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johnbhoy

Armed Forces - Europe

Just read online that Franco Columba has passed.
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Gainz

Very sad news. A true legend.

Result of drowning at sea apparently.
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hit4me

Florida, USA

news reports says he drowned off the coast of Italy....sad news in the world of legendary bodybuilders
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johnbhoy

Armed Forces - Europe

Arnold Schwarzenegger posted a beautiful tribute to him on Twitter.
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HeavyHitter32

Very sad to hear and he always seemed like a nice humble guy.
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Crotalus

One of my top favorites from the Golden Age.

Always admired how strong he was for a bodybuilder. Damn, this sucks ....
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tompuderbaugh

So sorry to hear of the passing of Franco.

I met him several times back in the day.

He was always humble and soft spoken, but he loved to laugh and cut-up.

Easy to see how he and Arnold bonded so strongly. He always allowed Arnold to be the "Alpha Male" in the room, yet he could use his smarts and humor to "give just as good as he got" with his best friend. Arnold always respected that and I believe that is why they remained close for decades.

RIP to one of the truly good ones!
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Equity

Yes very sad indeed.

R.I.P. Franco.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Drowned while swimming... I wonder if his heart was giving out and he was unable to remain afloat or something.
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sirloin

Heart attack while swimming, well, giving his drug use in his younger years, 78 was a decent innings.
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epdavis7

Always admired him. One of the first workouts I did was a program of his that combined powerlifting with Olympic lifting with a few choice bodybuilding exercises thrown in. Tragic death RIP
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Donnie Hunt

I think it may have very well been the first issue of Flex Magazine that I ever bought. Some time in '91 or 92'. There was the semi side and front pic of Franco deadlifting a, what appears to be, a fully loaded bar. That to me said power! Muscularity and power! I also recall an article, probably also in Flex around 92'. Franco critiquing Dorian Yates! of all people, saying there should be no open space in the the crook of the arms during a front lat spread or a back view lat spread? Somebody else might remember this comment better than me? And when viewing pics of Franco doing a lat spread there was no space if I recall. I find this type of banter to be good, healthy competition. Franco was an inspiration for me starting back in those early 90's
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

sirloin wrote:
Heart attack while swimming, well, giving his drug use in his younger years, 78 was a decent innings.


==Scott==
I'm just guessing but I don't think he was the prolific drug user like so many others.I would like to think that in his younger years he was as strong as a bull from good genetics and working out hard. I'm guessing that only in those years when Weider pushed him to compete for Olympia was he on drugs and that was a relatively short time compared to the other guys around him. Pound for pound I can't think of anyone stronger than him.
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epdavis7

entsminger wrote:
==Scott==
I would like to think that in his younger years he was as strong as a bull from good genetics and working out hard. quote]

I liked Franco, but you would have to go back to the early 1950s (or maybe even earlier) to find a natural highly competitive bodybuilder. The whole scene was built on a big lie...steroids and unfortunately a lot of people bought into it. If people choose to use steroids, thats their business, but quit trying to sell an illusion and pushing training protocols they dont use. Ive seen some fairly impressive naturals, but they don't hold a candle to steroid users.

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entsminger

Virginia, USA

epdavis7 wrote:
entsminger wrote:
==Scott==
I would like to think that in his younger years he was as strong as a bull from good genetics and working out hard. quote]

I liked Franco, but you would have to go back to the early 1950s (or maybe even earlier) to find a natural highly competitive bodybuilder. The whole scene was built on a big lie...steroids and unfortunately a lot of people bought into it. If people choose to use steroids, thats their business, but quit trying to sell an illusion and pushing training protocols they dont use. Ive seen some fairly impressive naturals, but they don't hold a candle to steroid users.



==Scott==
Once again I could be wrong but I didn't see Franco as a competitive bodybuilder in the days he was hanging around with Arnold at the beach etc. I don't think he was competing in bodybuilding when he was pictured doing that giant deadlift. Yea he was in the magazines but not competing on stage.I don't know that he was on steroids at that time? Only much later was it evident that he was on the juice when he suddenly got much bigger.
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sirloin

entsminger wrote:
sirloin wrote:
Heart attack while swimming, well, giving his drug use in his younger years, 78 was a decent innings.

==Scott==
I'm just guessing but I don't think he was the prolific drug user like so many others.I would like to think that in his younger years he was as strong as a bull from good genetics and working out hard. I'm guessing that only in those years when Weider pushed him to compete for Olympia was he on drugs and that was a relatively short time compared to the other guys around him. Pound for pound I can't think of anyone stronger than him.


I repectfully disagree. He won the 81 olympic with gyno, a sign of heavy dbol useage. Also, the drugs where more pure back then, they didnt require as much. As for strength, some of the strongest men in the world at the time used Anavar (var). They liked it because it increased strength greatly, but didnt make you massive, it also dried bodybuilders out for shows. Problem is such drugs seriously fuck with hdl cholesterol and the endothelial layer. Every cycle can cause irreversible damage.

I dont doubt Franco was a strong guy, but id bet my bottom dollar drug use in his earlier years played a role in his death.
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Average Al

entsminger wrote:
epdavis7 wrote:
entsminger wrote:
==Scott==
I would like to think that in his younger years he was as strong as a bull from good genetics and working out hard. quote]

I liked Franco, but you would have to go back to the early 1950s (or maybe even earlier) to find a natural highly competitive bodybuilder. The whole scene was built on a big lie...steroids and unfortunately a lot of people bought into it. If people choose to use steroids, thats their business, but quit trying to sell an illusion and pushing training protocols they dont use. Ive seen some fairly impressive naturals, but they don't hold a candle to steroid users.



==Scott==
Once again I could be wrong but I didn't see Franco as a competitive bodybuilder in the days he was hanging around with Arnold at the beach etc. I don't think he was competing in bodybuilding when he was pictured doing that giant deadlift. Yea he was in the magazines but not competing on stage.I don't know that he was on steroids at that time? Only much later was it evident that he was on the juice when he suddenly got much bigger.


I assume that his buddy Arnold probably hooked him up with a supplier at some point. If he suddenly got much bigger, that is probably a good clue as to when he started using.

In the early days, steroid use probably didn't have all the negative associations that it has today. Google tells me that steroids didn't actually become a class III controlled drug until 1990. Those bodybuilders still wouldn't have wanted to talk about it much because it destroyed the illusion that hard work, Weider programs, and Weider supplements were the path to glory.

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sirloin

epdavis7 wrote:
entsminger wrote:
==Scott==
I would like to think that in his younger years he was as strong as a bull from good genetics and working out hard. quote]

I liked Franco, but you would have to go back to the early 1950s (or maybe even earlier) to find a natural highly competitive bodybuilder. The whole scene was built on a big lie...steroids and unfortunately a lot of people bought into it. If people choose to use steroids, thats their business, but quit trying to sell an illusion and pushing training protocols they dont use. Ive seen some fairly impressive naturals, but they don't hold a candle to steroid users.



Very true. For a reality check i read articles on natty or not.
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sirloin

epdavis7 wrote:
entsminger wrote:
==Scott==
I would like to think that in his younger years he was as strong as a bull from good genetics and working out hard. quote]

I liked Franco, but you would have to go back to the early 1950s (or maybe even earlier) to find a natural highly competitive bodybuilder. The whole scene was built on a big lie...steroids and unfortunately a lot of people bought into it. If people choose to use steroids, thats their business, but quit trying to sell an illusion and pushing training protocols they dont use. Ive seen some fairly impressive naturals, but they don't hold a candle to steroid users.



http://nattyornot.com/...r-romanticized/

Sums it up perfectly. People are so naive.
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1958

Texas, USA

Scott,
There are many photos out there that show that Franco was competing in bodybuilding at the same time he was boxing and powerlifting.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

sirloin wrote:
entsminger wrote:
sirloin wrote:
Heart attack while swimming, well, giving his drug use in his younger years, 78 was a decent innings.

==Scott==
I'm just guessing but I don't think he was the prolific drug user like so many others.I would like to think that in his younger years he was as strong as a bull from good genetics and working out hard. I'm guessing that only in those years when Weider pushed him to compete for Olympia was he on drugs and that was a relatively short time compared to the other guys around him. Pound for pound I can't think of anyone stronger than him.

I repectfully disagree. He won the 81 olympic with gyno, a sign of heavy dbol useage. Also, the drugs where more pure back then, they didnt require as much. As for strength, some of the strongest men in the world at the time used Anavar (var). They liked it because it increased strength greatly, but didnt make you massive, it also dried bodybuilders out for shows. Problem is such drugs seriously fuck with hdl cholesterol and the endothelial layer. Every cycle can cause irreversible damage.

I dont doubt Franco was a strong guy, but id bet my bottom dollar drug use in his earlier years played a role in his death.


==Scott==
Yes but the 81 Olympia was long after those early years on the beach with Arnold and yes even if he was on the juice in just those Olympia years they can cause damage even for short time use.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

I assume that his buddy Arnold probably hooked him up with a supplier at some point. If he suddenly got much bigger, that is probably a good clue as to when he started using.

==Scott==
More than likely Franco took some dinobol or whatever early on but probably in small doses. I can't remember what years it was but I remember sudddenly seeing Franco rise above his usual size and start piling on the size big time. Possibly Arnold or some other fool just had to see Franco win Olympia so they started pushing mega doses of the juice on him like the guys of today and he ballooned up in size. Even though he was bigger he didn't even deserve to be in the front line up much less win it but since Weider or Arnold wanted it to happen anything was possible.
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epdavis7

Eugene Sandow is a good example of a natural. Back when bodybuilding (and perhaps Powerlifting) was actually a big thing (70's, 80's) they all used to say it was the Weider supplements and training protocols that got them where they were. EVERYBODY denied using steroids. Most articles were ghost written by others. They had to keep Muscle and Fiction entertaining to us sheep (me included). A lot of us believed if we just trained more and did more sets and tried harder we could get there too. Total sham. Later on folks admitted they were juicing to the gills and that the bodybuilding supplements were a waste of money at best and bad for your health at worst. Natty or not is a good website to check out.
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sirloin

entsminger wrote:
sirloin wrote:
entsminger wrote:
sirloin wrote:
Heart attack while swimming, well, giving his drug use in his younger years, 78 was a decent innings.

==Scott==
I'm just guessing but I don't think he was the prolific drug user like so many others.I would like to think that in his younger years he was as strong as a bull from good genetics and working out hard. I'm guessing that only in those years when Weider pushed him to compete for Olympia was he on drugs and that was a relatively short time compared to the other guys around him. Pound for pound I can't think of anyone stronger than him.

I repectfully disagree. He won the 81 olympic with gyno, a sign of heavy dbol useage. Also, the drugs where more pure back then, they didnt require as much. As for strength, some of the strongest men in the world at the time used Anavar (var). They liked it because it increased strength greatly, but didnt make you massive, it also dried bodybuilders out for shows. Problem is such drugs seriously fuck with hdl cholesterol and the endothelial layer. Every cycle can cause irreversible damage.

I dont doubt Franco was a strong guy, but id bet my bottom dollar drug use in his earlier years played a role in his death.


==Scott==
Yes but the 81 Olympia was long after those early years on the beach with Arnold and yes even if he was on the juice in just those Olympia years they can cause damage even for short time use.


Sorry, just to clarify, when I mentioned his "younger years", I was referring to his competitive years.
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sirloin

entsminger wrote:
I assume that his buddy Arnold probably hooked him up with a supplier at some point. If he suddenly got much bigger, that is probably a good clue as to when he started using.

==Scott==
More than likely Franco took some dinobol or whatever early on but probably in small doses. I can't remember what years it was but I remember sudddenly seeing Franco rise above his usual size and start piling on the size big time. Possibly Arnold or some other fool just had to see Franco win Olympia so they started pushing mega doses of the juice on him like the guys of today and he ballooned up in size. Even though he was bigger he didn't even deserve to be in the front line up much less win it but since Weider or Arnold wanted it to happen anything was possible.


Drugs then where pharmaceutical grade, you didnt require as much to get the same effect as high doses today. But according to quite a few of the guys from that era, they used everything that was going (as Viator mentions in the article I posted).
You should check out the metabolic doctor on youtube, hes treated thousands of steriod users whom now have health issues, including those from the golden era.
Id say in the off season back then, they would have just "cruised", but prep would have been everything and then some.

With regards to who's responsible, its the individual that makes a consensus decision. I recently was being "coaxed" into using, I did my research, and came to the consultation there are no completely safe drugs, even milder steriods like anavar can potentially do serious harm.
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