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New York, USA

There are accurate ways to measure body fat. DEXA Scanning of course.
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HeavyHitter32

jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:


And there are posters on here who claim their training is superior to any other method, but your okay with that?

lol

You're a moron, seriously.

Mr. HeavyHitter32,

I noticed most of you guys avoid the hard questions.

Ed

Maybe we avoid the stupid and/or irrelevant questions you and a couple of others ask. You lack a lot of common sense to put it mildly.


Mr. HeavyHitter32,

Since you like to jump in I'll let you explain how variation on top of variation is required when many have progressed by using just a few basic exercises. I know a number of excellent bodybuilders that only use basic full range reps. How is it that Mr.Trentine only uses Leg Press and Leg Extension done at the same speed and range of motion to develop his thighs? If Mr.Johnston is correct how do you resolve this?

Ed


There are successes from almost ANY sort of training. A lot of things work to a point. I know of some individuals who are very muscular using 10-15 sets per muscle training five days per week on free weights. They carry more muscle than me, but that approach does not work for me. So, what? I have gained muscle on various protocols at one time or another during my 23 years of training.

Josh's legs don't seem to be proportionate to his upper body. This might just be genetic and/or could be influenced by his training. Someone posted he is using 2-3 minute TUT sets which seem extremely long. Maybe different approaches and being open to things outside of the SuperSlow mentality would allow him better progress? I don't know, but maybe.

I've had tunnel vision with certain training approaches before where you think this is the ONLY way to train, but you later realize it's not. It almost seems like that's the case with Josh based on when he used to post on this forum.
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farhad

Massachusetts, USA

HH32,

Agreed. That's why it is rational only to compare yourself to yourself and no one else.

Also, the current muscularity of trainees do not necessarily mean that their CURRENT training methodology is OPTIMUM for THEM, let alone anyone else. A few questions one should ask are

1) Could have these individuals achieve the same muscle mass and body fat levels with higher intensity, lower volume & lower frequency to achieve the same results?could they have made even better progress if they followed a HIT philosophy?


2) How long have been training? How long have they been following their current routine? Have they ever used steroids?

3) Do the benefits of performing 10-15 sets per muscle group, 5-6 days per week outweigh the costs?

Almost any training program works...to some extent. It depends on the context; many variables must be taken into account to determine which methodology to implement for the short term and long.

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HeavyHitter32

farhad,

Absolutely. This is why the topic is so confusing for so many people. One has to look past the surface when it comes to training and response. There are a lot of other pieces to consider, but the typical trainee never does, of course.
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jitterbug

Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
Mr. HeavyHitter32,

Since you like to jump in I'll let you explain how variation on top of variation is required when many have progressed by using just a few basic exercises. I know a number of excellent bodybuilders that only use basic full range reps. How is it that Mr.Trentine only uses Leg Press and Leg Extension done at the same speed and range of motion to develop his thighs? If Mr.Johnston is correct how do you resolve this?

Ed

Considering Trentines legs are poorly developed , perhaps his exercise choice and method is not optimal.

T.




Mr.Turpin,

You disagree with the one thing everyone here seems to agree on? We can only compare Mr.Trentine to Mr.Trentine 2013.
You can't measure the effectiveness of a method by absolute development or your particular standard. I think you know this and I think it's all personal for you. I saw the picture and "poorly developed" didn't come to mind.

Ed
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tifhw

Louisiana, USA

farhad wrote:
On a somewhat related to the original thread topic, is it just me or do others also feel that tattoos diminish the aesthetic value(appearance) of muscles, especially for a professional bodybuilder in a contest?

Do they take attention away from the muscle groups being judged? Do they cover too much of the striations? Do they have any effect on judges?



As a fellow competitor I have wondered the same but in the end who the fuck cares. IT IS SEXY AS HELL!

Tif
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tifhw

Louisiana, USA

Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:


And there are posters on here who claim their training is superior to any other method, but your okay with that?

lol

You're a moron, seriously.

Mr. HeavyHitter32,

I noticed most of you guys avoid the hard questions.

Ed

Maybe we avoid the stupid and/or irrelevant questions you and a couple of others ask. You lack a lot of common sense to put it mildly.


Mr. HeavyHitter32,

Since you like to jump in I'll let you explain how variation on top of variation is required when many have progressed by using just a few basic exercises. I know a number of excellent bodybuilders that only use basic full range reps. How is it that Mr.Trentine only uses Leg Press and Leg Extension done at the same speed and range of motion to develop his thighs? If Mr.Johnston is correct how do you resolve this?

Ed

Considering Trentines legs are poorly developed , perhaps his exercise choice and method is not optimal.

T.




This guy is a fucking idiot perhaps he's just a dealing with low self esteem.

Do you think Dave Goodin is going on sites and bad-mouthing other bodybuilders? no cuz he's too busy working out or preparing his food or working.

This sport has more haters than any other sport. It's embarrassing.
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Landau

Florida, USA

tifhw wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:


And there are posters on here who claim their training is superior to any other method, but your okay with that?

lol

You're a moron, seriously.

Mr. HeavyHitter32,

I noticed most of you guys avoid the hard questions.

Ed

Maybe we avoid the stupid and/or irrelevant questions you and a couple of others ask. You lack a lot of common sense to put it mildly.


Mr. HeavyHitter32,

Since you like to jump in I'll let you explain how variation on top of variation is required when many have progressed by using just a few basic exercises. I know a number of excellent bodybuilders that only use basic full range reps. How is it that Mr.Trentine only uses Leg Press and Leg Extension done at the same speed and range of motion to develop his thighs? If Mr.Johnston is correct how do you resolve this?

Ed

Considering Trentines legs are poorly developed , perhaps his exercise choice and method is not optimal.

T.




This guy is a fucking idiot perhaps he's just a dealing with low self esteem.

Do you think Dave Goodin is going on sites and bad-mouthing other bodybuilders? no cuz he's too busy working out or preparing his food or working.

This sport has more haters than any other sport. It's embarrassing.


It is Not a Sport, it is an Exhibition of Muscle if you Might. They used to have an element of Athleticism in Bodybuilding, but that was 50 plus years removed.
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Turpin

jitterbug wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
Mr. HeavyHitter32,

Since you like to jump in I'll let you explain how variation on top of variation is required when many have progressed by using just a few basic exercises. I know a number of excellent bodybuilders that only use basic full range reps. How is it that Mr.Trentine only uses Leg Press and Leg Extension done at the same speed and range of motion to develop his thighs? If Mr.Johnston is correct how do you resolve this?

Ed

Considering Trentines legs are poorly developed , perhaps his exercise choice and method is not optimal.

T.




Mr.Turpin,

You disagree with the one thing everyone here seems to agree on? We can only compare Mr.Trentine to Mr.Trentine 2013.
You can't measure the effectiveness of a method by absolute development or your particular standard. I think you know this and I think it's all personal for you. I saw the picture and "poorly developed" didn't come to mind.

Ed


Jittery Ed , I wouldn't argue that YOUR opinion of `poorly developed` is of a somewhat different standard than mine ( as is Trentines )

T.

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Turpin

tifhw wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:


And there are posters on here who claim their training is superior to any other method, but your okay with that?

lol

You're a moron, seriously.

Mr. HeavyHitter32,

I noticed most of you guys avoid the hard questions.

Ed

Maybe we avoid the stupid and/or irrelevant questions you and a couple of others ask. You lack a lot of common sense to put it mildly.


Mr. HeavyHitter32,

Since you like to jump in I'll let you explain how variation on top of variation is required when many have progressed by using just a few basic exercises. I know a number of excellent bodybuilders that only use basic full range reps. How is it that Mr.Trentine only uses Leg Press and Leg Extension done at the same speed and range of motion to develop his thighs? If Mr.Johnston is correct how do you resolve this?

Ed

Considering Trentines legs are poorly developed , perhaps his exercise choice and method is not optimal.

T.




This guy is a fucking idiot perhaps he's just a dealing with low self esteem.

Do you think Dave Goodin is going on sites and bad-mouthing other bodybuilders? no cuz he's too busy working out or preparing his food or working.

This sport has more haters than any other sport. It's embarrassing.


LOL ... Low self esteem ? , not on your life , Ive never been happier / more comfortable with my being as I am presently. ;)

As for `bad mouthing` look no further than Trentine previously on this forum for the ultimate in that.

T.

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jitterbug

Turpin wrote:
tifhw wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
jitterbug wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:


And there are posters on here who claim their training is superior to any other method, but your okay with that?

lol

You're a moron, seriously.

Mr. HeavyHitter32,

I noticed most of you guys avoid the hard questions.

Ed

Maybe we avoid the stupid and/or irrelevant questions you and a couple of others ask. You lack a lot of common sense to put it mildly.


Mr. HeavyHitter32,

Since you like to jump in I'll let you explain how variation on top of variation is required when many have progressed by using just a few basic exercises. I know a number of excellent bodybuilders that only use basic full range reps. How is it that Mr.Trentine only uses Leg Press and Leg Extension done at the same speed and range of motion to develop his thighs? If Mr.Johnston is correct how do you resolve this?

Ed

Considering Trentines legs are poorly developed , perhaps his exercise choice and method is not optimal.

T.




This guy is a fucking idiot perhaps he's just a dealing with low self esteem.

Do you think Dave Goodin is going on sites and bad-mouthing other bodybuilders? no cuz he's too busy working out or preparing his food or working.

This sport has more haters than any other sport. It's embarrassing.

LOL ... Low self esteem ? , not on your life , Ive never been happier / more comfortable with my being as I am presently. ;)

As for `bad mouthing` look no further than Trentine previously on this forum for the ultimate in that.

T.



Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed
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Turpin

jitterbug wrote:


Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed


I wouldn't give Ren-ex or Trentine further airspace by pulling the threads from the archives , but they are there.

As for not `thinking what I say` , don't kid yourself ... Trentines legs ( especially lower half ) are very poor considering he promotes himself as a pro-bodybuilder.

T.

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Tika

Florida, USA

Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:


Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed

I wouldn't give Ren-ex or Trentine further airspace by pulling the threads from the archives , but they are there.

As for not `thinking what I say` , don't kid yourself ... Trentines legs ( especially lower half ) are very poor considering he promotes himself as a pro-bodybuilder.

T.



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ron33

Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:


Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed

I wouldn't give Ren-ex or Trentine further airspace by pulling the threads from the archives , but they are there.

As for not `thinking what I say` , don't kid yourself ... Trentines legs ( especially lower half ) are very poor considering he promotes himself as a pro-bodybuilder.

T.



I here you, one time i put some response to a post about training,it wasnt about mr. trentine or his ren-x.and he put some kind of bitchy responce to my post and informed me that he was a real professional bber, as if i didnt know what i was talking about.i guess whatever i said got his posing trunks in an uproar.I was fortunate as a teenager when i was learning to train, to frequent the only golds gym at the time late 70s early 80s also Zuvers,Bill Pearls .I was lucky enough to see a majority of the pros from those days that competed in the Mr. O train.Those guys are the ones that i consider real pro bbers.Maybe some of these so called experts should use old school training methods,and they would actually look like pros they claim to be.
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Landau

Florida, USA

ron33 wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:


Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed

I wouldn't give Ren-ex or Trentine further airspace by pulling the threads from the archives , but they are there.

As for not `thinking what I say` , don't kid yourself ... Trentines legs ( especially lower half ) are very poor considering he promotes himself as a pro-bodybuilder.

T.



I here you, one time i put some response to a post about training,it wasnt about mr. trentine or his ren-x.and he put some kind of bitchy responce to my post and informed me that he was a real professional bber, as if i didnt know what i was talking about.i guess whatever i said got his posing trunks in an uproar.I was fortunate as a teenager when i was learning to train, to frequent the only golds gym at the time late 70s early 80s also Zuvers,Bill Pearls .I was lucky enough to see a majority of the pros from those days that competed in the Mr. O train.Those guys are the ones that i consider real pro bbers.Maybe some of these so called experts should use old school training methods,and they would actually look like pros they claim to be.


Interesting (Zuvers for Real) I also had early meetings with the Like - Dennis Tinnerino, Danny Padilla, Frank Zane, Robby Robinson Ed Corney Bill Grant Etc (at the Mr Olympia/Pro Universe 1977 - 1980) Also attended Seminars of Ron Gibson and Mike Kowach in the 1970s. Saw the Movie Pumping Iron when it was First Aired - Good Memories!
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ron33

Landau wrote:
ron33 wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:


Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed

I wouldn't give Ren-ex or Trentine further airspace by pulling the threads from the archives , but they are there.

As for not `thinking what I say` , don't kid yourself ... Trentines legs ( especially lower half ) are very poor considering he promotes himself as a pro-bodybuilder.

T.



I here you, one time i put some response to a post about training,it wasnt about mr. trentine or his ren-x.and he put some kind of bitchy responce to my post and informed me that he was a real professional bber, as if i didnt know what i was talking about.i guess whatever i said got his posing trunks in an uproar.I was fortunate as a teenager when i was learning to train, to frequent the only golds gym at the time late 70s early 80s also Zuvers,Bill Pearls .I was lucky enough to see a majority of the pros from those days that competed in the Mr. O train.Those guys are the ones that i consider real pro bbers.Maybe some of these so called experts should use old school training methods,and they would actually look like pros they claim to be.

Interesting (Zuvers for Real) I also had early meetings with the Like - Dennis Tinnerino, Danny Padilla, Frank Zane, Robby Robinson Ed Corney Bill Grant Etc (at the Mr Olympia/Pro Universe 1977 - 1980) Also attended Seminars of Ron Gibson and Mike Kowach in the 1970s. Saw the Movie Pumping Iron when it was First Aired - Good Memories!


Yes Sir, I was a young kid that trained because i was into dirt bikes,I belonged to a gym in san berdoo co. that was just opening, the owner bought his equipment from Zuver, i used to help him when he picked up the equipment and i remember Zuver seemed like a intense guy we'd get in a workout while there.Remember 1st time at Golds.kind of intimidating,but guys like Grymko and Tom Platz were pretty Cool and made you feel not too out of place.A lot of Good And some Funny memories like you said.At the time really didnt give much thought to how neat it all was.My friend that owned the gym i went to,had a 69 Mach1 and a few of us guys would pile in ,take the car pool lane on the 10 freeway and be doin about 80 mph passed morning rush hr. traffic down to Santa Monica .We would workout and spend the rest of day hanging out in Venice beach watching all the goings on.
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Tika

Florida, USA

ron33 wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:


Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed

I wouldn't give Ren-ex or Trentine further airspace by pulling the threads from the archives , but they are there.

As for not `thinking what I say` , don't kid yourself ... Trentines legs ( especially lower half ) are very poor considering he promotes himself as a pro-bodybuilder.

T.



I here you, one time i put some response to a post about training,it wasnt about mr. trentine or his ren-x.and he put some kind of bitchy responce to my post and informed me that he was a real professional bber, as if i didnt know what i was talking about.i guess whatever i said got his posing trunks in an uproar.I was fortunate as a teenager when i was learning to train, to frequent the only golds gym at the time late 70s early 80s also Zuvers,Bill Pearls .I was lucky enough to see a majority of the pros from those days that competed in the Mr. O train.Those guys are the ones that i consider real pro bbers.Maybe some of these so called experts should use old school training methods,and they would actually look like pros they claim to be.



lol, Is that what really happened? Joshy was a big bully to all of you? That's not the Joshua I know. I bet you won't post this conversation either. I've never seen him attack anyone like that, but he is nasty when deserved.
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Landau

Florida, USA

ron33 wrote:
Landau wrote:
ron33 wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:


Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed

I wouldn't give Ren-ex or Trentine further airspace by pulling the threads from the archives , but they are there.

As for not `thinking what I say` , don't kid yourself ... Trentines legs ( especially lower half ) are very poor considering he promotes himself as a pro-bodybuilder.

T.



I here you, one time i put some response to a post about training,it wasnt about mr. trentine or his ren-x.and he put some kind of bitchy responce to my post and informed me that he was a real professional bber, as if i didnt know what i was talking about.i guess whatever i said got his posing trunks in an uproar.I was fortunate as a teenager when i was learning to train, to frequent the only golds gym at the time late 70s early 80s also Zuvers,Bill Pearls .I was lucky enough to see a majority of the pros from those days that competed in the Mr. O train.Those guys are the ones that i consider real pro bbers.Maybe some of these so called experts should use old school training methods,and they would actually look like pros they claim to be.

Interesting (Zuvers for Real) I also had early meetings with the Like - Dennis Tinnerino, Danny Padilla, Frank Zane, Robby Robinson Ed Corney Bill Grant Etc (at the Mr Olympia/Pro Universe 1977 - 1980) Also attended Seminars of Ron Gibson and Mike Kowach in the 1970s. Saw the Movie Pumping Iron when it was First Aired - Good Memories!

Yes Sir, I was a young kid that trained because i was into dirt bikes,I belonged to a gym in san berdoo co. that was just opening, the owner bought his equipment from Zuver, i used to help him when he picked up the equipment and i remember Zuver seemed like a intense guy we'd get in a workout while there.Remember 1st time at Golds.kind of intimidating,but guys like Grymko and Tom Platz were pretty Cool and made you feel not too out of place.A lot of Good And some Funny memories like you said.At the time really didnt give much thought to how neat it all was.My friend that owned the gym i went to,had a 69 Mach1 and a few of us guys would pile in ,take the car pool lane on the 10 freeway and be doin about 80 mph passed morning rush hr. traffic down to Santa Monica .We would workout and spend the rest of day hanging out in Venice beach watching all the goings on.


Gymkowski was BIG and Guest Posed at the VIP Contest in Niles Ohio - we met him twice after the Show at Perkins Pancake House - He was Funny, Nice - mellowed out on (Scotch/Ludes). The Pros were very Cool at the Olympia - Lisa Lyon we met at the 1980 Pro Universe along with Stacey Bentley......
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ron33

What people of my generation would call a Bitch reply ,not very manly.
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ron33

Remember Lisa Lyon and only one or two other ladies at that time.There was a strawberry blond young lady that used to train in a see thru top in the back room on the Nautilus equipment ,she really drew attention when using the duo chest machine.Was lucky enough to be there when Jessup Wilkosz was training for Mr.Universe,also we worked in with Big louie trainin back.

Really liked watching the Twins-Barbarian Bros. Train.One funny thing was seeing Big Louie leavin park garage across from Golds,We thought he be drivin some exotic car,and he pulls out cramed in a little honda civic which were pretty small back then.My buddy said Man hows he get In that Thing! and big lou says Screw Yous Guys in his New York accent to which we all busted out Laughin.
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Tomislav

New York, USA

Tika wrote:
ron33 wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:


Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed

I wouldn't give Ren-ex or Trentine further airspace by pulling the threads from the archives , but they are there.

As for not `thinking what I say` , don't kid yourself ... Trentines legs ( especially lower half ) are very poor considering he promotes himself as a pro-bodybuilder.

T.



I here you, one time i put some response to a post about training,it wasnt about mr. trentine or his ren-x.and he put some kind of bitchy responce to my post and informed me that he was a real professional bber, as if i didnt know what i was talking about.i guess whatever i said got his posing trunks in an uproar.I was fortunate as a teenager when i was learning to train, to frequent the only golds gym at the time late 70s early 80s also Zuvers,Bill Pearls .I was lucky enough to see a majority of the pros from those days that competed in the Mr. O train.Those guys are the ones that i consider real pro bbers.Maybe some of these so called experts should use old school training methods,and they would actually look like pros they claim to be.


lol, Is that what really happened? Joshy was a big bully to all of you? That's not the Joshua I know. I bet you won't post this conversation either. I've never seen him attack anyone like that, but he is nasty when deserved.


Good post Tika! Competing as a natural heavyweight is impressive considering most natural bb's are much lighter like figure; provided Josh doesn't overdiet and lose muscle, that extended bulking phase with raw food is going to show gains at an already advanced level - that is Old School.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Landau wrote:
tifhw wrote:
Turpin wrote:
Considering Trentines legs are poorly developed , perhaps his exercise choice and method is not optimal.

T.




This guy is a fucking idiot perhaps he's just a dealing with low self esteem.

Do you think Dave Goodin is going on sites and bad-mouthing other bodybuilders? no cuz he's too busy working out or preparing his food or working.

This sport has more haters than any other sport. It's embarrassing.

It is Not a Sport, it is an Exhibition of Muscle if you Might. They used to have an element of Athleticism in Bodybuilding, but that was 50 plus years removed.



==Scott==
I agree, it is not a sport. Wow, I find I'm agreeing with David more all the time!! Guys, Let's not argue this again. It's been argued on here multiple times.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

jitterbug wrote:
Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed


===Scott==
Ed, what is with you and this fixation on arguing about Joshua on here? It's quite obvious that Joshua's way is like oil and water on here, they don't go well together yet you keep bringing him up.Joshua doesn't even like the arguments that come up on his own forum hense he formed his own pay as you go"Inner Circle" of cronies who won't challenge him.

Joshua's REN-EX forum had lot's of good stuff on it and I enjoyed reading it almost as much as this forum but with out anyone questioning anything REN-EX says it really becomes more of a hype outlet than forum of discussion. I suggest you pay and join the Inner Circle.
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ron33

Tomislav wrote:
Tika wrote:
ron33 wrote:
Turpin wrote:
jitterbug wrote:


Mr.Turpin,

I have to agree with Ms.Tif, I think this is all personal I don't believe that you even think what you say.

I also don't think you have any examples of him going after you or anyone else maybe you are just hurt inside?

Ed

I wouldn't give Ren-ex or Trentine further airspace by pulling the threads from the archives , but they are there.

As for not `thinking what I say` , don't kid yourself ... Trentines legs ( especially lower half ) are very poor considering he promotes himself as a pro-bodybuilder.

T.



I here you, one time i put some response to a post about training,it wasnt about mr. trentine or his ren-x.and he put some kind of bitchy responce to my post and informed me that he was a real professional bber, as if i didnt know what i was talking about.i guess whatever i said got his posing trunks in an uproar.I was fortunate as a teenager when i was learning to train, to frequent the only golds gym at the time late 70s early 80s also Zuvers,Bill Pearls .I was lucky enough to see a majority of the pros from those days that competed in the Mr. O train.Those guys are the ones that i consider real pro bbers.Maybe some of these so called experts should use old school training methods,and they would actually look like pros they claim to be.


lol, Is that what really happened? Joshy was a big bully to all of you? That's not the Joshua I know. I bet you won't post this conversation either. I've never seen him attack anyone like that, but he is nasty when deserved.

Good post Tika! Competing as a natural heavyweight is impressive considering most natural bb's are much lighter like figure; provided Josh doesn't overdiet and lose muscle, that extended bulking phase with raw food is going to show gains at an already advanced level - that is Old School.


the fella named josh did not bully me,just put a responce to something I posted.that to me sounded bitchy and like he thought he was the end word on the subject matter.being he considered himself a pro bber.I learned what to do to bullies as a little kid and generally afterward they weren't bullies anymore.
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I now remember why I stopped posting on this forum. Just thought I`d see what`s going on since it had been a while. Guess I`ll stay away for a bit longer... lol.

Good luck to all competitors. See you at the show!

Dan
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