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HeavyHitter32

hit4me wrote:

thats about it...right before i begin to really strain or grip tightly or twist/arc some of my body parts



Yep, plenty of intensity at that point.
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StuKE

hit4me wrote:
StuKE wrote:
hit4me wrote:
sirloin wrote:
hit4me wrote:
everyone has to remember, heavy weight is relative

what i can do to ten reps, does not mean someone else can do the same weight or vice versa for ten reps

as for blood pressure..........don't do any straining of the neck, face or grip

This is why i normally use inverted comma's on the word "heavy".


makes sense

I will say this, a few days ago I tried 3 sets 10 of moderate weight, no failure with probably 2/2 cadence and I could feel my joints actually hurting more, i.e. elbows and and left knee and it was full body and did not break a sweat or did not get winded
so, sunday I went back to my one set to failure, "heavy" training with 4/2/4 cadence, full body and felt no pain in the joints whatsoever...I do not use more weight than my joints can handle and I do not strain, grind or grip tightly...I shoot for 8 to 12 reps

But how van you train to failure without a degree of straining? Do you define failure as the point his before you need ro strain?


thats about it...right before i begin to really strain or grip tightly or twist/arc some of my body parts



Ah. I tried that a little last night, some exercises are easier than others to get the right balance with.
Interestingly, Pavel Tsatsouline recommends tightening everything, especially grip. Perhaps for pure strength that is the best way, but I feel your methods are better suited to many of us.

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hit4me

Florida, USA

StuKE wrote:
hit4me wrote:
StuKE wrote:
hit4me wrote:
sirloin wrote:
hit4me wrote:
everyone has to remember, heavy weight is relative

what i can do to ten reps, does not mean someone else can do the same weight or vice versa for ten reps

as for blood pressure..........don't do any straining of the neck, face or grip

This is why i normally use inverted comma's on the word "heavy".


makes sense

I will say this, a few days ago I tried 3 sets 10 of moderate weight, no failure with probably 2/2 cadence and I could feel my joints actually hurting more, i.e. elbows and and left knee and it was full body and did not break a sweat or did not get winded
so, sunday I went back to my one set to failure, "heavy" training with 4/2/4 cadence, full body and felt no pain in the joints whatsoever...I do not use more weight than my joints can handle and I do not strain, grind or grip tightly...I shoot for 8 to 12 reps

But how van you train to failure without a degree of straining? Do you define failure as the point his before you need ro strain?


thats about it...right before i begin to really strain or grip tightly or twist/arc some of my body parts



Ah. I tried that a little last night, some exercises are easier than others to get the right balance with.
Interestingly, Pavel Tsatsouline recommends tightening everything, especially grip. Perhaps for pure strength that is the best way, but I feel your methods are better suited to many of us.



I believe it allows adequate recovery since I am not killing the nervous system, I think its easier on the joints and allows me to be intense without my blood pressure going up...especially as we are heading into the latter part of our lives

I see older people in the gym exercising normally and never see any progress
I had a couple older guys asking me why I train like I do...I ask them if I could put them thru a workout..they said sure, they could not believe how pumped and sore they felt and now they train similar to how I showed them

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Grant D

Illinois, USA

All trainees recall.
As one makes progress in strength load and size one must reduce movement and eliminate momentum. This reduction of motion protects joints and eliminates outroading which redirects intensity. If you are not making gains you are spinning your wheels with old protocols. Please apply these fundamental state of the art principles.
FOCUSED INTENSITY to a specific muscle group
ELIMINATION of MOTION to avoid outroading
INCREASED RECOVERY TIME to grow heal build
REDUCTION of VOLUME to REDUCE SYSTEM OVERLOAD as gains begin to build.
When you next go to the gym. Turnaround go home and wait another week
Cheers in Health ... Grant
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sirloin

StuKE wrote:
hit4me wrote:
StuKE wrote:
hit4me wrote:
sirloin wrote:
hit4me wrote:
everyone has to remember, heavy weight is relative

what i can do to ten reps, does not mean someone else can do the same weight or vice versa for ten reps

as for blood pressure..........don't do any straining of the neck, face or grip

This is why i normally use inverted comma's on the word "heavy".


makes sense

I will say this, a few days ago I tried 3 sets 10 of moderate weight, no failure with probably 2/2 cadence and I could feel my joints actually hurting more, i.e. elbows and and left knee and it was full body and did not break a sweat or did not get winded
so, sunday I went back to my one set to failure, "heavy" training with 4/2/4 cadence, full body and felt no pain in the joints whatsoever...I do not use more weight than my joints can handle and I do not strain, grind or grip tightly...I shoot for 8 to 12 reps

But how van you train to failure without a degree of straining? Do you define failure as the point his before you need ro strain?


thats about it...right before i begin to really strain or grip tightly or twist/arc some of my body parts



Ah. I tried that a little last night, some exercises are easier than others to get the right balance with.
Interestingly, Pavel Tsatsouline recommends tightening everything, especially grip. Perhaps for pure strength that is the best way, but I feel your methods are better suited to many of us.



For pure strength I would agree, when you let air out you lose power, need to stay tight. Doug Hepburn said when he overhead pressed he would only let the air out once the bar or DB had come back down passed his crown.
I watched one video of Mar Rippetoe teaching the overhead press, he told the trainee to take a deep breath before each rep, when the trainee realised the air when the bar was above his head, Rippetoe said "Thats a very stupid thing to do".
I also heard many great bench pressers advice gripping the bar very tightly, almost like your trying to bend the bar, apparently it makes the load feel lighter...cant say ive tried that.

Of course, it drives the BP way up, but then so does the last "all out" rep on a set to failure, irrespective of whether its the 5th rep or 20th rep, its still an all out effort.
I know this because several years ago I did an experiment on the leg press, one week I did a 6 rep set to failure, then the following week I did a 17 rep set to failure, I had my BP checked by a staff member immediately after and low and behold my BP reading was higher after the high rep set to failure.


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sirloin

Grant D. wrote:
All trainees recall.
As one makes progress in strength load and size one must reduce movement and eliminate momentum. This reduction of motion protects joints and eliminates outroading which redirects intensity. If you are not making gains you are spinning your wheels with old protocols. Please apply these fundamental state of the art principles.
FOCUSED INTENSITY to a specific muscle group
ELIMINATION of MOTION to avoid outroading
INCREASED RECOVERY TIME to grow heal build
REDUCTION of VOLUME to REDUCE SYSTEM OVERLOAD as gains begin to build.

Old protocols? Are you aware how long isometrics have been around LOL

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hit4me

Florida, USA

sirloin wrote:
Grant D. wrote:
All trainees recall.
As one makes progress in strength load and size one must reduce movement and eliminate momentum. This reduction of motion protects joints and eliminates outroading which redirects intensity. If you are not making gains you are spinning your wheels with old protocols. Please apply these fundamental state of the art principles.
FOCUSED INTENSITY to a specific muscle group
ELIMINATION of MOTION to avoid outroading
INCREASED RECOVERY TIME to grow heal build
REDUCTION of VOLUME to REDUCE SYSTEM OVERLOAD as gains begin to build.

Old protocols? Are you aware how long isometrics have been around LOL



isometrics was a key training technique of bruce lee, so its been around at least that long, lol

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hit4me

Florida, USA

ELIMINATION of MOTION to avoid outroading



so master.....we just lay there with a dumb bell by our side and we use our minds to move the dumb bell, this will alleviate any outroading of the skeletal muscle, correct....how do we keep from overtraining our brain muscles

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Grant D

Illinois, USA

The Requirement for Loading a Muscle ...
Requires a gravity Circuit that is focused. A Gravity Circuit means WEIGHT also "stuff that will fall to the center of the planet if dropped". This directly implies that sessions like eMachines, Arcx, isometrics against imovable objects, isometrics against self resistance ... WON'T ALLOW PROGRESS.

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acas1959

Stop trolling Sesquipedalian wanna be ... show pics of your so called progress ... no pics = you full of poo ...

Cheers
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Grant D

Illinois, USA

The Stagnation of Earlier Protocols
NAUTILUS JONES 2-4
Jones and his Nautilus principles were revolutionary. If applied correctly the protocol would result in gains in strength, performance (sports), size, and
load. However, when done "correctly" (3X per week full body paced circuit) a trainee would stall and stagnate. This drove many trainees to other volume routines or they were able to cheat and develop skill. The result was "no 'mas". In my case ... I became the strongest player on my college team, the fastest, the best (arm and hitter). However, I looked athletic but had a stagnated build well below my capacity ... at 6'4" 195 pounds. I, and planet earth, was in need of further development of the science ... welcome Dr. Darden (80's) then "Professor" Ken Hutchins (SuperSlow)

Cheers

Grant
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hit4me

Florida, USA

Grant D. wrote:
The Stagnation of Earlier Protocols
NAUTILUS JONES 2-4
Jones and his Nautilus principles were revolutionary. If applied correctly the protocol would result in gains in strength, performance (spots), size, and
load. However, when done "correctly" (3X per week full body paced circuit) a trainee would stall and stagnate. This drove many trainees to other volume routines or they were able to cheat and develop skill. The result was "no 'mas". In my case ... I became the strongest player on my college team, the fastest, the best (arm and hitter). However, I looked athletic but had a stagnated build well below my capacity ... at 6'4" 195 pounds. I, and plant earth, was in need of further development of the science ... welcome Dr. Darden (80's) then "Professor" Ken Hutchins (SuperSlow)

Cheers

Grant


well, I am 7' tall 250 lbs of solid muscle using jones 3x/week for the past two years at 53 y/o...never trained before in my life
I am also extremely fast...so fast that I am faster than fast
with the strength in my right arm, I break the pins at the bowling alley
I shoot 64 everyday when I play golf because I can drive all the par 4s
and I am too good for college

and I am not going to send a pic because you just have to believe what I am typing

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Grant D

Illinois, USA

Hit 4
The above post by myself is accurate and true. It serves as a real world example of my progress and understanding of exercise science over 40 years. A great college player at 6'4" 195. Now a better athlete at 6'4" 257. I owe it to the experts and my ability to apply and discern the best practices.
Cheers in Health and progress
Grant
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Ray200

Grant D. wrote:
Hit 4
The above post by myself is accurate and true. It serves as a real world example of my progress and understanding of exercise science over 40 years. A great college player at 6'4" 195. Now a better athlete at 6'4" 257. I owe it to the experts and my ability to apply and discern the best practices.
Cheers in Health and progress
Grant


You wrote in a recent post you were 6'2". Where has the extra spurt of growth come from?

Ray
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Grant D. wrote:
All trainees recall.
As one makes progress in strength load and size one must reduce movement and eliminate momentum. This reduction of motion protects joints and eliminates outroading which redirects intensity. If you are not making gains you are spinning your wheels with old protocols. Please apply these fundamental state of the art principles.
FOCUSED INTENSITY to a specific muscle group
ELIMINATION of MOTION to avoid outroading
INCREASED RECOVERY TIME to grow heal build
REDUCTION of VOLUME to REDUCE SYSTEM OVERLOAD as gains begin to build.
When you next go to the gym. Turnaround go home and wait another week
Cheers in Health ... Grant


==Scott==
I don't know why I bother discussing this but this notion of no motion is getting a little old. Just about everything we do has some form of motion connected to it. If we bend over to pick up a shoe there is motion involved. Even if it were safer to exercise with no movement or motion involved it's very opposite to the way things work in nature.You generally don't pick up or move something with out any movement unless you are Magneto who can will a piece of metal to come to him so why train a arm or leg which is designed to move with no movement? I find the idea of pushing against an immovable object or lowering an object at a rate that it takes 30 seconds to get down a very unsatisfying way to train.We just don't do things that way naturally so why train that way.
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sirloin

Ray200 wrote:
Grant D. wrote:
Hit 4
The above post by myself is accurate and true. It serves as a real world example of my progress and understanding of exercise science over 40 years. A great college player at 6'4" 195. Now a better athlete at 6'4" 257. I owe it to the experts and my ability to apply and discern the best practices.
Cheers in Health and progress
Grant

You wrote in a recent post you were 6'2". Where has the extra spurt of growth come from?

Ray


OH OH SPAGHETTIOS

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acas1959

lmao!

Cheers
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acas1959

in 2015 posts Grant D was claiming he was 6"2' and 275 pounds with 15% body fat ... got to keep those lies straight ...

Cheers
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holliswood

Grant:

Your posts are far from insightful or original.

You are nothing but a parrot spewing out the work of better men than yourself.

Why don't you give your repetitive ignorance a break for a bit.

Hollis
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HeavyHitter32

Ray200 wrote:

You wrote in a recent post you were 6'2". Where has the extra spurt of growth come from?

Ray


The problem for liars is they cannot remember all of their lies.
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Average Al

hit4me wrote:
Grant D. wrote:
The Stagnation of Earlier Protocols
NAUTILUS JONES 2-4
Jones and his Nautilus principles were revolutionary. If applied correctly the protocol would result in gains in strength, performance (spots), size, and
load. However, when done "correctly" (3X per week full body paced circuit) a trainee would stall and stagnate. This drove many trainees to other volume routines or they were able to cheat and develop skill. The result was "no 'mas". In my case ... I became the strongest player on my college team, the fastest, the best (arm and hitter). However, I looked athletic but had a stagnated build well below my capacity ... at 6'4" 195 pounds. I, and plant earth, was in need of further development of the science ... welcome Dr. Darden (80's) then "Professor" Ken Hutchins (SuperSlow)

Cheers

Grant

well, I am 7' tall 250 lbs of solid muscle using jones 3x/week for the past two years at 53 y/o...never trained before in my life
I am also extremely fast...so fast that I am faster than fast
with the strength in my right arm, I break the pins at the bowling alley
I shoot 64 everyday when I play golf because I can drive all the par 4s
and I am too good for college

and I am not going to send a pic because you just have to believe what I am typing



Don't be modest. You look closer to 7'2" and more like 300 lbs. However, I am most impressed by your 47" vertical jump.
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

sirloin wrote:
Ray200 wrote:
Grant D. wrote:
Hit 4
The above post by myself is accurate and true. It serves as a real world example of my progress and understanding of exercise science over 40 years. A great college player at 6'4" 195. Now a better athlete at 6'4" 257. I owe it to the experts and my ability to apply and discern the best practices.
Cheers in Health and progress
Grant

You wrote in a recent post you were 6'2". Where has the extra spurt of growth come from?

Ray

OH OH SPAGHETTIOS


And right there we see the inherent problem of being a serial liar!
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hit4me

Florida, USA

Ray200 wrote:
Grant D. wrote:
Hit 4
The above post by myself is accurate and true. It serves as a real world example of my progress and understanding of exercise science over 40 years. A great college player at 6'4" 195. Now a better athlete at 6'4" 257. I owe it to the experts and my ability to apply and discern the best practices.
Cheers in Health and progress
Grant

You wrote in a recent post you were 6'2". Where has the extra spurt of growth come from?

Ray


must be the 15 minute workout twice a month with no movement, the secret of getting taller

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holliswood

Grant you offer nothing but the same tired lines you've posted for years.

Are we suppose to be impressed and appreciative as you duplicate your posts over and over again?

I can't speak for the forum but I don't need nor do I want your guidance, I've read the same books too.

You are nothing but a silly little boy pretending to be something you are not.

Hollis
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

FOCUSED INTENSITY to a specific muscle group
ELIMINATION of MOTION to avoid outroading

===Scott==
It sounds like outroading, using auxiliary muscles to perform a lift is a big no no to Mr.Grant. Even the best of Nautilus machines don't isolate a muscle to the exclusion of every other muscle. If outroading is so critical then the only way I can think of to keep outroading to a minimum would be the use of a electrical muscle stimulation where you attach a pad to a specific muscle and only that muscle contracts. Frankly I don't see outroading to be a problem in any way. In real life practices your muscles work in conjunction with each other, they hardly ever work completely independent so why try to train them that way?
The pullover, the best machine Jones ever made does not just isolate the lats or back, many other muscles also come into play.Imagine how many different exercises one would have to do in a workout if the goal was to develop an all around good build if each muscle could be completely isolated?
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