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While recently reading about neck exercise, I was amazed as to how Arthur Jones was ahead of his time. In the 1970s he wrote these articles, developed 3 outstanding neck machines, not to mention research and protocols to maximize neck training effects.

Nowadays, Rogers Athletics and their 5 - way Neck machine lead the way with neck protocol, information, and neck machines.

Ken Hutchins promotes neck isometrics. I agree with his use of neck isometrics. These isometrics are safe, load efficiently with resistance bands, and allow proper ventilation. I mainly use neck flexion and neck extension with heavy resistance bands. I have reservations that any machine could better neck isometrics with resistance bands for overall results.

Strengthening the many neck muscles, which possess complex and somewhat redundant function, leads to increased overall body proprioception, not to mention safety in car whiplash, concussions, and making one look much younger.



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ptcrusader

Marc Excellent. I know many football players who built stable necks with bands. I agree that it is hard for machines to improve on the results that bands provide in the cervical musculature.

For those without bands, do you feel that similar benefits can be gained by using the hands on the forehead and back of the head in an isometric fashion?
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epdavis7

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
While recently reading about neck exercise, I was amazed as to how advanced Arthur Jones/Nautilus was ahead of his time. In the 1970s he wrote these articles, developed 3 outstanding neck machines, not to mention research and protocols to maximize neck training effects.

http://www.arthurjonesexercise...

http://www.arthurjonesexercise...

Nowadays, Rogers Athletics and their 5 - way Neck machine lead the way with neck protocol, information, and neck machines.

Ken Hutchins promotes neck isometrics. I agree with his use of neck isometrics. These isometrics are safe, load efficiently with resistance bands, and allow proper ventilation. I mainly use neck flexion and neck extension with heavy resistance bands. I have reservations that any machine could better neck isometrics with resistance bands for overall results.

Strengthening the many neck muscles, which possess complex and somewhat redundant function, leads to increased overall body proprioception, not to mention safety in car whiplash, concussions, and making one look much younger.





Agreed! Always been a proponent of direct neck training.
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ATP 4 Vitality

A jaw-dropping experience!
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ATP 4 Vitality

ptcrusader wrote:
Marc Excellent. I know many football players who built stable necks with bands. I agree that it is hard for machines to improve on the results that bands provide in the cervical musculature.

For those without bands, do you feel that similar benefits can be gained by using the hands on the forehead and back of the head in an isometric fashion?


I tried both. Resistance Bands for me are clearly superior!
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BorisV

Maryland, USA

Since I starting using 2ST 4-way neck and 2nd gen neck & shoulder machines (less than 1/2 year), I noticed a significant improvement in both strength and size of neck muscles and reduction in frequency and severity of pain in trap/shoulder/scapula area (which I commonly have as a result of office job and piano playing). I have been doing some neck work before (neck bridges, hand push/isometrics), but good machines and strict focus on muscle work (vs. hoisting the heaviest weight possible) are irreplaceable, at least, in my case.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

Problems with rubber bands... inconsistent tension and inability to keep tension consisten from workout to workout (shifting the body a bit forward or back (for example) alters the tension, thus making it different every workout.

A person looking for an optimal workout will adjust for these things, but teaching it and coaching it with clients is near impossible, as opposed to an actual neck machine with 'x' pounds for 'y' reps.

I also deal with a number of elderly and osteo clients and I would never trust a rubber band for either safety or productivity. But kudos to those who can implement those tools effectively.
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Tridentine

anyone have success with the nautilus rotary neck?
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ATP 4 Vitality

Brian Johnston wrote:
Problems with rubber bands... inconsistent tension and inability to keep tension consisten from workout to workout (shifting the body a bit forward or back (for example) alters the tension, thus making it different every workout.

A person looking for an optimal workout will adjust for these things, but teaching it and coaching it with clients is near impossible, as opposed to an actual neck machine with 'x' pounds for 'y' reps.

I also deal with a number of elderly and osteo clients and I would never trust a rubber band for either safety or productivity. But kudos to those who can implement those tools effectively.


Thanks Brian,

I concur!

But;
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ATP 4 Vitality

But;

A few years back, I had a fall which resulted in a fractured right hand. Surgery was required to set 4 fractures supported with 2 iron pins which helped hold the broken hand bones in place.

During rehabilitation at physical therapy many resistance bands and many a elastic apparatus were used.
They proved safe and effective for rehab purposes. I had an Ivanko SupperGripper which the hand surgeon allowed me to exercise with during subsequent rehab. The elastic and resistance apparatuses were subsequently very easy after Ivanko usage.
I also got PT for tennis elbow which consisted of an elastic Theraband Flexbar, among various heat and cold treatments. Safe and effective treatment once again.

I personally trained 2 stroke victims (impaired use of one limb) regain strength and function with a flexbar. Great results again.

If I had one exercise machine to purchase in the future, the Rogers Athletic 5-way neck machine would be foremost on my list. Second would be the ROgers Athletic gripper machine. I have the poor-mans version - Ivanko SuperGripper.

I do standing neck isometrics for 3 minutes, front extensions along with rear flexions. I may experiment with lateral flexions and slight rotary movements. A standing position is superior for overall proprioception, not to mention easy entry/exit, and resistance band tension adjustments. I wish someone would invent/make a face/head pad to enable comfortable utilization of resistance bands for neck isometrics.

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StuKE

I have trained my neck on and off over the decades. Recently (last few months) been working it once to three times a week.
Way back I tore the muscles 9n both sides at the back of my neck, the morning after a workout, just gently stretching as I woke up. Anyway, long time ago.
These days I usually do a couple of work sets for the back of neck with a neck harness, then front with head over edge of a bench and weights on forehead. Next may be side of neck with harness and pulley and then some isometrics, different times and different positions.
Bwlieve it or not, it is the isos that sometimes make me feel I have gone too far.

I can't see any machine being better than the exercises I do, it is perfectly easy to work the neck with no equipment too. I tend to do it to avoid looking like Scooby hahaha, but really to prevent whiplash and have a good, strong neck in general.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

ATP... I never said there wasn't more than one way to skin a cat... I just prefer certain knives over others.
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ATP 4 Vitality

Brian Johnston wrote:
ATP... I never said there wasn't more than one way to skin a cat... I just prefer certain knives over others.


True!

I am curious of your thoughts on conditioning the muscles of the neck!

Any thoughts?
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Tridentine

rotary neck machine helps.
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ATP 4 Vitality

Women love showing their necks

Neck ISOs with R B

https://m.youtube.com/...h?v=b1Q9DmcA-Nc
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ATP 4 Vitality

The neck matters in aesthetics

https://m.youtube.com/...8&v=Ohy7yGBnJY4
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Women love neck training results
No more turkey necks

https://m.youtube.com/...h?v=zHwImcFDwaY


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dipsrule

Pennsylvania, USA

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
The neck matters in aesthetics

https://m.youtube.com/...8&v=Ohy7yGBnJY4




Photoshop and a bad on at that
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Brian Johnston wrote:
ATP... I never said there wasn't more than one way to skin a cat... I just prefer certain knives over others.

True!

I am curious of your thoughts on conditioning the muscles of the neck!

Any thoughts?


Direct and specific exercise. Not sure what else you mean... a specific Rx? Depends on the person, any injuries, what they're trying to achieve, etc.
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ATP 4 Vitality

Brian Johnston wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Brian Johnston wrote:
ATP... I never said there wasn't more than one way to skin a cat... I just prefer certain knives over others.

True!

I am curious of your thoughts on conditioning the muscles of the neck!

Any thoughts?

Direct and specific exercise. Not sure what else you mean... a specific Rx? Depends on the person, any injuries, what they're trying to achieve, etc.


Thanks!

Do you train your neck?

Your neck routine?
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ATP 4 Vitality

dipsrule wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
The neck matters in aesthetics




Photoshop and a bad on at that


Could be, but point made!
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1958

Texas, USA

marcph,
Show us your 17 inch neck!
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ATP 4 Vitality

1958 wrote:
marcph,
Show us your 17 inch neck!


Us?

Who appointed a pencil-necked moron like yourself to speak for us?

Go back to your cave and eat your meat boi
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

I train my neck once a week. A modest warm-up and then one set each for all four directions... usually a load that allows about 20 reps (I find going heavier produces a strain on the cervical spine I'd rather not have... as one ages the disc spacing reduces, and this can result in the facets rubbing/touching and even fracturing under heavy strain).
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ATP 4 Vitality

Brian Johnston wrote:
I train my neck once a week. A modest warm-up and then one set each for all four directions... usually a load that allows about 20 reps (I find going heavier produces a strain on the cervical spine I'd rather not have... as one ages the disc spacing reduces, and this can result in the facets rubbing/touching and even fracturing under heavy strain).


Brian,

Thanks
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