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Rather than debating which brand of equipment or which movement is the best, I was curious to restrict the discussion to a singular equipment brand - that being hammer strength..

What would you all think was the top 5 hammer strength machines and why ?
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Landau

Florida, USA

2 Unique/Simple/Effective - Hammer Gripper and the Hammer Tibia Machines - Take up little space and provide again Unique Function
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

If I had to choose out of that pile...

Plate loaded Pullover
- better than most Nautilus models
- very smooth
Plate loaded Decline Chest
- great convergence on this one
Plate loaded 4-way neck
- very smooth
Plate loaded biceps
- probably one of the best out there
- very smooth
Selectorized Lateral Rise
- I use it as a 70 degree chest movement
- very smooth
Selectorized Dip
- heavy stack
- very smooth
- handle design allows reverse grip
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coalman426

I like the seated shrug,decline and midrow.didnt like the shoulder press.always wanted to try the ten degree.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Landau wrote:
2 Unique/Simple/Effective - Hammer Gripper and the Hammer Tibia Machines - Take up little space and provide again Unique Function


I recall seeing the Hammer lying rotator cuff. The Shoulder Horn may have put a crimp in their business, but I was always curious as to the feel and quality.
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

High Rows: Great arc-of-motion somewhere between a pulldown and a row.

Alt Biceps: I've only seen this one place. It's a selectorized-plate machine that emphasizes full biceps contraction like old Nautilus machines, but even more so. The elbow rests on a pad angled UP and away from the torso.

High Incline: Great angle that empasizes front delts, with plenty of upper pec too.

Decline Press;
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

coalman426 wrote:
I like the seated shrug,decline and midrow.didnt like the shoulder press.always wanted to try the ten degree.


Their 10 degree is not that good. I think that would be common for all plate loaded 10 degree or whatever degree versions.
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

simon-hecubus wrote:
Alt Biceps: I've only seen this one place. It's a selectorized-plate machine that emphasizes full biceps contraction like old Nautilus machines, but even more so. The elbow rests on a pad angled UP and away from the torso.



Agreed, that is a good one, better than any Nautilus I have tested.
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Daranman14

I really like the plate loaded chest press. Great pre stretch and the strength curve was perfect for me.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

When I was at Gold's in Venice, CA, they had the horizontal leg press. It must have been a good 6 feet high off the ground (you had to climb a ladder to get on it)... I liked the mechanics of it... lying down while leg pressing forward. Anyone try one? The size of that thing made the Duo Squat look small, lol.
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MDieguez

That's the Hammer H squat. I have never tried one but I have heard nothing but good things about it.
Mike
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Brian A Schamber

Texas, USA

The H squat is enormous. It is like being on a sacrificial altar. You press out and downward as it gets the low back, hips and butt involved.
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HeavyHitter32

Brian Johnston wrote:
When I was at Gold's in Venice, CA, they had the horizontal leg press. It must have been a good 6 feet high off the ground (you had to climb a ladder to get on it)... I liked the mechanics of it... lying down while leg pressing forward. Anyone try one? The size of that thing made the Duo Squat look small, lol.


I've seen a picture of that thing...always looked very fascinating.
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strengthmaster

Michigan, USA

We have the Hammer Strength H-Squat. It's a good piece. The strength curve is NOT as good as the Nautilus Duo-Squat. And although it is really tall, it does not take up anymore floor space than Hammer's leg presses. The range of motion on it with 1 or 2 legs is outstanding.

We like to do it one leg at a time, then follow it up with a body weight or dumbbell lunge. It drastically reduces the need to use heavy dumbbells. You can fatigue the quads, hsms, and glutes much more thoroughly than lunges alone.

If you find one at a great price, have the floor space (high enough ceiling), it may be worth having. Strictly as a leg press device, I think there are better pieces out there though. As I said, we use it one-legged, we have 2 Pendulum Power Squats that we like better for squatting.
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sirloin

My gym has several hammer pieces, I don't like any of them, they feel very unnatural and irritate my joints.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

I never cared for the Pendulum squat... it felt more like an 'ass' machine to me.
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strengthmaster

Michigan, USA

We like all the Hammer pieces we have. I've used them all. It should be remembered that
the Hammer Strength machines were designed to be stripped down, more affordable strength training machines. Like any other machines, they will not fit everyone perfectly. But, some of the designs are pretty ingenious. Arthur Jones' son Gary was the chief designer of them.
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coalman426

Sounds like I need a pendulum.does it get the rear as good as lunges.been wondering about the hip and back.I've seen quite a few of those cheap but I'm scared to tie up the space.it's gettin tight.overall I'm pretty happy with belt squats.probably the best tip I've gotten on this site.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

I'd rather do lunges and regular squats than the Pendulum squat, but that's my experience.
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strengthmaster

Michigan, USA

Hip and back: under appreciated piece of equipment. We have one, and use it mainly for athletes with a knee or ankle issue that can't squat or leg press. But, if space is at a premium, I'd pass on it.

Pendulum Power Squat: Great machine! Allows you to top load to emphasize the glutes or bottom load to emphasize the quads, or split the weight load top and bottom to match the barbell squat strength curve. The free-floating shoulder yoke doesn't lock you in like other "squat machines". There is "freedom of movement". It more closely simulates a barbell squat, but you can change the strength curve if you wish. We have 2 of the original Tyler Hobson designs. Got 2 of them for $1100.

Scott
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

Pendulum squat is awesome. Never has a chance to test H Squat. Honestly, I do not think Hammer makes even decent lower body pieces at best they are subpar just like the bulk of the stuff manufactured by them. There are ink a handful that I personal like and that's that. If you are looking for good leg pieces, look elsewhere and make sure you bypass Avenger LP as well. Not worth the money, overhyped device, somewhere on the level of hammer.
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

coalman426 wrote:
Sounds like I need a pendulum.does it get the rear as good as lunges.been wondering about the hip and back.I've seen quite a few of those cheap but I'm scared to tie up the space.it's gettin tight.overall I'm pretty happy with belt squats.probably the best tip I've gotten on this site.


Check Atlantis. They have a rep in New York. I can give you his #
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strengthmaster

Michigan, USA

Brian,

I have no problem with a personal preference. Yours' is one of the few opinions and experiences I value on this site. Everyone will speak from a different point of view. I train myself and I train high school athletes. Done so for 30 years. And in that time, learned from some of the best Division 1 college and pro strength coaches in the country and adapted that to the population I train.

In my own case: I cannot barbell squat anymore. Pattelar tendon is one level above arthritic. The Pendulum allows me keep the lower leg perpendicular to the floor and still squat to a below parallel depth without pain and discomfort. Similar to what you can do with the Zane leg blaster or a Yoke squat bar. High school athletes also can master the Pendulum much faster than a barbell. The only athletes I barbell squat are ones going on to college ball or ones that prefer it and can do it well.

That's the point of view I'm speaking from. Personal preference is great. What I have a problem with is Bias, which is pretty prevalent on this site and many others.

We have Hammer Strength, Nautilus, Avenger, and Pendulum machines in our facility. We like all the ones we have, or I'd get rid of them. In addition to our machines we barbell and dumbbell bench, incline, and shoulder press, RDL, and Trap bar deadlift. Besides those, we use some bands and manual resistance. That's what we and I do.

Scott
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

What I don't like about the Pendulum squat is how the butt tends to shift out a lot, even when you're not aware of it or trying to do it. I built up to some huge loads on it, but my legs did not measure any better... the harder I trained on it, the more I I feel my butt working on it. I never got that from the Zane Leg Blaster, likely because of the straight-arm locked position that maintains positioning better.
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frostyF

Arkansas, USA

One of my friends has the H-Squat,but he lives 70 miles away.I try to visit and use it two to three times a year.It's great.Kind of like a leg press and hip extension rolled into one piece.He has an adjustable stop chain on it to prevent knee lockout/knee hyper-extension.
Leon
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