anyone to just take my word for it. That's why I will provide before and after pics, along with blood work and other measures as part of a study I'm currently participating in.

I am impressed by Josh's build - very impressed.

I have no agenda and I wish Josh tremendous success and lots of luck in November. Judging by his latest photos, he might need a little luck coming in at his best - time will tell.

He may go in and crush everybody and if that's the case, you cannot take anything away from him. And maybe he won't.

How does this show the efficacy of an approach? Where are all of the other great physiques RenEx has produced?

Show me just one perfect 10/10 bodybuilder/athlete or elite anything that this method produces. I've tried to find them and I can't because they are like unicorns and others creatures of myth...they do not exist!

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