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sirloin wrote:
Think your missing the point. The point is hes implying using advanced techniques beyond a certain point wont produce anything. Yet, he himself claimed to have made great gains using advanced techniques...even after he'd been training for decades. Its a contradiction.


I agree....he simply has nothing to sell now.... a more reasonable viewpoint emerges.
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sirloin

A recent enough article (muscleprodigy) states he trained to failure, with weight sessions lasting 90 minutes, followed up with swimming. It also states he was the first person to advocate changing your routine up which I thought was interesting.
Whether or not he trained to failure, he train hard daily for almost his entire life. One of my favourite quotes from him "I dont care how long I live, I just want to live while am alive". Brilliant.






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sirloin

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
sirloin wrote:
Think your missing the point. The point is hes implying using advanced techniques beyond a certain point wont produce anything. Yet, he himself claimed to have made great gains using advanced techniques...even after he'd been training for decades. Its a contradiction.

I agree....he simply has nothing to sell now.... a more reasonable viewpoint emerges.


Btw, I also agree with the points you made.
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ATP 4 Vitality

I would like to state on the record that many of John Little's ideas resonate with me. A few of his ideas do not, in particular his discussions involving evolution, which as with everyone's suppositions on this subject, are based on pure speculation. Ditto Dr. Doug McGuff. These speculations are very divisive among the general public, and should be excluded from any meaningful discussions of exercise. Furthermore, I could care less what ideas some philosopher promotes as truths, such as Ayn Rand. Any such words of wisdom did Mike Mentzer little good in his untimely death. But these shortcomings do not take from his writings on exercise. He does write well.

Furthermore, one of the things that has bothered me about his writings on isometrics is this. I have experimented with isometrics extensively along with many other techniques I might add. Little (pun intended) experimentation is necessary to observe that longer isometric hold times fully fatigue muscle fibers. After muscle failure with an isometric hold, I can't move the rep at ALL in ANY other zone. I can ONLY lower the weight. Then that muscle group is done. John little states his viewpoint this way in a 15 minute Corporate Warrior interview recently:

"I addressed this misconception along with Dr. Doug McGuff in our book Body by Science. In short, it has to do with the way muscles are innervated. You don't have fast twitch fibres in the lower third of the biceps, intermediate twitch fibres at the origin of the biceps, and slow twitch fibres in the middle of the biceps - motor units comprised of slow, intermediate and fast twitch fibres are interspersed randomly throughout the length and breadth of the biceps muscle (and all skeletal muscle for that matter). Consequently, if you fatigue all of the motor units in that muscle then it will be stronger over all - not only in one region of its range of motion."

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Simple experimentation as mentioned above would show everyone the same thing. I believe isometrics work the whole muscle. I simply don't think we have enough information YET to come to any other conclusion. An isometric hold to failure using asynchronous recruitment ensures using as many fibers as possible. There are other factors as well. Maybe I should write a isometric book!
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sirloin

In the video of Jeff Cavaliere i put up he makes the same points, i.e., fibers rotating throughout the hold, hes also for longer holds. I used static holds almost exclusively over 4 year period, best results came from several rest pause statics (10 second holds with 10-15 second rest pauses).
Id be all for a good book on isometrics.

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ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
I would like to state on the record that many of John Little's ideas resonate with me. A few of his ideas do not, in particular his discussions involving evolution, which as with everyone's suppositions on this subject, are based on pure speculation. Ditto Dr. Doug McGuff. These speculations are very divisive among the general public, and should be excluded from any meaningful discussions of exercise. Furthermore, I could care less what ideas some philosopher promotes as truths, such as Ayn Rand. Any such words of wisdom did Mike Mentzer little good in his untimely death. But these shortcomings do not take from his writings on exercise. He does write well.

Furthermore, one of the things that has bothered me about his writings on isometrics is this. I have experimented with isometrics extensively along with many other techniques I might add. Little (pun intended) experimentation is necessary to observe that longer isometric hold times fully fatigue muscle fibers. After muscle failure with an isometric hold, I can't move the rep at ALL in ANY other zone. I can ONLY lower the weight. Then that muscle group is done. John little states his viewpoint this way in a 15 minute Corporate Warrior interview recently:

"I addressed this misconception along with Dr. Doug McGuff in our book Body by Science. In short, it has to do with the way muscles are innervated. You don't have fast twitch fibres in the lower third of the biceps, intermediate twitch fibres at the origin of the biceps, and slow twitch fibres in the middle of the biceps - motor units comprised of slow, intermediate and fast twitch fibres are interspersed randomly throughout the length and breadth of the biceps muscle (and all skeletal muscle for that matter). Consequently, if you fatigue all of the motor units in that muscle then it will be stronger over all - not only in one region of its range of motion."

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Simple experimentation as mentioned above would show everyone the same thing. I believe isometrics work the whole muscle. I simply don't think we have enough information YET to come to any other conclusion. An isometric hold to failure using asynchronous recruitment ensures using as many fibers as possible. There are other factors as well. Maybe I should write a isometric book!


I enjoyed your post here. How long of TUL's with isometrics do you typically do?
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ATP 4 Vitality

Donnie Hunt wrote:
I enjoyed your post here. How long of TUL's with isometrics do you typically do?


That is is very good question. Also, this will require a very long detailed explanation. Later I will collect my thoughts and post such an appropriate reply. There are lots of issues at play here as you might be aware of.

None of the "elite" HIT people are posting anything new on this subject of isometrics. There seems to be lots of "talking parrots" repeating isometric information. If you want your ears tickled by mainstream HIT information on isometrics that you have heard for 40-50 years, head on over to baye.com ..... chief parrot at work. Fortunately, Josh Trentine and Ken Hutchins had some interesting things to say on isometrics..... but both have disappeared. Ken Hutchins himself said this about isometric machines in the included graphic:

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ATP 4 Vitality

sirloin wrote:
In the video of Jeff Cavaliere i put up he makes the same points, i.e., fibers rotating throughout the hold, hes also for longer holds. I used static holds almost exclusively over 4 year period, best results came from several rest pause statics (10 second holds with 10-15 second rest pauses).
Id be all for a good book on isometrics.



Thanks for the video link.
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Grant D

Illinois, USA

All trainees should be sure that isometrics is done with a gravity circuit. In my successes and opinion one needs the "dampening" effect to assure constant direct focused loading into the muscle (muscle group). It is too easy to cheat an iso hold with squiggling, ratcheting, micro temporal unloading.

Recall that when one progresses in strength (through direct intensity, extended recovery and reduced volume, gravity loading MUST occur to eliminate momentum, eliminate outroading, eliminate system overload (aka damage to body circuits i.e. joints, nerves).

Cheers. So far no one else but two folks have claimed that they are still making progress. Has everyone given up? Even the Great Delaney looks weak and emaciated? As Tim Ryan said about 15 years ago ... somethings wrong .. as most (or all) of his clients stopped making any progress with his then SOA SS (SB) techniques.

Lets now recall how Fred Hahn attempted to breakthrough stagnation with Slo-Burn ... in which he reduced volume and added load. We thank John Little for his works to get us to 2017 with is current ADVANCED TECHNIQUES of PROGRESS.
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ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Donnie Hunt wrote:
I enjoyed your post here. How long of TUL's with isometrics do you typically do?

That is is very good question. Also, this will require a very long detailed explanation. Later I will collect my thoughts and post such an appropriate reply. There are lots of issues at play here as you might be aware of.

None of the "elite" HIT people are posting anything new on this subject of isometrics. There seems to be lots of "talking parrots" repeating isometric information. If you want your ears tickled by mainstream HIT information on isometrics that you have heard for 40-50 years, head on over to baye.com ..... chief parrot at work. Fortunately, Josh Trentine and Ken Hutchins had some interesting things to say on isometrics..... but both have disappeared. Ken Hutchins himself said this about isometric machines in the included graphic:



Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to your response.

Regarding the Ken Hutchins comments with the iMachines: I've read the articles regarding and the dumpers articles. It has been awhile though. Those writings along with many others have made me think and apply some ideas to my own training.

edited 7-27-17

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sirloin

Grant D. wrote:
All trainees should be sure that isometrics is done with a gravity circuit. In my successes and opinion one needs the "dampening" effect to assure constant direct focused loading into the muscle (muscle group). It is too easy to cheat an iso hold with squiggling, ratcheting, micro temporal unloading.

Recall that when one progresses in strength (through direct intensity, extended recovery and reduced volume, gravity loading MUST occur to eliminate momentum, eliminate outroading, eliminate system overload (aka damage to body circuits i.e. joints, nerves).

Cheers. So far no one else but two folks have claimed that they are still making progress. Has everyone given up? Even the Great Delaney looks weak and emaciated? As Tim Ryan said about 15 years ago ... somethings wrong .. as most (or all) of his clients stopped making any progress with his then SOA SS (SB) techniques.

Lets now recall how Fred Hahn attempted to breakthrough stagnation with Slo-Burn ... in which he reduced volume and added load. We thank John Little for his works to get us to 2017 with is current ADVANCED TECHNIQUES of PROGRESS.


Same shit, different day from the faceless troll.
For a man in his 80s DeVany looks great, but then he works out most days, doesnt binge drink and doesnt eat (or advocate eating) processed crap. Good luck looking like him if your lucky enough to even reach his age.

Am making great progress thanks, 20lbs of fat off, maintained all muscle and health wise doing real good lol.

Yes, lets all rise a glass (or 6 glasses) to Little, for misleading and confusing people.

In Advanced MCT he says "as long as your set completes itself at sixty seconds or less, you are training within the anaerobic, or building pathways". He then not long after comes up with Max Pyramid, were trainees hold the same poistion for up to several minutes of time under load lol.

Then after all the bumming and blowing about how full range exercise being bad for joints and connective tissues and superlow being "synthetic resistance" he then comes up with done in one, whereby the trainee takes 4 minutes to complete a full range rep.

What a joke.





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sirloin

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Donnie Hunt wrote:
I enjoyed your post here. How long of TUL's with isometrics do you typically do?

That is is very good question. Also, this will require a very long detailed explanation. Later I will collect my thoughts and post such an appropriate reply. There are lots of issues at play here as you might be aware of.

None of the "elite" HIT people are posting anything new on this subject of isometrics. There seems to be lots of "talking parrots" repeating isometric information. If you want your ears tickled by mainstream HIT information on isometrics that you have heard for 40-50 years, head on over to baye.com ..... chief parrot at work. Fortunately, Josh Trentine and Ken Hutchins had some interesting things to say on isometrics..... but both have disappeared. Ken Hutchins himself said this about isometric machines in the included graphic:



Trentine hasnt disappeared per se, he seems happy to post pics of his new drug look on social media. Probably having a mid life crises.
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Grant D

Illinois, USA

Recall that Max Contraction and Advanced Max Contraction was so effective that proper practitioners experienced such good results that we needed the science to advance ... as it did into Max Pyramid , Doneinone aka 6060 9090 120120, and Dr. Dardens 303030. BUT for these to work one MUST reduce session volume, increase recovery time, and assure intense increased muscle loads.
BTW ... by progress I refer to size, strength, load. The elements of weight loss (fat loss) are a parallel path that is best achieved by diet with a Hi Fat , Moderate Protein, Near Zero Carb (aka sugar & starch) daily feed.

Of course this assures zero grains and carbs are near zero. Recall one must assure resistance exercise progress by directing recovery and body resources into muscle building targets rather than an addictive carb battle against these poisons. Also recall ... carbs and grains will eventually harm all Humans ... some earlier than later.

Good Sunday Morning. Today will only be one week since my last session ... so no session til next week ... planning on a prescribed increase of 5 pounds on two exercises and perhaps three seconds added to my triceps pullback test. We shall see as every session hits new gains since I am sure to regulate session volume and assure recovery ... all with zero outroad. It really is that easy ... even a caveman could due (sic) it.
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eintology

California, USA

Grant D. wrote:

Also recall ... carbs and grains will eventually harm all Humans ... some earlier than later.


... the devastation, the carnage. Of all our societal fears and concerns -- carbs could be placed right alongside Pakistan having automobiles weaving around nuclear capabilities, and Starbuck's allegedly opening up another kiosk in Santa Monica! It could very well lead to the end of human civilization as we know it.
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Grant D. wrote:
Recall that Max Contraction and Advanced Max Contraction was so effective that proper practitioners experienced such good results that we needed the science to advance ... as it did into Max Pyramid , Doneinone aka 6060 9090 120120, and Dr. Dardens 303030. BUT for these to work one MUST reduce session volume, increase recovery time, and assure intense increased muscle loads.
BTW ... by progress I refer to size, strength, load. The elements of weight loss (fat loss) are a parallel path that is best achieved by diet with a Hi Fat , Moderate Protein, Near Zero Carb (aka sugar & starch) daily feed.

Of course this assures zero grains and carbs are near zero. Recall one must assure resistance exercise progress by directing recovery and body resources into muscle building targets rather than an addictive carb battle against these poisons. Also recall ... carbs and grains will eventually harm all Humans ... some earlier than later.

Good Sunday Morning. Today will only be one week since my last session ... so no session til next week ... planning on a prescribed increase of 5 pounds on two exercises and perhaps three seconds added to my triceps pullback test. We shall see as every session hits new gains since I am sure to regulate session volume and assure recovery ... all with zero outroad. It really is that easy ... even a caveman could due (sic) it.


Where is the evidence that MCT and omega set worked "so well" for "proper practitioners"? Where is the evidence that MPP is so effective? Guess we'll just take it on faith eh? Testimonials from his freinds and expectional claims dont cut the mustard. Recall, expectional claims require exceptional evidence.

"We needed to advance the science"
Whos we? Theres advancement and then theres going the whole polar opposite direction from what you've been advocating / preaching.

30/30/30 was created to try and mimic the effects of the XForce machines. And AGAIN, for variation Dr D then came up with 15/15/15 plus 8-12 normal speed reps.

Btw, my strength ratio has increased while dropping fat, all muscle maintained.

Any pics of your fantastic never ended progress? The fruits of your labour from ultra breif workouts every 3 weeks? Or is it going to be more smoke and mirriors, gravity circuts, sqiggling and data?




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Grant D

Illinois, USA

I recall Trentine stating he was a nd is drug free .... and he looks as such. The last comment I saw from Josh was that one must be cateful not to outroad and be aware of systemic overload.
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sirloin

Grant D. wrote:
I recall Trentine stating he was a nd is drug free .... and he looks as such. The last comment I saw from Josh was that one must be cateful not to outroad and be aware of systemic overload.


His new photos suggest different Grant. Theres blatantly obvious tell tail signs of useage.

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Donnie Hunt

Donnie Hunt wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Donnie Hunt wrote:
I enjoyed your post here. How long of TUL's with isometrics do you typically do?

That is is very good question. Also, this will require a very long detailed explanation. Later I will collect my thoughts and post such an appropriate reply. There are lots of issues at play here as you might be aware of.

None of the "elite" HIT people are posting anything new on this subject of isometrics. There seems to be lots of "talking parrots" repeating isometric information. If you want your ears tickled by mainstream HIT information on isometrics that you have heard for 40-50 years, head on over to baye.com ..... chief parrot at work. Fortunately, Josh Trentine and Ken Hutchins had some interesting things to say on isometrics..... but both have disappeared. Ken Hutchins himself said this about isometric machines in the included graphic:



Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to your response.

Regarding the Ken Hutchins comments with the iMachines: I've read the articles regarding and the dumpers articles. It has been awhile though. Those writings along with many others have made me think and apply some ideas to my own training.

edited 7-27-17



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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

Grant D. wrote:
Recall that Max Contraction and Advanced Max Contraction was so effective that proper practitioners experienced such good results that we needed the science to advance ... as it did into Max Pyramid , Doneinone aka 6060 9090 120120, and Dr. Dardens 303030. BUT for these to work one MUST reduce session volume, increase recovery time, and assure intense increased muscle loads...


The 'Science'?! Where's the science of arbitrary 'round' number solutions like 6060, 9090, 30/30/30, etc.?

Done-In-One? How about WellDone-In-Two?

Time to freshen-up up the ol' tinfoil dome protector, buddy!!
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hit4me

Florida, USA

I recall the movie "Total Recall" and I recall the remake of "Total Recall"

enough of this recall crap and put your money where your mouth is

I can can post on here about all the progress I am making

I train twice a week full body and am squatting 600 lbs for 25 reps, an increase of 100 lbs since May of 2017, and my incline press went from 250 lbs to 325 lbs in three weeks

or am I just making this up like Grant is making all his stuff up

as I recall


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sirloin

https://m.youtube.com/...h?v=fnhs_VIm0c8

Interesting video, how likely is it the top 6 were drug free?

Without drugs, there is no bodybuilding and fitness industry...period.
Even the world "natural" bodybuilding federation has a full list of names in their "hall of shame".

Recall pro bodybuilder Ray McNeil? He claimed to be a life long natural, but when his wife Sally shot him dead in the mid 95s for abusing her, the autopsy showed he'd 5 different anabolics in his system.
The best one was a Ronnie Coleman video I watched, at the time of filming he was the 2x Mr O, it said on the side of MetroFlex gym "home of life long drug free bodybuilder Ronnie Coleman".

There again, when I attended a Dorian Yates seminar in May of 98, I was one month away from turning 20, I naively asked "Dorian, is it true that some pro bodybuilders takes drugs"He and everyone in the room laughed, he responded "what some of them or all of them" which got another laugh from the audience. He then said "yes, all pro bodybuilders use drugs, even many of the so-called naturals".

When someones shoulders and traps all of a sudden become full blown 3D and / or theyve big pimples on their shoulders, back, chest etc (Trentine has them on his back) its pretty clear their a using something.





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Donnie Hunt wrote:

How long of TUL's with isometrics do you typically do?


Donnie,

I hesitate to give definitive answers that somehow get misinterpreted or worse misapplied. You seem like a nice guy so I will give you my thoughts.

The term anaerobic means without oxygen. Aerobic involves oxygen. How do we get oxygen???? breathing. Weightlifting should be an anaerobic process. However, breathing is necessary for life, along with the aerobic (with oxygen) citric acid cycle which produces ATP efficiently only with oxygen. No one questions this.

Secondly, if you watch a 400 meter race....the runners sprint the entire distance. The world record for 400 meters is less than 1 minute. 800 meter sprints involve slight amounts of pacing. The 400 meters is definitely an anaerobic process. Basically they could run the whole race without breathing(oxygen.) Heavy breathing occurs during the 800 meter sprints. We all can see this quite readily. No one questions this either. It is important to realize that sprinting involves the whole body. The training guidelines of anaerobic, glycolytic, and aerobic are based on whole body activities and not weightlifting or partial body activities such as a set of curls involving only the arms. Involving only the biceps may have a different effect on the anaerobic pathway. ATP energy may not be used up as fast as in partial bodybuilding exercises. This could cause a longer time period to work the involved muscles in an anaerobic environment. We cannot measure ATP during anaerobic muscular contractions.
Years ago, a scientist found out that during sprinting there was still plenty of energy in the muscle after sprinting fatigue. Maybe the ATP was not in the correct position on the muscle fiber to be used properly.... or other elements were not in place such as calcium. No one knows if the anaerobic training guidelines apply to body part training.
If you do an extended duration isometric leg press, say 2 minutes, after you finish, go sit down, and after a minute or so your breathing rate will pick up. The citric acid cycle is working (needs oxygen/breathing) and you need to breathe to blow off CO2 from the lactate used in glycolysis. The citric acid cycle is always working and continually makes ATP utilizing oxygen. A properly trained aerobic citric acid cycle bolsters the anaerobic processes considerably. After a long duration isometric set, one can see that these are still heavily engaging the anaerobic process.
The only safe way for non-athletes to train is asynchronous muscle recruitment. Lighter resistance and long durations sets can be used for asynchronous muscle recruitment. Perhaps experimenting with upwards of 5 minutes might prove educational. Muscular endurance is far more important for non-athletes anyway.

Hope this helps Donnie....as I'm tired of writing and thinking....which is hard work.


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HeavyHitter32

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Muscular endurance is far more important for non-athletes anyway.


Yep, something to be said about this.
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hit4me

Florida, USA

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Muscular endurance is far more important for non-athletes anyway.


Yep, something to be said about this.


that's what pro bodybuilder Roger Callard always said, which is why he performs reps of 15-25....according to his workout routine
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Donnie Hunt

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Donnie Hunt wrote:

How long of TUL's with isometrics do you typically do?

Donnie,

I hesitate to give definitive answers that somehow get misinterpreted or worse misapplied. You seem like a nice guy so I will give you my thoughts.

The term anaerobic means without oxygen. Aerobic involves oxygen. How do we get oxygen???? breathing. Weightlifting should be an anaerobic process. However, breathing is necessary for life, along with the aerobic (with oxygen) citric acid cycle which produces ATP efficiently only with oxygen. No one questions this.

Secondly, if you watch a 400 meter race....the runners sprint the entire distance. The world record for 400 meters is less than 1 minute. 800 meter sprints involve slight amounts of pacing. The 400 meters is definitely an anaerobic process. Basically they could run the whole race without breathing(oxygen.) Heavy breathing occurs during the 800 meter sprints. We all can see this quite readily. No one questions this either. It is important to realize that sprinting involves the whole body. The training guidelines of anaerobic, glycolytic, and aerobic are based on whole body activities and not weightlifting or partial body activities such as a set of curls involving only the arms. Involving only the biceps may have a different effect on the anaerobic pathway. ATP energy may not be used up as fast as in partial bodybuilding exercises. This could cause a longer time period to work the involved muscles in an anaerobic environment. We cannot measure ATP during anaerobic muscular contractions.
Years ago, a scientist found out that during sprinting there was still plenty of energy in the muscle after sprinting fatigue. Maybe the ATP was not in the correct position on the muscle fiber to be used properly.... or other elements were not in place such as calcium. No one knows if the anaerobic training guidelines apply to body part training.
If you do an extended duration isometric leg press, say 2 minutes, after you finish, go sit down, and after a minute or so your breathing rate will pick up. The citric acid cycle is working (needs oxygen/breathing) and you need to breathe to blow off CO2 from the lactate used in glycolysis. The citric acid cycle is always working and continually makes ATP utilizing oxygen. A properly trained aerobic citric acid cycle bolsters the anaerobic processes considerably. After a long duration isometric set, one can see that these are still heavily engaging the anaerobic process.
The only safe way for non-athletes to train is asynchronous muscle recruitment. Lighter resistance and long durations sets can be used for asynchronous muscle recruitment. Perhaps experimenting with upwards of 5 minutes might prove educational. Muscular endurance is far more important for non-athletes anyway.

Hope this helps Donnie....as I'm tired of writing and thinking....which is hard work.




Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed repsonse. I've had an interest in all this stuff for a long time. I may very well do some long TUL in the vein of what you write about here and see how I do.

I can say for myself that strength tra ning has such a huge impact on enhancing my feeling of well being. I get to where I crave a workout. Getting into that zone or what have you.
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