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sirloin

hit4me wrote:
I have two recipes to help lower blood pressure:
1. organic beet juice, no sugar added and hardpressed, 4oz in morning and 4oz in the evening. Tastes very earthy but its worth it. Brought my blood pressure down 10 points after 5 days.

2. Cup of hot water, 1/2 lemon juiced, crushed garlic, tablespoon apple cider vinegar, honey and a dash of cayenne pepper. drink once or twice a day.

be careful if you are on blood pressure meds as it could lower more than you want. I am on meds and my blood pressure would vary from good to pre-hypertension, after drinking these recipes consistently for a couple of weeks, my blood pressure has always been good. resting blood pressure that is.


Interesting, my geneticist mate noted that my blood was a little thick (in spite of taking 75mg of Asprin daily). He told me to start having one or two juiced lemons in warm water daily, low and behold after a few weeks my blood was of a normal consistancy. Now experimenting with no Asprin, so far so good. Also noted a slight reduction in BP from taking the beet juice. Hat tip for that one:)
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hit4me

Florida, USA

with all this talk about going to failure, the body straining using slow reps and heavy weights spiking the blood pressure and maybe causing more damage to the heart
I am gonna try resorting to a 3x/week full body workouts with lighter weight and achieving the pump by using 3 sets of 8-12 like they did in the 40's and 50's...no failure and the reps will be performed in strict form with a normal rep speed
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Frank Scott

hit4me.

A classic protocol and one which I have been using and enjoying for some time now. No strain and no psychological stress either. I am sure you will like it and so will your blood pressure and joints - more important than biceps
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NewYorker

New York, USA

Adding to those expressing support.

Last couple of years, I have been easing up on the intensity, with no loss of strength or size. Not that I was ever a great athlete. I am 55

So maybe it is all for the best

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coomo

Well its been 3 weeks since my original diagnosis.
My Cardiologist,wanted a CT scan done.Echos are fine ,but are notoriously
inacurate,and open to a myriad of intepretations, especially if the operator is not highly experienced.
For three weeks ive been in a bit of mess to be honest,worrying about what else the CT will flag up.
Apart from my age,Ive had a love hate relationship with roll up smokes, for 40 years, plus ive drank a few pints too.
Anyway today had the scan.Very easy, and didnt even feel the liquid they pump in>
Then a 2 hour wait, for appointment with the cardiologist.
He opened the door, and beckoned me to sit whilst saying,"come and hear the good news!"
The original aortic route measurement was a tad off.Mine is dilated at 40mm.Average is 30mm.They dont even worry till it gets to 60mm plus.
He then walked me through the scan.As he scrolled down and around my arteries, he kept saying "clear" one tiny spot of calicification,which was tiny and of no concern,all the way from my neck to lower legs, clear clear, clear.
No schelerosis anywhere.
the aortic dilation was "wear and tear" perhaps a tiny bit of disease.
However, my logic suggests that this is one area of the aorta where even young guys have dilation.Considering, that no other areas were affected.Im of the opinion, that BP spikes were likely most significant.
Also ,when you mention lifting to most people, they dont actually know how hard HIT is.Its hard as we all know to
explain to laymen.
I was offered beat blockers. but i refused.He was ok with that.
I want to lower my BP so im gonna go with meditation.
That plus some boxing work, HFLC diet ,and fasting, as usual.
Back in a year for follow up.
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hit4me

Florida, USA

coomo wrote:
Well its been 3 weeks since my original diagnosis.
My Cardiologist,wanted a CT scan done.Echos are fine ,but are notoriously
inacurate,and open to a myriad of intepretations, especially if the operator is not highly experienced.
For three weeks ive been in a bit of mess to be honest,worrying about what else the CT will flag up.
Apart from my age,Ive had a love hate relationship with roll up smokes, for 40 years, plus ive drank a few pints too.
Anyway today had the scan.Very easy, and didnt even feel the liquid they pump in>
Then a 2 hour wait, for appointment with the cardiologist.
He opened the door, and beckoned me to sit whilst saying,"come and hear the good news!"
The original aortic route measurement was a tad off.Mine is dilated at 40mm.Average is 30mm.They dont even worry till it gets to 60mm plus.
He then walked me through the scan.As he scrolled down and around my arteries, he kept saying "clear" one tiny spot of calicification,which was tiny and of no concern,all the way from my neck to lower legs, clear clear, clear.
No schelerosis anywhere.
the aortic dilation was "wear and tear" perhaps a tiny bit of disease.
However, my logic suggests that this is one area of the aorta where even young guys have dilation.Considering, that no other areas were affected.Im of the opinion, that BP spikes were likely most significant.
Also ,when you mention lifting to most people, they dont actually know how hard HIT is.Its hard as we all know to
explain to laymen.
I was offered beat blockers. but i refused.He was ok with that.
I want to lower my BP so im gonna go with meditation.
That plus some boxing work, HFLC diet ,and fasting, as usual.
Back in a year for follow up.


glad to hear the good news

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HeavyHitter32

Good news coomo. Always nice knowing your arteries are clean too. So are you going to resume any sort of lighter or less intense resistance training in addition to the boxing, etc. and if so, what were the Dr's thoughts about it?
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Greg Roseman

Virginia, USA

Great news.
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Frank Scott

A couple of cooking beers won't hurt but the fags will. Good luck with meditation which gave me more stress than less as my brain jumped all over the place.You may be more controlled than I am .
How is your weight, waist,BMI?
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coomo

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
Good news coomo. Always nice knowing your arteries are clean too. So are you going to resume any sort of lighter or less intense resistance training in addition to the boxing, etc. and if so, what were the Dr's thoughts about it?

Trained this morning.Im now one of those pussies who use light pumping reps, and stop about 10 reps from failure!
Doctor said that I can do as much cardio as i want.So few light sets of leg extension,s presses, etc, then 20 minutes at max HR on bike.Boring as hell, but walked out fully pumped,so not all bad.

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coomo

Im 5ft 10.Waist is 29inches.
Have shifted some fat in last few months.Just a side effect of HFLC,plus eating once a day and fasting i guess.
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coomo

Sorry Frank missed out weight.Im about 168lbs.
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Frank Scott

You are in good nick! 29 inch waist!
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hit4me

Florida, USA

did the cardiologist specifically instruct you to change your weightlifting style or is that just you changing it on your own?

just curious to what the heart dr said about lifting as he was ok with doing as much cardio as you would like
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coomo

I was blessed with womens hips! No matter how lean i get elsewhere,i still
have a small pouch of fat that wont shift!
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spud

Frank Scott wrote:
A couple of cooking beers won't hurt but the fags will. Good luck with meditation which gave me more stress than less as my brain jumped all over the place.You may be more controlled than I am .


That's like saying that you had no luck with deadlifting. First time you tried it you couldn't lift 1,000 lb so you gave up.

Patience and persistence will yield incremental gains.

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entsminger

Virginia, USA

---Scott ---
So Coomo, did you have your blood pressure checked prior to doing a heavy set and then right after you had done one? I'd be curious what the difference is.
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coomo

entsminger wrote:
---Scott ---
So Coomo, did you have your blood pressure checked prior to doing a heavy set and then right after you had done one? I'd be curious what the difference is.

No Scott.I didnt.However,its well documented that heavy sets, spike blood pressure enormously.
Anything that causes you to strain against "immovable objects" or such like has the same effect.
About 20 years ago a young guy (Greg,34)was performing OHP in the gym.
Someone called his name, and he turned his head as he was pressing.
He dropped the bar and staggered to the reception.His Cartoid artery had ruptured, and he was dead before the ambulance arrived.

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coomo

hit4me wrote:
did the cardiologist specifically instruct you to change your weightlifting style or is that just you changing it on your own?

just curious to what the heart dr said about lifting as he was ok with doing as much cardio as you would like

Yes he did.Stop all heavy lifting.Ok to do pump style workouts, plus as much aerobic as I want.No restrictions on heart rate either.

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hit4me

Florida, USA

coomo wrote:
hit4me wrote:
did the cardiologist specifically instruct you to change your weightlifting style or is that just you changing it on your own?

just curious to what the heart dr said about lifting as he was ok with doing as much cardio as you would like
Yes he did.Stop all heavy lifting.Ok to do pump style workouts, plus as much aerobic as I want.No restrictions on heart rate either.



as we all know, heavy lifting is relative
therefore, performing a lighter weight for higher reps to MMF (15 to 25 reps)should be ok or performing a lighter weight using more time under tension and going to MMF should be fine (5-7 reps using a 4/4/4 tul), or instead of MMF, just stop short by one rep...am I correct in that assumption
no rest pauses or using a weight that will blow a gasket, or cause your neck and facial expressions to look like the incredible hulk or cause your body to be shaking as you are performing that rep.

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hit4me

Florida, USA

coomo wrote:
entsminger wrote:
---Scott ---
So Coomo, did you have your blood pressure checked prior to doing a heavy set and then right after you had done one? I'd be curious what the difference is.
No Scott.I didnt.However,its well documented that heavy sets, spike blood pressure enormously.
Anything that causes you to strain against "immovable objects" or such like has the same effect.
About 20 years ago a young guy (Greg,34)was performing OHP in the gym.
Someone called his name, and he turned his head as he was pressing.
He dropped the bar and staggered to the reception.His Cartoid artery had ruptured, and he was dead before the ambulance arrived.



sad to hear of a life shortened, my question is this (if you know the answer) was he performing HIT, Rest pause, or was he just repping to get a pump?

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Gunslingerheel

My wife's (who happens to be an cardiac echo tech (does heart echos) orthopedic surgeon who is about 40 had the same thing but his dissected. He was doing a 5k with a cardiologist friend. Immediate surgery and he is fine. Sucks to deal with but I'm glad your doctor was sharp enough to catch it.
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HeavyHitter32

hit4me wrote:
coomo wrote:
hit4me wrote:
did the cardiologist specifically instruct you to change your weightlifting style or is that just you changing it on your own?

just curious to what the heart dr said about lifting as he was ok with doing as much cardio as you would like
Yes he did.Stop all heavy lifting.Ok to do pump style workouts, plus as much aerobic as I want.No restrictions on heart rate either.



as we all know, heavy lifting is relative
therefore, performing a lighter weight for higher reps to MMF (15 to 25 reps)should be ok or performing a lighter weight using more time under tension and going to MMF should be fine (5-7 reps using a 4/4/4 tul), or instead of MMF, just stop short by one rep...am I correct in that assumption
no rest pauses or using a weight that will blow a gasket, or cause your neck and facial expressions to look like the incredible hulk or cause your body to be shaking as you are performing that rep.



I still wouldn't go to true failure or even one rep shy with 15-25 reps. As coomo correctly pointed out, straining is bad...even if a lighter weight is safer than a heavier. Straining is not even recommended at the toilet when constipated.

A better approach to this matter would be a cumulative fatigue effect in the muscles with multiple sets, reps, etc. Muscle fatigue is an element to hypertrophy and can be done without excessive straining or very high blood pressure spikes.
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coomo

hit4me wrote:
coomo wrote:
entsminger wrote:
---Scott ---
So Coomo, did you have your blood pressure checked prior to doing a heavy set and then right after you had done one? I'd be curious what the difference is.
No Scott.I didnt.However,its well documented that heavy sets, spike blood pressure enormously.
Anything that causes you to strain against "immovable objects" or such like has the same effect.
About 20 years ago a young guy (Greg,34)was performing OHP in the gym.
Someone called his name, and he turned his head as he was pressing.
He dropped the bar and staggered to the reception.His Cartoid artery had ruptured, and he was dead before the ambulance arrived.



sad to hear of a life shortened, my question is this (if you know the answer) was he performing HIT, Rest pause, or was he just repping to get a pump?


No idea,sorry.

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hit4me

Florida, USA

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
hit4me wrote:
coomo wrote:
hit4me wrote:
did the cardiologist specifically instruct you to change your weightlifting style or is that just you changing it on your own?

just curious to what the heart dr said about lifting as he was ok with doing as much cardio as you would like
Yes he did.Stop all heavy lifting.Ok to do pump style workouts, plus as much aerobic as I want.No restrictions on heart rate either.



as we all know, heavy lifting is relative
therefore, performing a lighter weight for higher reps to MMF (15 to 25 reps)should be ok or performing a lighter weight using more time under tension and going to MMF should be fine (5-7 reps using a 4/4/4 tul), or instead of MMF, just stop short by one rep...am I correct in that assumption
no rest pauses or using a weight that will blow a gasket, or cause your neck and facial expressions to look like the incredible hulk or cause your body to be shaking as you are performing that rep.



I still wouldn't go to true failure or even one rep shy with 15-25 reps. As coomo correctly pointed out, straining is bad...even if a lighter weight is safer than a heavier. Straining is not even recommended at the toilet when constipated.

A better approach to this matter would be a cumulative fatigue effect in the muscles with multiple sets, reps, etc. Muscle fatigue is an element to hypertrophy and can be done without excessive straining or very high blood pressure spikes.


I get that....I guess I am having a hard time understanding what is meant by straining, because even when I did Arnold style training years ago..there was still straining going on
I see individuals straining when they are doing multiple sets

my assumption to what you mean is to use a weight heavy enough to stop at about 4 reps short of failure and use a normal controlled rep cadense and perform about 3 to 5 sets to get a pump and do not worry about increasing the weight or reps each time you workout

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