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Crotalus

I don't know if the 'Search' here doesn't work or it's my old computer but I couldn't come up with anything if it's already been discussed.

What do you guys think of Smith Machines ? Do you use them and if so , for what exercises ?

Early in my HIT 'education' I developed a negative view towards them only because most of the HIT gurus I looked up to knocked them, claiming they forced you to move a weight in an un-natural path.

Others from the 'tough guy' forums like Cyber Pump and Garage Gym, where they bragged and argued over who pukes more after their workouts, claimed only a pussy would use them.

Now, many years later with a much more open mind to things, I've used them a few times for squats in the bottom half of the movement after leg extensions and really liked it .

I'm interested to hear what everyone here thinks about them .
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sirloin

I used them for years to preform shoulder width grip benches, and i used the slightly angled HS version for bent over rows. Personally, ill never use them again, the presses caused my a lot of shoulder issues, and i feel theres better rowing movements that can be preformed.
Not knocking the device however, it could well have been my bodytype just wasnt right for it (6'4, long limbs), im not a fan of linear machines, i prefer lever style devices.
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g0ld3nuncw

North Carolina, USA

I like them for incline presses and for front military presses, which I can do while keeping my elbows slightly forward to protect my rotator.

On a side note I can't use the search mode either, no matter what computer I'm on. I used to enjoy looking up old topics using the search until it stopped working a couple years ago. Any advice on how to get the Search on here to work from anyone?
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Lioncourt

I'll use the smith machine if a gym doesn't have any good machines for a chest/shoulder press or squat and don't want to do free weights as a change of pace. Someone should tell those "hardcore" HIT trainers Dorian highly recommended them for squats and overhead pressing.

On the search topic I recommending using Google instead of the sites for an easier time. In Google just put "site:drdarden.com" (without the quotes) before the term you want to search for to only get results for here.
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HDLou

Lioncourt wrote:
I'll use the smith machine if a gym doesn't have any good machines for a chest/shoulder press or squat and don't want to do free weights as a change of pace. Someone should tell those "hardcore" HIT trainers Dorian highly recommended them for squats and overhead pressing.

On the search topic I recommending using Google instead of the sites for an easier time. In Google just put "site:drdarden.com" (without the quotes) before the term you want to search for to only get results for here.


Yates has since changed his opinion of smith machines and no longer recommends them.
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hit4me

Florida, USA

the only time I liked using smith machines was many moons ago when I would perform partials with extreme heavy weight and I had the protection bars

the other times is when I did not have spotters when benching
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g0ld3nuncw

North Carolina, USA


On the search topic I recommending using Google instead of the sites for an easier time. In Google just put "site:drdarden.com" (without the quotes) before the term you want to search for to only get results for here. [/quote]

Good advice, thanks.
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