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BennyAnthonyOfKC

Missouri, USA

Yes, this is interesting, this talk given by David Landau about Arthur Jones! :)
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tensionstrength

Check out his interviews on Corporate Warrior too. He gave me a great deal to think about.
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sirloin

Could listen to Dave all day, hes coperate warrior interviews where good too. Still in dam good shape aswell!
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Crotalus

Thanks for the link ! It was great to hear a serious HIT advocate thinking and presenting his ideas outside of the typically restrictive HIT guidelines from 50 years ago.

It was nice to see the highly respected Landau questioning things like rep speed, recovery, volume, etc.

The best thing he said in the whole talk was train as hard as you can but do what works best for yourself.

Actually Jones said the same thing ( " keep what works and throw the rest out " ) , but most seem to have never heard it or completely forgot he said it.

I got so caught up in the whole HIT culture, I forgot that valuable advice for a long time.

Thanks again for posting the link .
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HeavyHitter32

Great video.

Good to see David turn away from so much of the HIT dogma. If you don't want to watch the whole video, I would recommend watching from around the 48 minute mark until the end as he talks about intensity, sets, recovery, rep speed, etc. Very interesting stuff.
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holliswood

I remember when most members of this forum made fun of the 21 Convention.

Your bias is showing, please tuck it back in...

Hollis

P.S.
Try using some common sense and you won't need to chase the Golden Goose.
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sirloin

holliswood wrote:
I remember when most members of this forum made fun of the 21 Convention.

Your bias is showing, please tuck it back in...

Hollis

P.S.
Try using some common sense and you won't need to chase the Golden Goose.


And yet you came here recently asking the people for basic training advice, now your slabbering at them. The fecken cheek of some people.

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entsminger

Virginia, USA

==Scott==
I does seem that for the most part Jones had forged a great life where he could do as he pleased , play with the toys he wanted to play with etc etc and then at some point things didn't go his way.In the end Jones seemed to give up and was down on everything. What was it that turned things sour for him?
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Bastion

I was a HIT nazi for the better part of 20 years. Nothing makes more sense in theory and on paper than HIT/Heavy duty. Yes it works. But like any other training method , the body adapts after a few weeks. At one point I was training once a week or less on a consolidated routine and although I was seeing regular strength gains, I didn't even look like I worked out despite my weekly torture sessions.
Fast forward 4 years. I'm now training 3-4 times a week with a combo of cumulative fatigue/Gvt style along with a few HIT techniques thrown in occasionally such as DC and Pitt force rest pause sets etc. I just finished 10x10 on the chest press with 2 min rest between sets. My mind and body tell me that's alot more sensible and harder on the muscle than a few warm up sets and then a balls out set of 6-10.
HIT is just Another way to train. A different way to skin the cat.
The most important thing I've learned in the past few years of training is that, I think we all put way too much into what these so called experts have to say. This guy says this , and that guy says that. With some sensibility, most of it works if you know what you're doing and follow it up with clean eating habits.
Nothing against Jones or anyone. But lets face the fact that training a few genetic freaks on drugs like the Mentzers ,Casey, Sergio, Boyer, really proves nothing other than they did something they had never done before and saw immediate results. Other than Mentzer, no one else tried to sell HIT as a be all, end all only way.
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Rikus

Bastion, seems like you use a lot of variation. I still use various Darden derivative style training but I only progressed in size with the intensity techniques like 21's, dropsets etc and only for a few workouts where I had to then cycle through something else for a few weeks.

Brian Johnston'S ideas resonated with me with the use of variation. I got a few more ideas from his material and it seems to be keeping the results coming some more.

Adding 1 rep to a straight set each workout didn't produce results.

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entsminger

Virginia, USA

==Scott==
I have to say I?m glad I watched this video of Landau. After having had some rather less than positive interactions with him in the past I didn?t have a very high opinion of him. This video shed some new good light on the fellow that I didn?t know existed. A pleasant surprise!
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Spidercam

Anatomical Direct Resistance To The Body.
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holliswood

Sirloin asking for advice and suggestions and using what is offered are different.

Stop trying to be clever, it doesn't work for you.

Hollis
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holliswood

Let me first say that I like David Landau. I like his blunt style and his commonsense teachings on weight training.

Too many here have ignored the reality of weight training for decades. HIT and 1 (one) set to failure was a simplistic business model created to move clients as quickly as possible from one weight machine to another allowing a gym or personal trainer to maximize the number of clients per hour/day trained. That was and it still is the basis of HIT.

The "true believers" of HIT have ignored scientific fact that multiple sets per body part in the VAST MAJORITY of trainees IS the MOST PRODUCTIVE way to train.

Turpin proved it conclusively. He put to rest most of the "HIT" dogma with his training thread or have most here forgotten the arguments against his training methods?

Hollis
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sirloin

holliswood wrote:
Sirloin asking for advice and suggestions and using what is offered are different.

Stop trying to be clever, it doesn't work for you.

Hollis


If you cant see that asking people for advise then slabbering (trying to be a smart arse) at them after they took the time to help is a dick move, then obviously am dealing with a ignorant prick.
Oh, and as far as being clever is concerned, my IQ is well above average. XOXO
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holliswood

LOL, you're too funny and humble as well

Don't pretend you know my motivation, you don't, and you proved you're an ass not me.



Hollis
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sirloin

holliswood wrote:
LOL, you're too funny and humble as well

Don't pretend you know my motivation, you don't, and you proved you're an ass not me.



Hollis


Its you (a faceless troll) that started with the gub shite, not me. Ill leave the last word to you, given all faceless trolls do is talk and stir shite.

Have a nice day.
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holliswood

Sirloin,

Be a man for once and not a weasel.

Hollis
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hit4me

Florida, USA

i don't know, i didn't really get anything out of his speech....and he hasn't done anything on his webpage in years and he indicated to go to his webpage...however he appears to be in pretty good condition, at least his arms were when he took his jacket off
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

hit4me wrote:
i don't know, i didn't really get anything out of his speech....and he hasn't done anything on his webpage in years and he indicated to go to his webpage...however he appears to be in pretty good condition, at least his arms were when he took his jacket off


==Scott===
He?s always had pretty good arms, at least biceps . I often have wondered if he specialized on them as many do or if they just responded better than other parts of his body? It was nice seeing him get through a whole conversation with out calling some one a $&(&@$$!! Or something , ha ha !
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Brian A Schamber

Texas, USA

Deep Thoughts...

He is a direct link to Arthur Jones from 2000-2007 and the "old ways" of Nautilus Clubs from the late 70's and early 80's. At 61, he has life experience and cares about this "stuff". His delivery may seem harsh AT first, but once you GET him and his encryption, HE makes sense. I do like the use of the word apparatus and gymnasium....Intensity Intensified.
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Bill Sekerak

California, USA

Crotalus wrote:
Thanks for the link ! It was great to hear a serious HIT advocate thinking and presenting his ideas outside of the typically restrictive HIT guidelines from 50 years ago.

It was nice to see the highly respected Landau questioning things like rep speed, recovery, volume, etc.

The best thing he said in the whole talk was train as hard as you can but do what works best for yourself.

Actually Jones said the same thing ( " keep what works and throw the rest out " ) , but most seem to have never heard it or completely forgot he said it.

I got so caught up in the whole HIT culture, I forgot that valuable advice for a long time.

Thanks again for posting the link .


Actually I think that is a quote from Bruce Lee.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

===Scott===
So Landau, I?m sure we?d all enjoy a video or two of you working those arms the way you?ve found works them best!
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

holliswood wrote:
Let me first say that I like David Landau. I like his blunt style and his commonsense teachings on weight training.

Too many here have ignored the reality of weight training for decades. HIT and 1 (one) set to failure was a simplistic business model created to move clients as quickly as possible from one weight machine to another allowing a gym or personal trainer to maximize the number of clients per hour/day trained. That was and it still is the basis of HIT.

The "true believers" of HIT have ignored scientific fact that multiple sets per body part in the VAST MAJORITY of trainees IS the MOST PRODUCTIVE way to train.

Turpin proved it conclusively. He put to rest most of the "HIT" dogma with his training thread or have most here forgotten the arguments against his training methods? Hollis


Not sure why you're going on and on about this. Most of the forum made this leap years ago.
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