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Jesse Lee Otis

Does anyone here know if Arthur Jones discussed the use of the Smith machine ?

If not, then I welcome input from any of you.


Jesse Lee Otis
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Lioncourt

It's like any other machine - as useful as you need it to be. What's your specific question about using it?
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Crotalus

After all these years of training I just started to try out Smith machines . I avoided them only because the 'gurus' I followed over the years talked them down.

Just this summer I used them for the first time for Squats in the bottom half of the movement following leg extensions in the top half.

That's all I did with them so far ... but liked it. It felt a little weird at first but so is anything new.

One reason II heard was 'bad' was in a squat it forced you to do them in an unnatural, straight pattern though Johnson said he's used them for years without any issues.
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

Crotalus wrote:
...That's all I did with them so far ... but liked it. It felt a little weird at first but so is anything new.

One reason II heard was 'bad' was in a squat it forced you to do them in an unnatural, straight pattern though Johnson said he's used them for years without any issues.


Just don't get "under" the bar as if you are doing a FW squat. It can tweak your back badly. The best is with feet forward and leaning back into the bar --- almost like a weight wall squat.
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sgb2112

I like em for half squats or this..

https://youtu.be/uT-9Nj65hao
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Jesse Lee Otis

Lioncourt wrote:
It's like any other machine - as useful as you need it to be. What's your specific question about using it?


Sorry; I should have been more specific. I am interested in how effective it is for doing squats. I see that several posters have replied about that. Seems to me that it would be a great way to do squats -- but I would love to know if Arthur ever addressed it in writing.

JLO
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HDLou

How about this version:

https://www.youtube.com/...h?v=ypQm_AsJa2w
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frostyF

Arkansas, USA

Ha!
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sonny153

Jesse, like any other "guided track resistance" you have to conform to the movement of the machine, not your body. If you're going to powerlift then I'd stay away from it but if you're just interested in bodybuilding or muscle building and you feel it works a muscle good then use it. Remember though that using a Smith Machine for squats removes your lower back from a lot of the involvement so be sure to do some lower back work.
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sgb2112

I like how a fat guy guy has not competed in powerlifting for decades(ripptoe) is given a pass for being fat since he is talking about strength, just like the HIT guys.

And Louie Simmons has produced PL champions and NFL monsters to this day, despite looking like a troll.



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entsminger

Virginia, USA

===Scott==
I found a Smith machine sort of interfered with the natural motion of the squat . It sort of kept me in too straight a line which would seem to be better but isn't how I would squat naturally . I think it worked great for partial squats but not deep ones. Sort of like hack squats on a leg press. Safe but restricting , put more emphasis on the quads but not the flutes. The power comes more from the glutes than quads.
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HeavyHitter32

entsminger wrote:
===Scott==
I found a Smith machine sort of interfered with the natural motion of the squat . It sort of kept me in too straight a line which would seem to be better but isn't how I would squat naturally . I think it worked great for partial squats but not deep ones. Sort of like hack squats on a leg press. Safe but restricting , put more emphasis on the quads but not the flutes. The power comes more from the glutes than quads.


Agreed.

Because of lower back issues, I had to switch from barbell squats to Smith and that helped for a while until the loads increased.

Speed up 25+ years later, the only "squat" I do today is the one legged squat on my Powertec leverage machine. It's almost like a lunge really, but doesn't interfere with my natural range of motion and it requires so little weight (thus no disc compression) to be effective and my back is not bothered by it at all. Sometimes I get tired of doing one leg at a time, but then I can just use my leverage leg press when I want.
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Jesse Lee Otis

Thanks to all of you for the info; much appreciated.

Jesse

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