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ATP 4 Vitality

Any ideas for a wrist roller?

The Rogers Athletic gripper is the ultimate gripper machine. Negative-Only training will make the grip inhumanly strong. Ivanko Supergripper is good but is a runner-up to Rogers Athletic gripper.

But, the question remains, the rotary motion of wrist rolling is best trained by ?

https://m.youtube.com/...h?v=rvU90ksZZ9o



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sirloin

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Any ideas for a wrist roller?

The Rogers Athletic gripper is the ultimate gripper machine. Negative-Only training will make the grip inhumanly strong. Ivanko Supergripper is good but is a runner-up to Rogers Athletic gripper.

But, the question remains, the rotary motion of wrist rolling is best trained by ?

https://m.youtube.com/...h?v=rvU90ksZZ9o





When i do train forearms (which is rare as mine are very strong), i use one arm cable wrist curl, employing self help negatives. When i arm wrestled several years ago, i liked this static method.
https://youtu.be/R9235-tIBkA
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epdavis7

I?ve always been into grip training and have a host of tools, but my go to exercises are using a ?monster bar? with the Fat Gripz Extreme to do Wrist flexion and extension as well as using the Iron Woody Super Gripper and doing static holds and negatives at the end of the set. I also use it to do some dynamic thumb work. I also use the Fatgripz Extreme and hang from a chin bar for time. I find that specific exercise builds the kind of grip strength AND endurance necessary for doing well in obstacle course races like Tough Mudder and Spartan. I believe Wrist rollers can be a fantastic exercise, I just don?t have one readily available, but could probably build one if I put my mind to it.


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DuzHIT

3 inch pvc pipe 24 inches or so. Drill a hole in the middle and run a rope through the hole and tie a knot . Tie a caribiner to the other end of the rope. Tie whatever weights to the rope using the caribiner to secure.

You can hold the weight in front of you to roll up and down, but the shoulders will fatigue before the forearms. You can stand on a couple cinder blocks and keep your arms down, but the movement range of the weights is reduced.

I put an olympic bar on a squat rack as high as I can, then slide the pvc over the end of the bar. I can the roll up ansd down 5-6 feet each way and the only muscles fatigued are forearms.

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ATP 4 Vitality

What DeSimone Says:

https://m.youtube.com/...h?v=xKgDClJBSps


Perhaps Dr Darden can give us a story of Casey Viators forearms!


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Ellington Darden

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
What DeSimone Says:

https://m.youtube.com/...h?v=xKgDClJBSps


Perhaps Dr Darden can give us a story of Casey Viators forearms!




DeSimone has his biomechanics on target.

I never saw Viator do much in the way of forearm work . . . and he had the best forearms I've ever seen. But what Casey had going for him was extremely long forearm muscles and short tendons.

Ellington


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ATP 4 Vitality

The Brachioradialis is king of forearm musculature! Hammer time?

Doug & Bill pretty much agree on training forearms.

https://m.youtube.com/...h?v=QX_Pkrj-agE
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ATP 4 Vitality

Due to having Tennis Elbow in both arms, I have been well initiated into the scourge of the 21st century, repetitive injuries damage.
The TheraBand flex-bar proved to be a superior treatment in my case. I have several acquaintances who have also fallen victim to this scourge. Some have chosen surgery and physical therapy as treatments.

This makes me wary of full-range motion wrist curls and reverse wrist curls (shearing forces). Perhaps wrist rollers offer similar disadvantages. Pinch grips and other such ilk place heavy stress on muscles involved in precision motions, perhaps causing additional wrist ailments.
The flex-bar finishing isometric position is a neutral position, not excessive flexion or extension. The flex-bar is not a power tool, but rather a therapy tool. This is why I asked about wrist rollers. DeSimone may well have the best answer. I hooked a revolving stirrup handle to the Nautilus OME and - viola - a DeSimone Nautilus gripper with a negative cam and revolving handle.
Initial test sorties are good with a whole big weight stack to go. Even Grant would have enough weight. Well maybe not Grant!


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ATP 4 Vitality

It has been postulated that grip strength can serve as a window to enable viewing into your personal recovery ability.

Overtraining could possibly lead to a decreased immune response which could be critically important today in a fight against viruses.

Therefore, a Ivanko Super Gripper could be utilized to get data on actual real time grip strength. Heart rate is another place to acquire data. How one feels although subjective can be important also for one to gauge their level of personal recovery.

From my experience grip strength can readily be over trained. I will be observing these data points for further illumination on my personal recovery. My recovery is surely going to get tested during my time as a first line healthcare provider.

The single revolving stirrup handle hooked to my Nautilus OME machine is a serious grip improvement tool when performing the DeSimone hand grip exercise.
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Brian Johnston

Ontario, CAN

I made one from a standard dumbbell bar (12 inches long or so). I then placed two dumbbell collars in the middle with a space about 2 inches between them. I then took a piece of FLAT nylon material (not sure what to call it, but it's not a rope, but plenty strong... maybe 1-inch in diameter and 15 feet long). The material is attached to the bar by way of a screw and washer (hole drilled in the center of the bar).

Consequently, wrist rolling this flat material (with dumbbell collars keeping it in place) rolls up nicely and very centred... you're not frigging with a rope rolling up and twisting in various directions around the bar.

Now, you may be wondering why the nylon material is so long... around 15 feet. I don't hold out the roller with dumbbell plates attached... I find that fatiguing on the shoulders. Rather, I attached the end of the roller's nylon (which has a carabiner attached to it) to my pulley machine (set about waist height or a bit higher). My arms are stretched out straight and I roll up whatever weight is on the pulley machine. In this manner I can kill my forearms while feeling nothing in the shoulders.

Clear as mud?

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buddy 51

Didn't Arthur Jones write a Muscular Development magazine on a Super Forearm Developer that featured a special home made twist pulley device that used heavy chains to provide resistance to do a special twisting exercises with a handle. Never made it but the entire routine worked the whole arm brutally.
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buddy 51

I would love to see somebody document their results doing the exact arm routine that Arthur Jones created with the exact equipment. Kind of like a Colorado Experiment done online
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ATP 4 Vitality

The Brachioradialis seems easily overtrained. Negative only, heavy weights and such place undue stress on a structure designed for other works.
DeSimone has some great ideas for training the forearms.
I think one super hard set rotated around many different forearm exercises might help with overtraining. High repetitions, and/or long isometric holds could also ease stress on wrist structures.

No one wants problems with the wrists due to ignorance or lack of experience.
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ATP 4 Vitality

Zona Plus isometric hand grip device has FDA approval to reduce blood pressure by about 10 percent.

Isometric exercise in general can reduce blood pressure. This flies in the face of conventional wisdom as isometric cause peak blood pressure readings.

https://m.youtube.com/...h?v=8Kw4olWsYzs

Lots to learn.


Arthur Jones would be in the forefront of research on exercise if still alive.
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oldbutsteady

AJ would only be interested if he could have made money with the information.

OBS
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Average Al


Arthur Jones would be in the forefront of research on exercise if still alive.


Maybe not....

According to his bio on wikipedia, he sold Medex in 1996, and then "retired". He died in 2007.

I don't think he did much research during the last decade of his life.
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dipsrule

Pennsylvania, USA

From My First Half-Century in the Iron Game #70

Having published several hundred articles and four books, a total of more than a million words, on the subject of
exercise during the last thirty years, I am now finished: this is the last I will ever write on the subject. As the Jews say
. . . ?Enough is enough, already.?
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ATP 4 Vitality

oldbutsteady wrote:
AJ would only be interested if he could have made money with the information.

OBS


Let us see!

Arthur Jones designs required enormous time and energy

Arthur Jones writings came from an outpouring of his soul

He donated millions for exercise research

Nothing wrong with making a buck

but

there was much more than the Love of money from Arthur Jones

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ATP 4 Vitality

Average Al wrote:

Arthur Jones would be in the forefront of research on exercise if still alive.


Maybe not....

According to his bio on wikipedia, he sold Medex in 1996, and then "retired". He died in 2007.

I don't think he did much research during the last decade of his life.


The last decade of life is not generally - alive -

Arthur Jones is The Godfather of modern exercise
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Average Al

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:

The last decade of life is not generally - alive -



What a depressing thought!
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ATP 4 Vitality

Average Al wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:

The last decade of life is not generally - alive -



What a depressing thought!


Death awaits all
Life is precious
Do your best
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epdavis7

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Average Al wrote:
ATP 4 Vitality wrote:

The last decade of life is not generally - alive -



What a depressing thought!

Death awaits all
Life is precious
Do your best


Truth! Its all we can do.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

ATP 4 Vitality wrote:
Average Al wrote:

Arthur Jones would be in the forefront of research on exercise if still alive.


Maybe not....

According to his bio on wikipedia, he sold Medex in 1996, and then "retired". He died in 2007.

I don't think he did much research during the last decade of his life.

The last decade of life is not generally - alive -

Arthur Jones is The Godfather of modern exercise


== Scott===
I know the picture of Sergio on a pullover won?t go with this post but I think it?s funny to think that Sergio probably never used a Nautilus except for promotional pictures.
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buddy 51

I met Sergio years ago in the Bodybuilder Sportshop on the Northside of Chicago. He was visionally shocking wearing a loud floral print shirt with high-waisted pants that flowed from a tiny waist into giant thighs. Every finger had a ring. Seeing him in person was as shocking as when the first time I saw a Lamborghini car or a Stealth Bomber plane on the ground up close in person. ALL THREE WERE STUNNING !!! When I saw him it was after his visit with Arthur Jones in Florida. When I asked him about Nautilus machines , I was disappointed that he said they ok and that training with conventional equipment was better.
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Bastion

Since this is a thread about Wrist Roller's. Here is my GD 1-1/2" wrist roller. I bought it through Amazon and absolutely love it. Not only does it build strong forearms, it sands away callouses as well.
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