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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Tomislav wrote:
Brian,
I think you've miss the point about bulkbuilding; Josh doesn't have to drop 60 lbs this time around, probably just 40 - that leaves 20 lbs of additional lean mass gained from an extended bulkbuilding phase of five years.


Seriously? Making up stuff now? How do you KNOW this? Please explain how you know that he needs to lose only 40 pounds to lose and that he actually gained 20 pounds. Please provide your proof. This is a clear example of you making up facts as you see fit. How about you... did you gain 20 pounds of muscle since doing your bulking BS?

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Tika

Florida, USA

duesingbc wrote:
I wonder if Josh is going to get a lower back tramp stamp that says "REN" with a baby blue thong that has a giant "X" on the ass cheeks. One can only hope...



How could you possibly get an X on the ass cheek of a thong? There's no material on the back of a thong. These guys obviously don't get laid much...at least not by women.

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Tomislav

New York, USA

Brian Johnston wrote:
Tomislav wrote:
Brian,
I think you've miss the point about bulkbuilding; Josh doesn't have to drop 60 lbs this time around, probably just 40 - that leaves 20 lbs of additional lean mass gained from an extended bulkbuilding phase of five years.


Seriously? Making up stuff now? How do you KNOW this? Please explain how you know that he needs to lose only 40 pounds to lose and that he actually gained 20 pounds.

Because it's clear from the last two pics he put a lot of muscle on.

Please provide your proof.

5 years of bulk building with a lot of milk, eggs and raw food.


This is a clear example of you making up facts as you see fit. How about you... did you gain 20 pounds of muscle since doing your bulking BS?

Instead of changing the subject how about this - prove to the contrary by matching either of those last two pics just as you were able to do with his before pics, prior to the 5 year bulkbuilding phase.
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dipsrule

Pennsylvania, USA

Tika wrote:
duesingbc wrote:
I wonder if Josh is going to get a lower back tramp stamp that says "REN" with a baby blue thong that has a giant "X" on the ass cheeks. One can only hope...


How could you possibly get an X on the ass cheek of a thong? There's no material on the back of a thong. These guys obviously don't get laid much...at least not by women.



Tika your reply is priceless.
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duesingbc

Illinois, USA

Tika wrote:
duesingbc wrote:
I wonder if Josh is going to get a lower back tramp stamp that says "REN" with a baby blue thong that has a giant "X" on the ass cheeks. One can only hope...


How could you possibly get an X on the ass cheek of a thong? There's no material on the back of a thong. These guys obviously don't get laid much...at least not by women.

Well played Tika LOL. Looking at your Avatar it looks as though you've had some work done. Good for you. Personally, I like plastic surgery because plastic surgery allows you the rare opportunity in life to let your outer appearance reflect your inner appearance....fake.


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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Tom, if you had any brains, you would want to compare Josh in those two photos... compare Josh to himself. But since we're on the subject, how about YOU compare yourself in those two photos, since you are the King of Bulk (and BS)... since it is YOU who thinks muscle turns to fat, YOU do the comparison.

Do you see how idiotic this is... you wanting to compare me to Josh as though THAT proves he gained muscle... rather than comparing Josh to himself? How do you not get that?

Then again, when someone close to him states that he will need to lose upward of 60 pounds, whereas you are claiming he only needs to lose 40 pounds, since the other 20 is muscle (which suggests Josh doesn't know how to get lean for competition and will sacrifice 20 pounds of muscle) puts your 'expertise' in a whole different light.

And let us not forget, that we are waiting on your before and after photos to prove the bulkbuilding process... as well as your six-pack photo.
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Tomislav

New York, USA

Brian Johnston wrote:
Tom, if you had any brains, you would want to compare Josh in those two photos... compare Josh to himself. But since we're on the subject, how about YOU compare yourself in those two photos, since you are the King of Bulk (and BS)... since it is YOU who thinks muscle turns to fat, YOU do the comparison.

Do you see how idiotic this is... you wanting to compare me to Josh as though THAT proves he gained muscle... rather than comparing Josh to himself? How do you not get that?


Brian,
you had made it a point to illustrate you could match Josh's old pics but can't now that he's (obviously) gained more muscle from bulkbuilding.


Then again, when someone close to him states that he will need to lose upward of 60 pounds, whereas you are claiming he only needs to lose 40 pounds, since the other 20 is muscle (which suggests Josh doesn't know how to get lean for competition and will sacrifice 20 pounds of muscle) puts your 'expertise' in a whole different light.


You are perhaps reading what you want to see; Tika stated the athlete was 60 lbs over his previous contest weight, not that he was dropping 60 lbs.


And let us not forget, that we are waiting on your before and after photos to prove the bulkbuilding process... as well as your six-pack photo.


LOL! You added more rules that I needed a current Newspaper and a Tripod.

You make so much sport it would be funny if you have been secretly bulking up for years under your suit :)
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Who said I can't match his current condition? I didn't... you are Assuming that. When I see your six pack photo, I'll post an updated one of myself. And rules, you say? Don't take a blurry photo and prove it's recent with a current magazine or newspaper? LOL.

Just set the camera up on a friggin table or something, so you don't have to buy a tripod. And newspapers or magazines are cheap enough... no? Coward and big talker behind the keyboard.
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jitterbug

Brian Johnston wrote:
Who said I can't match his current condition? I didn't... you are Assuming that. When I see your six pack photo, I'll post an updated one of myself. And rules, you say? Don't take a blurry photo and prove it's recent with a current magazine or newspaper? LOL.

Just set the camera up on a friggin table or something, so you don't have to buy a tripod. And newspapers or magazines are cheap enough... no? Coward and big talker behind the keyboard.



Mr.Johnston,

It seems to me that most here will talk much about what they "could do". Only to criticize those who are actually doing.

Ed
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Mr. Strong

Brian Johnston wrote:
Tom, if you had any brains, you would want to compare Josh in those two photos... compare Josh to himself. But since we're on the subject, how about YOU compare yourself in those two photos, since you are the King of Bulk (and BS)... since it is YOU who thinks muscle turns to fat, YOU do the comparison.

Do you see how idiotic this is... you wanting to compare me to Josh as though THAT proves he gained muscle... rather than comparing Josh to himself? How do you not get that?

Then again, when someone close to him states that he will need to lose upward of 60 pounds, whereas you are claiming he only needs to lose 40 pounds, since the other 20 is muscle (which suggests Josh doesn't know how to get lean for competition and will sacrifice 20 pounds of muscle) puts your 'expertise' in a whole different light.

And let us not forget, that we are waiting on your before and after photos to prove the bulkbuilding process... as well as your six-pack photo.


You bulked up to a heavier weight then leaned down, and are now working on getting towards that heavier weight in better condition, you wouldn't find it as easy if you hadn't bulked to that heavier weight previously.
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Mr. Strong

Brian Johnston wrote:
Who said I can't match his current condition? I didn't... you are Assuming that. When I see your six pack photo, I'll post an updated one of myself. And rules, you say? Don't take a blurry photo and prove it's recent with a current magazine or newspaper? LOL.

Just set the camera up on a friggin table or something, so you don't have to buy a tripod. And newspapers or magazines are cheap enough... no? Coward and big talker behind the keyboard.


You haven't posted a single current pic, you only ever post pics after getting in shape for short periods. Never a full body honest shot representative of how your physique looks all year round.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Mr. Strong... until you post ONE photo, you have nothing to comment on. I'm still 212 pounds... I'm not leaning down. I have no problem in posting a current photo, as if that means anything to you, but would like those who are critical to do so first... then we can compare.

I await your photo, along with the video of the 'perfect' squat form you speak about. By the way, I'll be done shooting video by the end of October and I won't be hiding behind anything as I need to demonstrate proper application... I have nothing to hide.
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duesingbc

Illinois, USA

Mr. Strong,

I would like to see a pic as well. Why not? Hell, I'll do it. I just have no idea how. New to all this. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Turpin

Tomislav wrote:

Instead of changing the subject how about this - prove to the contrary by matching either of those last two pics just as you were able to do with his before pics, prior to the 5 year bulkbuilding phase.



Tomi , anyone could match Trentine for muscularity in those last pics and a fair few could upstage him on proportion & definition ( he`s not a good pro bodybuilder ) .... BUT as Brian has alluded to , has Trentine become more muscular with both Ren-ex and overeating ? ..... in my opinion , NO he hasn't !

T.
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Tomislav

New York, USA

Brian Johnston wrote:
Who said I can't match his current condition? I didn't... you are Assuming that. When I see your six pack photo, I'll post an updated one of myself. And rules, you say? Don't take a blurry photo and prove it's recent with a current magazine or newspaper? LOL.

Just set the camera up on a friggin table or something, so you don't have to buy a tripod. And newspapers or magazines are cheap enough... no? Coward and big talker behind the keyboard.


Don't be ridiculous Brian, you're right about the Tripod requirement: everyone who's serious about taking a picture should have one.

This low-end model features an metal aluminium alloy frame, precision steel swivel bearing and telescoping non-skid struts. And, it only set me back about $1 retail; there's no reason anyone can't have a Tripod today.

Sure if you want to be posh you can pay alot more for a Titanium alloy Vangaurd, is that what you've got? You want to talk the talk let's see you talk about your Tripod. And you better post a Tripod pic to back it up or you're just another camera balancing internet Tripod pretender.

Now we're not children and the six-pack pic I have is from two months ago, when I posted the arm pic but without the pump - you've been adding rules since I offered to post it.

Let's take a poll here with some of the large athletes like Ace and Turpin; if my six-pack pic from two months ago should suffice:

I post the six-pack pic (not blurry just low res because the room with good lighting is familiar) and Brian posts his own pic at whatever resolution he fancies with no more additional rules!
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Being able to SEE a person's abdominals without shadows cast over the body is ideal, but then again... that's a requirement. Sorry.
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Tomislav

New York, USA

Brian Johnston wrote:
Being able to SEE a person's abdominals without shadows cast over the body is ideal, but then again... that's a requirement. Sorry.


LOL! Mr Strong right again and he's onto you - you are bulkbuilding too!

You are going to show your bulkbuilding results after trimming down and then call it leangaining. Might as well say you did it with Weider Mega packs :)

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Tika

Florida, USA

Turpin wrote:
Tomislav wrote:

Instead of changing the subject how about this - prove to the contrary by matching either of those last two pics just as you were able to do with his before pics, prior to the 5 year bulkbuilding phase.



Tomi , anyone could match Trentine for muscularity in those last pics and a fair few could upstage him on proportion & definition ( he`s not a good pro bodybuilder ) .... BUT as Brian has alluded to , has Trentine become more muscular with both Ren-ex and overeating ? ..... in my opinion , NO he hasn't !

T.



I'll bet my convertible Mustang that you eat your words on this.
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Tika

Florida, USA

Turpin wrote:
Tomislav wrote:

Instead of changing the subject how about this - prove to the contrary by matching either of those last two pics just as you were able to do with his before pics, prior to the 5 year bulkbuilding phase.



Tomi , anyone could match Trentine for muscularity in those last pics and a fair few could upstage him on proportion & definition ( he`s not a good pro bodybuilder ) .... BUT as Brian has alluded to , has Trentine become more muscular with both Ren-ex and overeating ? ..... in my opinion , NO he hasn't !

T.


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Turpin

Tika wrote:
Turpin wrote:
Tomislav wrote:

Instead of changing the subject how about this - prove to the contrary by matching either of those last two pics just as you were able to do with his before pics, prior to the 5 year bulkbuilding phase.



Tomi , anyone could match Trentine for muscularity in those last pics and a fair few could upstage him on proportion & definition ( he`s not a good pro bodybuilder ) .... BUT as Brian has alluded to , has Trentine become more muscular with both Ren-ex and overeating ? ..... in my opinion , NO he hasn't !

T.



I'll bet my convertible Mustang that you eat your words on this.


I really don't think so ! .... Trentine has not gained any more muscle ( certainly not improved his appearance ) with Ren-ex than the average guy who is serious and consistent with his training and uses conventional training method.

T.

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Mr. Strong

Tomislav wrote:
Brian Johnston wrote:
Being able to SEE a person's abdominals without shadows cast over the body is ideal, but then again... that's a requirement. Sorry.

LOL! Mr Strong right again and he's onto you - you are bulkbuilding too!

You are going to show your bulkbuilding results after trimming down and then call it leangaining. Might as well say you did it with Weider Mega packs :)



Probably using rep/weight progression as well, but it will be claimed that constant variety and lean gaining is what produced the results.
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

I was trying to find some old photos of Bill Grant using a fog machine on stage, to give Josh some ideas for his aiding his posing routine, but someone appears to have made sure there are none around.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Mr. Strong wrote:
Tomislav wrote:
Brian Johnston wrote:
Being able to SEE a person's abdominals without shadows cast over the body is ideal, but then again... that's a requirement. Sorry.

LOL! Mr Strong right again and he's onto you - you are bulkbuilding too!

You are going to show your bulkbuilding results after trimming down and then call it leangaining. Might as well say you did it with Weider Mega packs :)


Probably using rep/weight progression as well, but it will be claimed that constant variety and lean gaining is what produced the results.


This already was explained before, but I realize it's difficult to remember when studying your high school subjects...

Variation is not enough... progression in loading is not enough... one must integrate both of them. If a person were to do a new type of program, and 100 pounds can be used without great difficulty, it only makes sense that more weight, more reps or both be added to the mix next time.

If something changes every workout, then the max weight (appropriate to the method) is to be used. If the max weight or attempting max reps, etc., is part of the goal, then progression always is a factor within the concept of variation; a person always is attempting to achieve the optimum in performance even when making regular change. Hope that helps, junior.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

I don't bulk than lean down, by the way, children. I maintain a reasonably lean body weight year round, of about 10-12%. I prefer staying at 10%, but might increase slightly on holidays due to lack of activity and over-eating and drinking wine, etc. However, that's for a week 1-2 times a year and not for 3 years straight, lol.
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jitterbug

Brian Johnston wrote:
I don't bulk than lean down, by the way, children. I maintain a reasonably lean body weight year round, of about 10-12%. I prefer staying at 10%, but might increase slightly on holidays due to lack of activity and over-eating and drinking wine, etc. However, that's for a week 1-2 times a year and not for 3 years straight, lol.


Mr.Johnston,

Why would you go to all of that trouble? Your are not a competitive bodybuilder trying to reach the edges of your potential.

Ed
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