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ATP 4 Vitality

I've mentioned several times on this Web site that men can, in fact, do well on 1200 calories per day . . . if they reduce their activity level and rest more. Those two factors are key.

Then, you have to be sure to fight hunger with lots of cold water and apply three-times per week strength training. You'll be surprised at how fast the fat drops.

Ellington
10/10/2007

Since your recommendations on very low calorie diets for fat loss have now been proven, are there any recommendations coming to amend your above statements? Are these very low calorie diets so stressful that reducing the volume of exercise becomes necessary?

Marc
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Ellington Darden

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
I've mentioned several times on this Web site that men can, in fact, do well on 1200 calories per day . . . if they reduce their activity level and rest more. Those two factors are key.

Then, you have to be sure to fight hunger with lots of cold water and apply three-times per week strength training. You'll be surprised at how fast the fat drops.

Ellington
10/10/2007

Since your recommendations on very low calorie diets for fat loss have now been proven, are there any recommendations coming to amend your above statements? Are these very low calorie diets so stressful that reducing the volume of exercise becomes necessary?

Marc


Yes, I now only train dieters twice a week. And sometimes even less. However, I'm not sure I'd throw in the word "stressful." There's a better word. What is it?

Ellington

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ATP 4 Vitality

Ellington Darden wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
I've mentioned several times on this Web site that men can, in fact, do well on 1200 calories per day . . . if they reduce their activity level and rest more. Those two factors are key.

Then, you have to be sure to fight hunger with lots of cold water and apply three-times per week strength training. You'll be surprised at how fast the fat drops.

Ellington
10/10/2007

Since your recommendations on very low calorie diets for fat loss have now been proven, are there any recommendations coming to amend your above statements? Are these very low calorie diets so stressful that reducing the volume of exercise becomes necessary?

Marc

Yes, I now only train dieters twice a week. And sometimes even less. However, I'm not sure I'd throw in the word "stressful." There's a better word. What is it?

Ellington



Let me think on that word!
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ATP 4 Vitality

Ellington Darden wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
I've mentioned several times on this Web site that men can, in fact, do well on 1200 calories per day . . . if they reduce their activity level and rest more. Those two factors are key.

Then, you have to be sure to fight hunger with lots of cold water and apply three-times per week strength training. You'll be surprised at how fast the fat drops.

Ellington
10/10/2007

Since your recommendations on very low calorie diets for fat loss have now been proven, are there any recommendations coming to amend your above statements? Are these very low calorie diets so stressful that reducing the volume of exercise becomes necessary?

Marc

Yes, I now only train dieters twice a week. And sometimes even less. However, I'm not sure I'd throw in the word "stressful." There's a better word. What is it?

Ellington



From Dr. Dardens - - Once More For Fat Loss

This Dieting Stuff Is Hard

Many of you guys don't want to dwell on the absolute truth about dieting. It's not fun to be systematically deprived of foods you are accustomed to eating. Sure, you can practice a few tricks to make the process easier. But, within 7 to 10 days, all dieting gets hard. Furthermore, it gets progressively more difficult over 30, 40, and 50 years of age.
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g0ld3nuncw

North Carolina, USA

Impactful?
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Dan_The_man

Dieting is hard, but it is easier if you eat the right foods to begin with and deny yourself access to foods that will ruin it for you.

I'm really into French's mustard, because it's not too strong it lends its self to pretty much anything and its very low in calories.
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hit4me

Florida, USA

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Ellington Darden wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
I've mentioned several times on this Web site that men can, in fact, do well on 1200 calories per day . . . if they reduce their activity level and rest more. Those two factors are key.

Then, you have to be sure to fight hunger with lots of cold water and apply three-times per week strength training. You'll be surprised at how fast the fat drops.

Ellington
10/10/2007

Since your recommendations on very low calorie diets for fat loss have now been proven, are there any recommendations coming to amend your above statements? Are these very low calorie diets so stressful that reducing the volume of exercise becomes necessary?

Marc

Yes, I now only train dieters twice a week. And sometimes even less. However, I'm not sure I'd throw in the word "stressful." There's a better word. What is it?

Ellington



From Dr. Dardens - - Once More For Fat Loss

This Dieting Stuff Is Hard

Many of you guys don't want to dwell on the absolute truth about dieting. It's not fun to be systematically deprived of foods you are accustomed to eating. Sure, you can practice a few tricks to make the process easier. But, within 7 to 10 days, all dieting gets hard. Furthermore, it gets progressively more difficult over 30, 40, and 50 years of age.


at 54, I am actually finding it to be easier to reduce my caloric intake.....it took awhile to learn how to change my eating habits and I am learning that as we age, we just don't need that much food anymore
?...great post by the way
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Fatso

g0ld3nuncw wrote:
Impactful?



Yes!
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ATP 4 Vitality

hit4me wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Ellington Darden wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
I've mentioned several times on this Web site that men can, in fact, do well on 1200 calories per day . . . if they reduce their activity level and rest more. Those two factors are key.

Then, you have to be sure to fight hunger with lots of cold water and apply three-times per week strength training. You'll be surprised at how fast the fat drops.

Ellington
10/10/2007

Since your recommendations on very low calorie diets for fat loss have now been proven, are there any recommendations coming to amend your above statements? Are these very low calorie diets so stressful that reducing the volume of exercise becomes necessary?

Marc

Yes, I now only train dieters twice a week. And sometimes even less. However, I'm not sure I'd throw in the word "stressful." There's a better word. What is it?

Ellington



From Dr. Dardens - - Once More For Fat Loss

This Dieting Stuff Is Hard

Many of you guys don't want to dwell on the absolute truth about dieting. It's not fun to be systematically deprived of foods you are accustomed to eating. Sure, you can practice a few tricks to make the process easier. But, within 7 to 10 days, all dieting gets hard. Furthermore, it gets progressively more difficult over 30, 40, and 50 years of age.

at 54, I am actually finding it to be easier to reduce my caloric intake.....it took awhile to learn how to change my eating habits and I am learning that as we age, we just don't need that much food anymore
?...great post by the way


1st time someone here has wrote nice things about my posts in a very long time.
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Ellington Darden

Instead of stressful, I definitely like the word: impactful

Ellington
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Resultsbased

I like the word dreadful!

Assuming someone could actually stick with 1200 Cal/daily for any length of time (and I am very doubtful) a macronutrient ratio of 50/25/25 would result in roughly 150g CARB, 75g PRO, 33g FAT.

It all looks great on paper, but reality steps in and hunger will prevail.

Ancel Keys was able to induce starvation in subjects at close to 1600 calories per day.

Realize that during the MN starvation study, these men were under constant supervision and many developed serious psychological problems, a few became obsessed with food and binged...several washed out of the program.

Too low for most people, physically and psychologically.
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ATP 4 Vitality

Very low calorie diet myth-buster

https://www.nejm.org/...6/NEJMsa1208051

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ATP 4 Vitality

Myth-buster 2

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...pubmed/25459211
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