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hit4me

Florida, USA

saw a topic of discussion on the arc machines and did not want to contaminate his thread with my curiosity

what are everyone's favorite machines to use during their workout
mine are

nautilus
matrix
hammer strength
star trac
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sirloin

Diffo Matrix and Technogym. Never had a chance to use Nautilus, would love to have a rip on them.
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backtrack

Matrix and technogym are now the order of the day in the UK, both are average. It's been a while since I've used the technogym equipment but the Matrix equipment I use every week. There's not much in it between the two.

On many of their machines the range of motion lacks smoothness. It often feels bumpy, particularly on the chest press, overhead press, curl, triceps extension...oh wait...

I've only ever used a limited range of Nautilus nitro equipment all smooth machinery, even if old, but I soon maxed out the chest press. Probably wouldn't be able to now though.

I've used some equipment by a company called Zest feels all very smooth and looks high quality. I did like their pullover machine.

When I was in college, as I said in a previous post, I used the Universal multi-gym. What I liked about it was how simple it was to work around the whole machine and get a good workout. And I liked the standing press you don't see that anymore it's always seated.

Life fitness equipment was way ahead of its time, but the negative could sometimes shock you or make it too easy to cheat. Great machines though pity they've all but been phased out. Because of these machines I learned about negative accentuated exercise before I came across hit.

Free weights are now the order of the day but back in the early naughty's at least where I worked out people largely trained on machines, cables and chin/dip stations.
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sirloin

Dan_The_man wrote:
Matrix and technogym are now the order of the day in the UK, both are average. It's been a while since I've used the technogym equipment but the Matrix equipment I use every week. There's not much in it between the two.

On many of their machines the range of motion lacks smoothness. It often feels bumpy, particularly on the chest press, overhead press, curl, triceps extension...oh wait...

I've only ever used a limited range of Nautilus nitro equipment all smooth machinery, even if old, but I soon maxed out the chest press. Probably wouldn't be able to now though.

I've used some equipment by a company called Zest feels all very smooth and looks high quality. I did like their pullover machine.

When I was in college, as I said in a previous post, I used the Universal multi-gym. What I liked about it was how simple it was to work around the whole machine and get a good workout. And I liked the standing press you don't see that anymore it's always seated.

Life fitness equipment was way ahead of its time, but the negative could sometimes shock you or make it too easy to cheat. Great machines though pity they've all but been phased out. Because of these machines I learned about negative accentuated exercise before I came across hit.

Free weights are now the order of the day but back in the early naughty's at least where I worked out people largely trained on machines, cables and chin/dip stations.


Both the technogym and matrix smith machines are as smooth as silk, as are the pulldowns and cable rows. Both also do lever-style leg presses which are good. There again, the plate loaded technogym chest supported row I found to have a more natural feel the hammer row.

Loved the universal machines, I started training in a gym that had those and these other crackers called pulsestar, they were on belts rather that cables, smooth a silk.

Forgot to mention, love the look of those strive machines, the ones with different settings.
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hit4me

Florida, USA

yes, the old universal machine....I remember walking into the YMCA back in the mid 70's and saw this machine and started working out going from one exercise to the other....that was the start of my love of fitness
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

==Scott==
This is like a duh question, Nautilus! Is there anything else, ha ha
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backtrack

entsminger wrote:
==Scott==
This is like a duh question, Nautilus! Is there anything else, ha ha


You say that but I used some Nautilus Nitro machines and didn't think they were that special in comparison to others.
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hit4me

Florida, USA

Dan_The_man wrote:
entsminger wrote:
==Scott==
This is like a duh question, Nautilus! Is there anything else, ha ha

You say that but I used some Nautilus Nitro machines and didn't think they were that special in comparison to others.


i agree, some of the nitro machines are not that good...and then some are good

i actually prefer the original nautilus machines..double, 1st and 2nd generation

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Lioncourt

I've never used any Nautilus machines older than the Nitro's at a gym I went to once and wasn't impressed by them. The gym also had Cybex and those seemed to be better machines. For upper body I've always been impressed with Hammer Strength. Lower body I haven't ever just been blown away by anything I've used, about the only one that stands out was a Hammer Strength squat machine. A gym I went to did have a plate loaded HS leg extension was original since I always have maxed out the stacks using 2 legs at a time, it had a poor strength curve though.
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HeavyHitter32

I train at home with free weights, Powertec, and a leverage leg press.

Back in my gym days, I used to really like the Hammer Strength back moves - especially the iso row and pulldown. I didn't like their dip or vertical chest press though. Their seated calf raise was good too (although hard to screw that one up).

I also used a really good leg press which I think was made by Paramount. The thing was a beast with a blue seat and frame painted white...best leg press I ever used and really worked the back side of the body well. The seat had a curvature to it as well which was unique for placement and keep you stable (to prevent rounding).

Strive made a really nice biceps curl that was a smooth as anything I've used before.
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Bastion

I think most manufacturers have some good and some not so good designs. I've never used any vintage nautilus, just nitro. I didn't find it any better than cybex or anything else. One of the worst machines is the Hammer incline press, especially the one with the pulldown attached 2 in one. Hammer makes great back machines , the high and low rows and the dy row. Hammer decline press is good. I have a Hammer preacher curl, one of the older ones with the Gary Jones sticker and it's ok, but I've definitely used more comfortable preachers. Flex leverage/ star Trac is fantastic. Nebula is great stuff. Icarian, paramount, polaris, apex, cybex, hoist, all quality stuff with some hit and miss designs. Rogers athletic looks like some nice solid stuff. Perhaps a step up from Hammer?.
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strengthmaster

Michigan, USA

What was formerly Flex, then sold under the Star-Trac name is now owned by Core Health & Fitness. They own Nautilus commercial, Stairmaster, and Star-Trac.
The Star-Trac leverage machines are now sold as Nautilus Leverage.

Scott
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Bastion

strengthmaster wrote:
What was formerly Flex, then sold under the Star-Trac name is now owned by Core Health & Fitness. They own Nautilus commercial, Stairmaster, and Star-Trac.
The Star-Trac leverage machines are now sold as Nautilus Leverage.

Scott


Thanks! , that's great to know. I have 2 original flex leverage pieces that are my favorites. It seems the older more original designs are most popular with most manufacturers. The flex pieces are perfect for a home gym or small space, as they have a small footprint and can be moved easily.
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Crotalus

I'm still pissed my gym as during their incredible remodelings with a whole line of brand new Hammer equipment, got rid of two of my favorite machines. I don't know who made them but remember they were called 'Leverage Row' and 'Leverage Press' .

They were while and plate loading. The Press was almost in a prone position (maybe 25 degree) and you needed very little weight, it was that difficult.

Same with the Row and I LOVED that machine.
It was seated, chest supported and also very difficult where you didn't need many plates. I started my back workout with in top/bottom Zones and killed me ; cut back the resistance needed in my next two back movements considerably.

Obviously few people used them because they were so hard with so little resistance ... both were 'Ego Killers' so these got the vote to be trashed. Wish I knew who the manufacturer was ...
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pharaoh1063

I think I've seen these machines in videos filmed at Bev and Steve's Powerhouse Gym in Syosett, NY and I wondered about them myself.

Start the following video at 2:44.

https://www.youtube.com/...h?v=VfCsChEJY5s

If this is the one, they are made by "Flex Fitness." Beyond that I have no more info. I don't know how badly you want to know about them, but you could call the gym and find out. Google images yields a few results--a white one at that.
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pharaoh1063

Replied before reading strengthmaster's post 3 posts up.
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Brian A Schamber

Texas, USA

I like the SS Systems Leg Press, SS Systems Ventral Torso, ReneX iPOPD, and the MedEx Avenger Leg Press.
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Bastion

pharaoh1063 wrote:
I think I've seen these machines in videos filmed at Bev and Steve's Powerhouse Gym in Syosett, NY and I wondered about them myself.

Start the following video at 2:44.

https://www.youtube.com/...h?v=VfCsChEJY5s

If this is the one, they are made by "Flex Fitness." Beyond that I have no more info. I don't know how badly you want to know about them, but you could call the gym and find out. Google images yields a few results--a white one at that.


Yep, that's a flex leverage pulldown. I think the original model. I believe flex made some of the finest equipment ever. The hammer low row he used before the flex pulldown is a great row as well.
Is this the chest press that you mentioned? . If so, you're correct in that you don't need or should I say, can't use a ton of weight. It is an ego killer.
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Bastion

Flex leverage decline press

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Crotalus

My Mac is so old now it can't even play You Tube videos anymore, LOL ... have to get a new one soon. 12 years old and just now starting to give me problems ... can't complain about that.

I looked at the site and yes, they look like the two I used. I really miss that Low Row , it was a killer with regular reps but I used it in Zones ; top first , bottom second , top and bottom again ... 15 second rest , pulled a plate off and did it again. That really Pre-Exhausted your lats for whatever you planned to do next !

I'd love to try their other machines if they are as effective as this Low Row machine.

I remember Dr. Ken raving about the old Naulilus Leverage Lag Press a long time ago. He liked it so much he said many guys didn't even squat anymore, it was that good .... any coming from Dr Ken, that's saying a lot. I never got the chance to try one .

Thanks for doing the research and ID on these machines .
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g0ld3nuncw

North Carolina, USA

I have 40 Nautilus machines, most 1st and 2nd generation refurbished & converted to cable.

Case Closed.
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Spidercam

g0ld3nuncw wrote:
I have 40 Nautilus machines, most 1st and 2nd generation refurbished & converted to cable.

Case Closed.


The sweetest inroad produced by the original aggressive cams.
The connoisseurs choice.
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g0ld3nuncw

North Carolina, USA

Unbelievably I can't figure out how to start a new thread. I made a You Tube video of my Nautilus Home Gym.

https://www.youtube.com/...X13YjmF8&t=139s
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g0ld3nuncw

North Carolina, USA

Couldn't find out how to start new thread here.

Video of my home gym.

https://www.youtube.com/...X13YjmF8&t=139s
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Bill MacLean

Great gym!

Creating a new thread is not intuitive (at least to me). When you are signed in, click banner that says "Dr Darden's Forum Main" A little button will appear on the right side that says "Post". It doesn't look like a typical button, so just look for the word "Post" on the right of the screen. Clicking on that button will let you make a new thread.

I have always thought the Nautilus compound leg machine was great. The only downside was the friction. When you converted to cable, did that reduce the friction?

You have a lot of great things in your gym. I especially like the multi exercise machine (OME), which is becoming very difficult to find. I have an OME, and lifted an idea from Ryan Hall to make a step extension for it that makes it a great machine for hip-belt squats. I will try to upload a photo in next few days. I am not handy at all, but found a guy through Home Depot who made the step to my specification, and it's great.

Final question: I love dogs, so I liked the shot of him in the video. Does he supervise when you work out?
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